18th club, whose next?

[Wb1234]

13.4k

So half the phins

 

[Perth Red]

So half the phins

no, just over half. 56% to be exact.
30 years ago in a city half the size it is now at a horrible stadium in the glare of a brewing war.

Dolphins have done great off the field, as we expected any second Brisbane side would. memberships tick, crowds tick, sponsors tick. They've performed decent enough on the field as well and signed some talent for next year.

All positive expansion and should give the NRl confidence to keep growing. Lets hope the dolphins can keep it up now once the first season boost settles.

 

[Wb1234]

no, just over half. 56% to be exact.
30 years ago in a city half the size it is now at a horrible stadium in the glare of a brewing war.

Dolphins have done great off the field, as we expected any second Brisbane side would. memberships tick, crowds tick, sponsors tick. They've performed decent enough on the field as well and signed some talent for next year.

All positive expansion and should give the NRl confidence to keep growing. Lets hope the dolphins can keep it up now once the first season boost settles.

Your ability to polish a turd is unrivalled

dolphins crowds going to drop because titans did

but don’t judge Perth on half their crowds cause they are different

 

[Perth Red]

Your ability to polish a turd is unrivalled

dolphins crowds going to drop because titans did

but don’t judge Perth on half their crowds cause they are different

Never said they would, only they could.
Your inability to add context to any conversation is equally impressive!

 

[Wb1234]

Never said they would, only they could.
Your inability to add context to any conversation is equally impressive!

Just treat any nrl bid how you treat Perth

then we can have a good discussion

 

[Perth Red]

Just treat any nrl bid how you treat Perth

then we can have a good discussion

I give my opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of all the possible expansion options, I champion one out of self interest (and becasue I think its a strong outcome for rugby league in Australia) and have no shame in doing that.

PNG- flat no
NZ2 - yes if someone comes forward to back it properly
Adelaide - maybe with a lot of work
Perth - no brainer
South Brisbane - eventually but not a priority
Melbourne2 - lol at Vlandys stupidity

 

[Vee]

PNG- flat no
NZ2 - yes if someone comes forward to back it properly
Adelaide - maybe with a lot of work
Perth - no brainer
South Brisbane - eventually but not a priority
Melbourne2 - lol at Vlandys stupidity

Agree

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Perth Red - no brainer

 

[Wb1234]

I give my opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of all the possible expansion options, I champion one out of self interest (and becasue I think its a strong outcome for rugby league in Australia) and have no shame in doing that.

PNG- flat no
NZ2 - yes if someone comes forward to back it properly
Adelaide - maybe with a lot of work
Perth - no brainer
South Brisbane - eventually but not a priority
Melbourne2 - lol at Vlandys stupidity

We all have our favourites here

you seem to get carried away with your bias

Perth will have many problems with its bid which you gloss over

Perth is a long term project which will yield a decent sized club. Maybe after 20 years they would be as strong as the dolphins or easts tigers would be from day one

that’s the point

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Merge Souths, St George and Cronulla to form a new club, the Botany Bay Badgers
Then we can add Perf, NZ2 and Brisbane 3

 

[Perth Red]

Perth is a long term project which will yield a decent sized club. Maybe after 20 years they would be as strong as the dolphins or easts tigers would be from day one

that’s the point

In a new market. not one that is already well serviced for NRL. That's the real point. Growth not just consolidation. Thats why Id have Perth, NZ2 (not Auckland) and Adelaide. All markets to grow the game with new audiences.

 

[blue bags]

Do Perth

And storm. Raiders. Knights. Steelers
Rams. Mariners. Northern Eagles. Cowboy's
All manufactured made up club's

 

[blue bags]

Last clubs admitted to NRL 1st year avg's

Warriors 26.4k
Dolphins 24k
Cowboys 21.6k
Titans 21.5k
Crushers 21.4k
Knights 20.6k
Broncos 16.1k
Adelaide 15.3k
Perth 13.4k
Melbourne 12.7k
Gold Coast 5.5k
Hunter 5.4k

Northern Eagles ? Steelers ?

