18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

When I have time I'll track down some of ur posts. In mean time you should just come clean. You know what you said

Yes I do know what I said, as my post from 2019 shows.

 

[Perth Red]

If this is the plan: that they expand to a big market in Australia, then expand to an area that has potential to increase the talent pool, then it‘s brilliant. Based on the article, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and that it might be their idea.

NZ 3 might be an option in ten years or so, if they really go hard at NZ 2 and make inroads.

They need to really help both NZ 2 and the Warriors poach some Union talent to make this work.

I’m not buying this, build it and they’ll jump ship. How many first grade union players have moved to the warriors in the last 5 years from nz clubs?

 

[Wb1234]

I’m not buying this, build it and they’ll jump ship. How many first grade union players have moved to the warriors in the last 5 years from nz clubs?

One third of nrl players are kiwis or islanders. This is about giving more juniors from these backgrounds a chance to play league

nrl shouldn’t be throwing around a million a year for an all black they aren’t worth that as league players

 

[Perth Red]

One third of nrl players are kiwis or islanders. This is about giving more juniors from these backgrounds a chance to play league

nrl shouldn’t be throwing around a million a year for an all black they aren’t worth that as league players

Those pathways already exist Though. And most of the Australian kids are heritage, not jnrs out of nz based systems. Abdo seemed to be suggesting that from day one the nz2 club would be signing established union players. It bs. Be interesting to know why he really feels nz2 are best option.

 

[Pippen94]

Those pathways already exist Though. And most of the Australian kids are heritage, not jnrs out of nz based systems. Abdo seemed to be suggesting that from day one the nz2 club would be signing established union players. It bs. Be interesting to know why he really feels nz2 are best option.

Next team will be nz2.

 

[Diesel]

NZ2 will be the kick up the arse the Warriors need. It’ll also attack Union in NZ. Not only will it target Union players, and give them more exposure and opportunities in NZ & Australia, it’ll also attract sponsorship away from semi-professional provincial teams and cause more financial stress to the NZRU.
The NRL can pay young emerging players more than rugby can. If this team clicks, much like the Crusaders have and the Warriors continue to improve, it’ll give Union an all mighty shake.

 

[The Great Dane]

I’m not buying this, build it and they’ll jump ship. How many first grade union players have moved to the warriors in the last 5 years from nz clubs?

The goal wouldn't/shouldn't be to sign first grade union players though, it should be to sign up as much of their best junior talent as possible.

 

[Colk]

The goal wouldn't/shouldn't be to sign first grade union players though, it should be to sign up as much of their best junior talent as possible.

Why shouldn’t you do both? If you want to make the biggest dent as possible you would do both

 

[Perth Red]

The goal wouldn't/shouldn't be to sign first grade union players though, it should be to sign up as much of their best junior talent as possible.

and how’s that working out for the warriors?

 

[siv]

Not only that but those state bodies premier competitions

Dont know why people keep pulling out this irelevant line of thought

2nd tier is the old second division not reserve grade

In NSW that transformed into Metro Cup then Jim Bean Cup and today the RM Cup

When you take NRL players out of NSW Cup for covid, injury or suspension its exactly what you have anyway. And all of those non NRL clubs came from Metro/RM Cup bar the Bears

Its a easy evolution back to merged NSW/RM Cup

 

[siv]

The goal wouldn't/shouldn't be to sign first grade union players though, it should be to sign up as much of their best junior talent as possible.

Then as well as national RG we should bring back NYC

 

[Perth Red]

Dont know why people keep pulling out this irelevant line of thought

2nd tier is the old second division not reserve grade

In NSW that transformed into Metro Cup then Jim Bean Cup and today the RM Cup

When you take NRL players out of NSW Cup for covid, injury or suspension its exactly what you have anyway. And all of those non NRL clubs came from Metro/RM Cup bar the Bears

Its a easy evolution back to merged NSW/RM Cup

Is it really reserve grade though? How many qlnd cup and nsw cup players are not contracted to nrl clubs?

 

[Diesel]

and how’s that working out for the warriors?

Most of the kiwi warriors players have Union experience. Pathways were put in recently to help transition kids into the warriors set up but then a little thing called covid struck.

