18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

If you don’t want to talk afl stop bringing it up lol

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Given they are islands PNG aside they will never be able to run sides individually so it is a way around that

Big call, Fiji already has a 1 million population and a pretty handy GDP/capita.
They can also expect a lot of attention, (read investment and otherwise) from big western nations for the foreseeable future as we strive to keep them in our orbit and out of China`s.
Solomon Islands, resource rich and large population another long term prospect for the same reasons.

 

[Centy Coast]

Perth Bears for 2026, what Uncle Nick wants, Uncle Nick gets.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Perth Bears for 2026, what Uncle Nick wants, Uncle Nick gets.

He`ll certainly be moving in the circles and regularly talking to the people who make these decisions. So anything said by him will be a genuine insight into what the thinking is at the NRL, the broadcasters and people and companies interested in investing or investing further in the game.

 

[Wb1234]

He`ll certainly be moving in the circles and regularly talking to the people who make these decisions. So anything said by him will be a genuine insight into what the thinking is at the NRL, the broadcasters and people and companies interested in investing or investing further in the game.

Reality is if Nick wants this enough you only need a few other clubs to agree even if the crap clubs complain nobody cares what they think

if we go 3 extra clubs one has to be Perth that’s a must

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Reality is if Nick wants this enough you only need a few other clubs to agree even if the crap clubs complain nobody cares what they think

At the end of the day you`d like to think though that`d he be arguing from a point of strength of argument. An argument refined by his consultations with the aforementioned stakeholders. We don`t think that Steggles don`t want their brand seen on a larger stage for example..
One thing though we have to admit though, he certainly wouldn`t be spruiking the above points if he thought the Roosters would be adversely affected.

 

[MugaB]

it is a few years away. A couple of more seasons to assess the RU version.

The 2 go hand in hand though, More players in NRL systems the better to get the pacific nations better.

That is without counting the improvement to the local Leagues.

Given they are islands PNG aside they will never be able to run sides individually so it is a way around that

The West Indies Cricket team, players from around the Islands, thats their angle

 

[blue bags]

Perth, Adelaide, another Kiwi side etc

Melbourne 2 before
NZ 2
Melbourne has everything going for it

 

[blue bags]

I think there are a couple of factors here:

1. I would seriously look at population trends. Where is the population going and plan your business around it

Population Projections, Australia, 2022 (base) - 2071

Population projections (based on assumptions of fertility, mortality and migration) for Australia, states and territories and capital cities

www.abs.gov.au

2. People are in agreement with the idea that you can have an extra Brisbane side but we really should be at the point now that adding more teams in Queensland and New South Wales is a secondary concern.

3. Further to the point above, there is a limit to the amount of teams you can have. Therefore, with that in mind, why would you not look at new markets rather than existing ones?

As in Melbourne

 

[Centy Coast]

He`ll certainly be moving in the circles and regularly talking to the people who make these decisions. So anything said by him will be a genuine insight into what the thinking is at the NRL, the broadcasters and people and companies interested in investing or investing further in the game.

It got my attention the other day when 20 clubs was first reported that V’Landys quoted Politis various times in the article.
I was thinking, who really runs this competition ?, I think we all know.

 

[Wb1234]

It got my attention the other day when 20 clubs was first reported that V’Landys quoted Politis various times in the article.
I was thinking, who really runs this competition ?, I think we all know.

They are the cythera mafia

don’t mess with the Greeks

 

[Iamback]

The West Indies Cricket team, players from around the Islands, thats their angle

Yep and for the same reasons, No single island can support test cricket alone

 

[Iamback]

Big call, Fiji already has a 1 million population and a pretty handy GDP/capita.
They can also expect a lot of attention, (read investment and otherwise) from big western nations for the foreseeable future as we strive to keep them in our orbit and out of China`s.
Solomon Islands, resource rich and large population another long term prospect for the same reasons.

Yes but is 300 islands and mountains. Making development hard.

You could certainly run a satellite academy there with a few home games, general though it needs to be primarly based in a capital city of Australia or NZ

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Yes but is 300 islands and mountains. Making development hard.

You could certainly run a satellite academy there with a few home games, general though it needs to be primarly based in a capital city of Australia or NZ

Just like other developing nations we will see an increased migration to the major cities as these countries develop and breakaway from their agricultural roots. How they look now and how they will look in 50 years will be two very different things.

 

[xe_kilroy]

My favorite sports are American Football, Rugby League, Soccer. In no order really. They all have their special qualities, differences, exciting/interesting aspects.

I'm an American by birth/upbringing, but I can honestly say there's no more exciting action in all of sports than a chain-passing RL long-range Try. A great soccer goal is up there but it's usually a moment. Gridiron isn't as spectacular, but what it has is a lot of momentum shifts and drama.