 

[Wb1234]

In a new market. not one that is already well serviced for NRL. That's the real point. Growth not just consolidation. Thats why Id have Perth, NZ2 (not Auckland) and Adelaide. All markets to grow the game with new audiences.

Long term projects vs clubs with an immediate payoff

lucky for you the dolphins have been the success they have been which has made the arlc more open to take risk

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Northern Eagles ? Steelers ?

Northern Eagles 13019 (2002)
Illawarra Steelers 8222 (1982)

the Eagles Average declined to 9331 in 2002

The Steelers attendances stayed similar for the rest of the 80s then increased to over 13k in 1992 before dropping back under 10k by the time they merged with St George

and if we’re including mergers:

Wests Tigers 12124
St George-Illawarra Dragons 13259

 

[MugaB]

In a new market. not one that is already well serviced for NRL. That's the real point. Growth not just consolidation. Thats why Id have Perth, NZ2 (not Auckland) and Adelaide. All markets to grow the game with new audiences.

By that metric we didn't need the dolphins or titans coz broncos already service SEQ, you're think dots on a map, rather than where a team will flourish or be capable to grow and be competitive, otherwise we might as well add Singapore and Qatar if your looking to boost those metrics
Real growth is a new "club" that can grow its own footprint on its own with its own participation, and can rival the remainder of the comps clubs, otherwise why bother, if we need to feed it we'll just have another GWS in the NRL

 

[MugaB]

I give my opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of all the possible expansion options, I champion one out of self interest (and becasue I think its a strong outcome for rugby league in Australia) and have no shame in doing that.

PNG- flat no
NZ2 - yes if someone comes forward to back it properly
Adelaide - maybe with a lot of work
Perth - no brainer
South Brisbane - eventually but not a priority
Melbourne2 - lol at Vlandys stupidity

Png flat no? Even though their's is the most far ahead furthest bid that has started to build its acedemic programs.
Nz2 doesnt exist, yet you say yes, now your just adding dots on a map.
Adelaide ditto.
Perth strong chance, with infrastructure, but not a no brainer as there is no quality reserve grade talent there, that and its distance will make it harder to attract marquee or just even average talent.
South Brisbane, or SEQ probably wont have anymore bids accepted as they just accepted the dolphins and want to see that prosper, not cut into the market, while in its infancy.
Melbourne 2 could happen if they are willing to invest in that bid, but they won't and it will tank as the crushers did but itll be via the storm this time , not newsltd bronx

 

[blue bags]

Png flat no? Even though there's is the most far ahead furthest bid that has started to build its acedemic programs.
Nz2 doesnt exist, yet you say yes, now your just adding dots on a map.
Adelaide ditto.
Perth strong chance, with infrastructure, but not a no brainer as there is no quality reserve grade talent there, that and its distance will make it harder to attract marquee or just even average talent.
South Brisbane, or SEQ probably wont anymore bids accepted as they just accepted the dolphins and want to see that prosper, not cut into the market, while in its infancy.
Melbourne 2 could happen if they are willing to invest in that bid, but they won't and it will tank as the crushers did via the storm

That leaves Penrith 2nd franchise
North Penrith Bear's
Mountain Bear's
Juniors in abundance
Massive growth areas
New stadium

 

[blue bags]

I give my opinion on the strengths and weaknesses of all the possible expansion options, I champion one out of self interest (and becasue I think its a strong outcome for rugby league in Australia) and have no shame in doing that.

PNG- flat no
NZ2 - yes if someone comes forward to back it properly
Adelaide - maybe with a lot of work
Perth - no brainer
South Brisbane - eventually but not a priority
Melbourne2 - lol at Vlandys stupidity

Central coast
2nd Penrith
2nd Melbourne
2nd Newcastle
So many options

 

[Perth Red]

Northern Eagles ? Steelers ?

Steered away from mergers as not really ‘new’ clubs. Steelers e entered before the others, just looked at the most recents.