18th club, whose next?

[Gobsmacked]

Just spitballing here but maybe if you could get the top 50 kumuls in every age group from u15’s to u21’s into a program eating the best foods and training in a professional environment it could add a couple of inches to your average kumul?

Height is usually stunted throughout development for lots of reasons like lack of nutrition or disease/ sickness but it's probably genetic. there's a whopping 9 inches of height between the average Papuan and a nrl player.
Even the players who make it aren't tall.

 

[Centy Coast]

There's a lot of players in PNG but the reality is as a people their physiques are small.
The percentage of people in png who are 6 foot or taller is minuscule.
So the NRL level of talent isn't great.

It's a massive misconception that the NRL aren't tapping their talent. Of the top of my head there was 4 PNG guys who a train and trial with the Dolphins.. none made the cut.

This is 100% my issue with a PNG or Pasifika side.

 

[Brian potter]

Height is usually stunted throughout development for lots of reasons like lack of nutrition or disease/ sickness but it's probably genetic. there's a whopping 9 inches of height between the average Papuan and a nrl player.
Even the players who make it aren't tall.

Yeah, I hear you.

there’s a couple of highly touted young kumuls in fullback morea morea and loose forward cruise ten but they are around 5’6-5’7 which is absolutely tiny in todays game especially in the forwards with the giant Polynesian players.

 

[MugaB]

Qu’est ce que c’est

Realisant ton espoir Mugab?

Talking heads song,
stace, stace, stace johns
jeez i don't know how to fnk spell it

 

[LimeRick]

So in reality it’s more like:

NRL - Sydney 90%, Melbourne 10%, Brisbane 90%, Auckland, Gold Coast 90%, Newcastle, Canberra 90%, Wollongong, Townsville - plus Port Moresby, Sunshine Coast, Central Coast and Cairns - so dominant in 10 to 12 cities

AFL - Sydney 10%, Melbourne 90%, Brisbane 10%, Perth, Adelaide, Gold Coast 10%, Canberra 10%, Geelong - plus Hobart - dominant in 5 cities

Canberra is a RL stronghold

I think people are overly optimistic of NRL's position in Canberra. NRL would be 60/40 ahead at best.

AFL has more amateur teams in the ACT than league. If you included union in the conversation, they've got more teams than league or AFL. If you included all three contact codes for main support, none of them would have an absolute majority. Probably 45% at best.

The Raiders are definitely the biggest team in town (Super Rugby being a train wreck helps), but the NRL shouldn't take Canberra for granted.

 

[Vee]

Not true, before the trolls hijacked the place we had many reasonable conversations about the pros and cons of the possible next bid locations.

Lucky for us the mods will be all over them, things should pick up shortly.

 

[Pneuma]

Lucky for us the mods will be all over them, things should pick up shortly.

So let me guess. Perth Red hasn’t completely detailed threads with monotonous hysterical anti V’landys rants? You must live in a special world.

 

[Gobsmacked]

If you're realistic about Perth = troll.

 

[Wb1234]

Height is usually stunted throughout development for lots of reasons like lack of nutrition or disease/ sickness but it's probably genetic. there's a whopping 9 inches of height between the average Papuan and a nrl player.
Even the players who make it aren't tall.

They beat gb in a test match a few years ago

 

[titoelcolombiano]

what good is beating them in ratings if they get more TV money as PR has alluded to 7 million times lol

The light bulb may finally go off to hire some decent broadcast deal negotiators

 

[Perth Red]

If you're realistic about Perth = troll.

if you base the NRL potential of perth in 2028 on Reds crowds during the SL war 25 years ago = troll

 

[Perth Red]

Nrl grant 15 million
Federal govt grant 15 million

club revenue 30 million.

For starters the NRL grant is $17mill plus per club
secondly PNG arent making NRL more attractive for Australian sponsors or tv so that $17mill is a net loss for the NRL and would need to be largely covered by the Aus govt as well. Thirdly paying travel and accommodation costs for a side that has to travel every week and for away teams to travel and stay in PNG with security etc adds yet more cost to the exercise. Then the sporadic and ltd nature of flights between Sydney and Port Moresby meaning more time spent there or chartering flights. $15mill doesn't come close.

 

[mongoose]

If you're realistic about Perth = troll.

saying League has no chance in Perth is not being honest, it's just speculation and not based on any compelling evidence. Your reasons are that Perth already failed during Super League war, which was over 25 years ago now...You don't take into account that Perth has doubled in population since then. You also seem to think people can't follow more than 1 code at a time and that every single person in Perth is a rusted on AFL fan... Perth has its challenges for sure but if you don't think League can be successful there then you can't have much faith in the product....

 

[Wb1234]

O

For starters the NRL grant is $17mill plus per club
secondly PNG arent making NRL more attractive for Australian sponsors or tv so that $17mill is a net loss for the NRL and would need to be largely covered by the Aus govt as well. Thirdly paying travel and accommodation costs for a side that has to travel every week and for away teams to travel and stay in PNG with security etc adds yet more cost to the exercise. Then the sporadic and ltd nature of flights between Sydney and Port Moresby meaning more time spent there or chartering flights. $15mill doesn't come close.

Ok

nrl grant 17 million
Federal govt grant 15
Total 32 million

thanks for correcting me

 

[Perth Red]

O

Ok

nrl grant 17 million
Federal govt grant 15
Total 32 million

thanks for correcting me

haha thats your take away? All Ive done is show that a PNG side will cost the NRL a lot more money than the Aus govt is likely to pay. But sure if we've got $20mil a year forever to invest in PNG lets go for it.

 

[Wb1234]

haha thats your take away? All Ive done is show that a PNG side will cost the NRL a lot more money than the Aus govt is likely to pay. But sure if we've got $20mil a year forever to invest in PNG lets go for it.

For a fan of a Perth nrl team using the cost of travel against any other expansion team isn’t the wisest thing to do

 

[Perth Red]

For a fan of a Perth nrl team using the cost of travel against any other expansion team isn’t the wisest thing to do

Why? We arent talking about the 8 flights a day and 3 airlines you can choose to get to and from Perth and Sydney/Brisbane. Getting to Port Moresby for most teams will be arduous and expensive. Cost wise they are about the same, but number and flight availability times are very different. Then factor in the team wont be in PNG so the NRl will be paying for two teams to travel there for 12 games a year. Its not a deal breaker but in the overall discussion about how much will an NRL team in PNG cost the NRl, and ergo how much would the govt need to pay, its relevant.

 

[Perth Red]

Can someone cut and paste please?

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fnrl%2Fnrl-expansion-warriors-owner-pushes-back-against-second-new-zealand-team%2Fnews-story%2F166d750e1a6b49b6ccd69c99235d7118&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&BT=sport

 

[Wb1234]

Why? We arent talking about the 8 flights a day and 3 airlines you can choose to get to and from Perth and Sydney/Brisbane. Getting to Port Moresby for most teams will be arduous and expensive. Cost wise they are about the same, but number and flight availability times are very different. Then factor in the team wont be in PNG so the NRl will be paying for two teams to travel there for 12 games a year. Its not a deal breaker but in the overall discussion about how much will an NRL team in PNG cost the NRl, and ergo how much would the govt need to pay, its relevant.

If travel costs are an issue then no Perth team

think before you post

 

[Iamback]

Love to know the strategy Perth, the home of FIFO, are going to use to entice players and staff from the east coast to uproot their families to come and live 4000 kilometres away from their support base.

And potentially to be neighbours to a crusty old pelican called AFL Red.

This is the concern with Perth in the comp