I can't watch AFL, Rugby Union is ok, but not as good as RL.

Downsides...

American Football...no chain passing, blocking-centric.

Soccer....too much dead play with players passing the ball around.

RL....too much one-out, no blocking, too much caution with the ball in your own half of the field, whereas in Gridiron they often go for the big play no matter where on the field they are.

It's one area of RL i have rule ideas that could possibly help in that regard.

I remember years ago suggesting to friends that RL could use the kicking game like Gridiron uses the forward pass, to add a second dimension...and lo and behold years later we started seeing that ...players just kicking the ball across the field to an open Winger (kind of like a QB throwing a forward pass to a WR) or grubbing the ball on early tackles etc. Whereas older days it was far more cautious play.

Dunno exactly what rule, but something maybe along the lines of when you have the ball in your own 40 you can't lose the ball from a knock-on or something to try to urge teams to fling the ball about more.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Whereas older days it was far more cautious play.

Your "older days" obviously don`t go back very far mate. It wasn`t always thus. There was a time in the 70`s and 80`s where players would try the chip and chase from anywhere on the field, the Poms particularly loved them. Offloading in traffic was also the norm as ref`s weren`t so hung up on calling every dropped ball a knock-on.
No, it was when coaches started to realise that you can`t win without the ball that we started going down the path of conservatism and playing for position. Not helped by scrums becoming less of a contest as well.
It`s a funny thing but I can remember as a child watching St. George and thinking who`s going to receive the ball from the kick-off, even back then my child`s mind knew that you can`t score if you don`t have the ball. Of course, the coaches have taken it to a whole different level.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Your "older days" obviously don`t go back very far mate. It wasn`t always thus. There was a time in the 70`s and 80`s where players would try the chip and chase from anywhere on the field, the Poms particularly loved them. Offloading in traffic was also the norm as ref`s weren`t so hung up on calling every dropped ball a knock-on.
No, it was when coaches started to realise that you can`t win without the ball that we started going down the path of conservatism and playing for position. Not helped by scrums becoming less of a contest as well.
It`s a funny thing but I can remember as a child watching St. George and thinking who`s going to receive the ball from the kick-off, even back then my child`s mind knew that you can`t score if you don`t have the ball. Of course, the coaches have taken it to a whole different level.

You are very right about that too....older days there was a lot more offloads, chip and chases, and also weird but cool set moves like the rolling scrum or whatever from the Eels 70s, or the Gibson Eels 80s wall or whatever. Wish there was more of that. Also used to play forcings back in the 70s.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

My favorite sports are American Football, Rugby League, Soccer. In no order really. They all have their special qualities, differences, exciting/interesting aspects.

I'm an American by birth/upbringing, but I can honestly say there's no more exciting action in all of sports than a chain-passing RL long-range Try. A great soccer goal is up there but it's usually a moment. Gridiron isn't as spectacular, but what it has is a lot of momentum shifts and drama.

I can't watch AFL, Rugby Union is ok, but not as good as RL.

Downsides...

American Football...no chain passing, blocking-centric.

Soccer....too much dead play with players passing the ball around.

RL....too much one-out, no blocking, too much caution with the ball in your own half of the field, whereas in Gridiron they often go for the big play no matter where on the field they are.

It's one area of RL i have rule ideas that could possibly help in that regard.

I remember years ago suggesting to friends that RL could use the kicking game like Gridiron uses the forward pass, to add a second dimension...and lo and behold years later we started seeing that ...players just kicking the ball across the field to an open Winger (kind of like a QB throwing a forward pass to a WR) or grubbing the ball on early tackles etc. Whereas older days it was far more cautious play.

Dunno exactly what rule, but something maybe along the lines of when you have the ball in your own 40 you can't lose the ball from a knock-on or something to try to urge teams to fling the ball about more.

Very good post mate, interesting to hear your takes on the different sports strengths and weaknesses.
With regard your last sentence I`m hoping the fatigue factor and the rise of the more explosive smaller men we are going to see a lot more attacking play. Something which does seem to be playing out in the first three rounds this year. Long may it continue because as you say there is little more exciting than chain passing, broken field play and the sight of players haring down field.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

@blue bags give it a rest mate, it`s a bit silly `liking` every single post.

 

[xe_kilroy]

Should start a thread on this, rules ideas to improve the game, rather than in this thread. Each sport is its own thing, so its not about copying ideas from other sports, but finding ways in the existing game.

One rule i would change today....no restart of tackle count when a player charges down the ball. Big defensive plays should be rewarded too not punished.

But for promoting attacking play in ones own half....i have to think deep on it, dont want to upset the balance of play, got to reward defenses who force a mistake, etc. Doesnt have to be a drastic idea, could be something subtle one hasbt thought about till someone else chipped in with during a debate etc.