 

[The Great Dane]

Why shouldn’t you do both? If you want to make the biggest dent as possible you would do both

Because it's significantly more expensive per-player to poach pros than juniors, it's also less effective on average (the teens seems to be the most effective age to convert players), and it's not realistic to expect large movement of pros from RU to RL when there's more money and more opportunities in RU than RL will be able to compete with for a long time.

Sure the NRL may be able to snag the odd guy who wants to play RL for whatever personal reasons, but for the most part if a RU player is after money than there's more on offer in France and Japan than the NRL. So for the most part all the NRL will be left with is the offcuts and those that they pay massive overs for, and for the cost of each of those players they could poach multiple juniors from the rugby schools all with the potential to be much better RL players than any of the pro guys they sign.

Also juniors are the lifeblood of a sport in this regard, not star players. French RL struggled on after WWII for a decade and a bit, then by that time all the old players whom came through the system pre-war retired and RL almost completely collapsed overnight as a result because it was incapable of replacing all those players after they left. Cut off a sport's supply of juniors and you kill it.

 

[The Great Dane]

Then as well as national RG we should bring back NYC

Reserve grade coming back would be one of the most backwards and archaically stupid things the NRL could do, and the f**king cavemen like you that want to bring it back need to realise that society has moved on despite the fact that you are stuck in the 80s.

What the NRL needs is a national second tier with multiple, roughly state based, conferences. But that will almost certainly never happen, and this is a tangent.

 

[The Great Dane]

and how’s that working out for the warriors?

Perfectly fine actually.

Almost every Kiwi RL player is either developed in Australia, poached from a RU school, or both. There're very few that were developed exclusively in the RL system in NZ.

It is what it is.

 

[Wb1234]

Those pathways already exist Though. And most of the Australian kids are heritage, not jnrs out of nz based systems. Abdo seemed to be suggesting that from day one the nz2 club would be signing established union players. It bs. Be interesting to know why he really feels nz2 are best option.

Nrl signs loads of kids form New Zealand what are you talking about

even a guy like fisher Harris came from nz to play for the panthers

 

[Wb1234]

Triple ahem: Station red-faced over Maroon walkout

Fox Sports reporter James Hooper is expected to offer an on-air apology on Sunday to the man who last week quit the program they hosted together – Anthony Maroon.

www.smh.com.au

The arlc really don’t like Perth do they

also concerning about the dolphins

 

[siv]

Reserve grade coming back would be one of the most backwards and archaically stupid things the NRL could do, and the f**king cavemen like you that want to bring it back need to realise that society has moved on despite the fact that you are stuck in the 80s.

What the NRL needs is a national second tier with multiple, roughly state based, conferences. But that will almost certainly never happen, and this is a tangent.

Sorry

But you would see one of the biggest steps forward in player develop by clearly defining professional and part-time pathways

To have NRL players in other club jerseys to satisfy some old 1970s notion of the BRL and those 100 local supporters who walk to their old games on park football grounds

There is a place for both

I have direct experiance that kids associate with their up and commer players when in U21s but hatted it and refused to go to any feeder arrangement games because it felt like watching a former player playing for Manly to them

As I said before take the 3-4 NRL players out of Qld Cup and you wouldn't even notice the difference

Then NSW Cup needs to be transformed into a proper state rather than trying to be a Sydney Shield type of comp. But you do it on a 1 mil budget today with part-time players, those who work and want to play

 

[Colk]

Triple ahem: Station red-faced over Maroon walkout

Fox Sports reporter James Hooper is expected to offer an on-air apology on Sunday to the man who last week quit the program they hosted together – Anthony Maroon.

www.smh.com.au

The arlc really don’t like Perth do they

also concerning about the dolphins

Danny Weidler is a cretin. He is the one who obviously doesn’t like Perth.

It is obvious that the Dolphins needed more time but I wouldn’t imply that they are the new Crushers - typical Weidler sensationalism.
Every new club to enter really needs 3 years to set it all up properly and this is how the ARLC should do it from now on

Also fancy having a go at them for the Ponga debacle - the Ponga clan were the ones who acted unprofessionally in all of this. That’s another thing about Weidler - he loves fluff pieces about players of defends them constantly but has a go at everybody else.