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18th club, whose next?

mongoose

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The Bears offer a branding that might attract away fans in NSW, thats it really. Perth do not need them for any supposed junior pathways, they can link up with any 2nd tier club on the east coast for that, just like the Storm have been doing. There's 15 (i think) QLD cup teams.
 

Centy Coast

Juniors
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Yes, and Melbourne do it without being owned by a sydney club. They use feeder clubs
You’re arguing my point.
You forget Melbourne entered the NRL with unlimited backing $$$ from News Ltd and off of the warm corpses of the Perth Reds and Hunter Mariner (player wise).
You cannot compare the Melbourne Storms debut season in 1988 with any current new club.
Perth Reds Players: Rodney Howe, Robbie Kearns, Matt Geyer, John Wilshere, Paul Bell, Wayne Evans, Tristan Brady-Smith,
Hunter Mariners Players: Brett Kimmorley, Scott Hill, Robbie Ross, Paul Marquet, John Carlaw, Richard Swain,
They also signed Test players Glenn Lazarus, Stephen Kearney, Tawera Nikau, Marcus Bai, Matt Rua, Ben Roarty and Bears player Danny Williams.
 
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Dragonwest

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No difference whether, png comes in or not, they've already been named as the potential 19th, I'm betting that they do do nothing, no upgrades no nothing, maybe a coe
Pert
Please Perth needs another plan with pathways, their S.G.Ball was woeful, guaranteed two points for every East Coast team. You need to mix these WA kids with the East Coast kids or they will learn nothing and play at the same standard without improving their skills. Thats why WA, VIC, SA and NT play their own State titles and not with the NSW or QLD States.
NSW field Public, Catholic and Independent teams and QLD field QLD Maroon and QLD White.
I remember standing with our SG Ball players after coping a hiding from Canberra one year over there. There HM squad was training in front of us straight after our game as they had a bye. The majority of our squad would have been physically bigger than the HM side in front of us at the same age due to the overall heritage of the squad, but we were worlds behind the SG Ball team we just played. None of our players had been exposed to the years of training their HM and SG Ball had received.

There were two major issues with Pirates:
1) Depth - We were loosing talent to the Force & NSW/QLD RL programs before they made SG Ball. Talent pool would doubled instantly with a NRL announcement.
2) Development - You can't pick a squad from club land in September and expect them to be ready to play SG Ball in the New Year. The players were 2 years short of the required physical & skill high performance development required to play in that competition. Again this can be fixed with an NRL announcement and a CoE.

I don't think stealing East Coast kids is actually required for our Junior Development teams to become competitive.
 

Centy Coast

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Pert

I remember standing with our SG Ball players after coping a hiding from Canberra one year over there. There HM squad was training in front of us straight after our game as they had a bye. The majority of our squad would have been physically bigger than the HM side in front of us at the same age due to the overall heritage of the squad, but we were worlds behind the SG Ball team we just played. None of our players had been exposed to the years of training their HM and SG Ball had received.

There were two major issues with Pirates:
1) Depth - We were loosing talent to the Force & NSW/QLD RL programs before they made SG Ball. Talent pool would doubled instantly with a NRL announcement.
2) Development - You can't pick a squad from club land in September and expect them to be ready to play SG Ball in the New Year. The players were 2 years short of the required physical & skill high performance development required to play in that competition. Again this can be fixed with an NRL announcement and a CoE.

I don't think stealing East Coast kids is actually required for our Junior Development teams to become competitive.
You don’t have to steal players from the East Coast but mix them in, the W.A. players skills will increase being around better players.
 

Pippen94

First Grade
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The Bears offer a branding that might attract away fans in NSW, thats it really. Perth do not need them for any supposed junior pathways, they can link up with any 2nd tier club on the east coast for that, just like the Storm have been doing. There's 15 (i think) QLD cup teams.

Bears will be perth
 

Bukowski

Bench
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You forget Melbourne entered the NRL with unlimited backing $$$ from News Ltd and off of the warm corpses of the Perth Reds and Hunter Mariner (player wise).
You cannot compare the Melbourne Storms debut season in 1988 with any current new club.
Perth Reds Players: Rodney Howe, Robbie Kearns, Matt Geyer, John Wilshere,
Hunter Mariners Players: Brett Kimmorley, Scott Hill, Robbie Ross, Paul Marquet,
They also signed Test players Glenn Lazarus, Stephen Kearney, Tawera Nikau, Marcus Bai and Bears player Danny Williams.
That ensured a good start but they kept is going without being owned by an interstate club. How do you reckon Melbourne would have gone if Wests were given the license?
 

AlwaysGreen

Immortal
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Its fair to say, using the past few days onLunatics Unlimited as an example, that this Bears/Perth thing won't work.

Perth needs their own team, when that is tba.

Bears need to get over it. You were never a force and never will be. Give it up.
 

Centy Coast

Juniors
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That ensured a good start but they kept is going without being owned by an interstate club. How do you reckon Melbourne would have gone if Wests were given the license?
That makes no sense ?, Melbourne were News Ltd’s new pet project when the Super League War ended, John Ribot was at the helm.
Melbourne made the semi finals and were an instant success, despite their on field success and all star roster, off the field the Storm ran at heavy a loss for years and needed to be propped up year after year by News Ltd.
 

Centy Coast

Juniors
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Has he? As I and others have said, V'landys was answering questions from a journalist. He never said that the Bears and Perth are a done deal, he said the bears coming back in any shape or form couldn't be ruled out.
Actually it was Peter V’Landys who made the statement in the press.
Read back through the thread and you’ll see I gave a heads up the night before that an announcement for expansion bids in late June was coming in 24 hours.
 

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