18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

There is no direct pathway to nrl for Perth players. There are 4 in s/sw brisbane for Brisbane players. No need for an nrl club there.

How did the Goodwin brothers get into the NRL?

Or New Zealand players from outside of Auckland?

 

[Centy Coast]

Robbie Kearns. Cronulla junior, played with the Reds and Storm as well.
I think Matt Geyer may be down there too, his son is in their structures.
And Billy Slater from Innisfail, the best fullback I've ever seem.

Matt Geyers son is Cole Geyer who plays hooker for the Storms feeder club the Brisbane (Easts) Tigers.
Cole played in a few of the Storms trials this year.

 

[Wb1234]

There is no direct pathway to nrl for Perth players. There are 4 in s/sw brisbane for Brisbane players. No need for an nrl club there.

Whose the 4th

 

[Wb1234]

Matt Geyers son is Cole Geyer who plays hooker for the Storms feeder club the Brisbane (Easts) Tigers.
Cole played in a few of the Storms trials this year.

Went in the storm sheds once after a game

Matt Geyer was really nice to me and my mates

 

[The Great Dane]

Here’s a copy and paste directly of your post:-

“We need to get back to a place where it isn't legit unless it's a season ticket or similar, and where we're incentivising people to support their local clubs as much as possible.”

A season ticket denotes full membership. Anything but season tickets means part season membership or less. “Isn’t legit” is synonymous with doesn’t count, isn’t real etc.

The only mental gymnastics going on here is that you didn’t insinuate this. I tried to be generous and give you an opportunity to clarify but you couldn’t help yourself in responding this way. You’re over inflated sense of yourself just can’t help but act the fool, even if you can’t see it, because you think you’re always the smartest person in the room. You might just be, but you’re absolute lack of emotional intelligence is resoundingly obvious you become the flog on some random internet site.

Get f**ked you did. You intentionally interpreted what I said in the least charitable way possible to try and paint me as holding a position that I clearly don't to flame an argument and pile on about my personal character instead of engaging with the actual discussion at hand.

All I was alluding to was that there're ethical and practical reasons why there should be a clear distinction made between season tickets, and other similar levels of memberships, and membership packages that only exist to make a quick buck and, frankly, mislead stakeholders and potential sponsors and investors about the club's analytics (e.g. ticketless, away memberships, single ticket, baby, etc, etc). Not that anybody who buys those sorts of membership "aren't true fans" or whatever other BS you're trying to pin on me.

I did it in that manner because it was an aside and for sake of brevity.

BTW, you can f**k off with you're armchair psychoanalysis. You don't know anything about me, my personal history or background, my perception of the world and why I view it that way, or my current emotional and psychological state, and you're in no position to lecture anybody on their emotional intelligence.

 

[MugaB]

Hahaha fmd salty as fk...

 

[mongoose]

You think a Perth team will lead to more quality players progressing to the NRL than another one in Brisbane?

The quality of the QRL system is lightyears ahead of Perth. There are players stuck in the Queensland Cup that would be very good at NRL level if they were given the opportunity.

what players are stuck in Qcup that should be in the NRL? They would be signed by an NRL club if they were good enough. It's rare that an older player has been overlooked. Even someone like Jamal Fogarty who made his NRL debut at 25. played for Australian Schoolboys and would have been on NRL clubs radar since he was a teenager.

 

[Maximus]

Melbourne should have to pay money to the QRL for every player they poach.

What about all the NSW and NZ players that play for the QLD clubs? Should they be required to pay for those players?

Why do you believe QLD-based juniors should have opportunities to play NRL taken away from them?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

What about all the NSW and NZ players that play for the QLD clubs? Should they be required to pay for those players?

Queensland produces a significant share of the game's players. Victoria doesn't.

Why do you believe QLD-based juniors should have opportunities to play NRL taken away from them?

So it's "good" for a Queenslander to have to move interstate to play for an unwanted team in Melbourne and Perth, but "bad" if another Brisbane team is created so they can stay close to their family?

 

[Canard]

‘We have a problem’: CEO says Tigers had been guilty of inflating membership numbers

‘Like a recovering alcoholic’: Tigers admit ‘we have a problem’ in damning membership reveal

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Vlad59]

Went in the storm sheds once after a game

Matt Geyer was really nice to me and my mates

You have mates?

 

[Bukowski]

You have mates?

Slightly more believable than him actually going to a game.

 

[Maximus]

Queensland produces a significant share of the game's players. Victoria doesn't.

And? Answer the question. Should QLD teams have to pay to recruit players from other states or countries, and if not, why are QLD juniors special?

So it's "good" for a Queenslander to have to move interstate to play for an unwanted team in Melbourne and Perth, but "bad" if another Brisbane team is created so they can stay close to their family?

Are these players being held at gunpoint? If they don't want to leave QLD, they don't have to.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

And? Answer the question. Should QLD teams have to pay to recruit players from other states or countries, and if not, why are QLD juniors special?

I answered your question.

Are these players being held at gunpoint? If they don't want to leave QLD, they don't have to.

Same argument applies to juniors from Perth, doesn't it?

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

‘We have a problem’: CEO says Tigers had been guilty of inflating membership numbers

‘Like a recovering alcoholic’: Tigers admit ‘we have a problem’ in damning membership reveal

www.foxsports.com.au

At least one club is honest about it

 

[Canard]

At least one club is honest about it

Yep, it's pretty clear that they all do this.

That's why I think it full season ticket holders is the best metric.

 

[Perth Red]

How did the Goodwin brothers get into the NRL?

Or New Zealand players from outside of Auckland?

Moved to Sydney, like I said no direct pathway for kids in Perth, have to move to clubs on the east coast.

Where as kids in south/sw brisbane have 4 direct pathway clubs within 50 km. No need for another brisbane club when there’s already 4 pathways in place. no one’s missing out

 

[Perth Red]

Queensland produces a significant share of the game's players. Victoria doesn't.



So it's "good" for a Queenslander to have to move interstate to play for an unwanted team in Melbourne and Perth, but "bad" if another Brisbane team is created so they can stay close to their family?

Yes, good summary.

 

[Vlad59]

At least one club is honest about it

I don’t know why anybody cares anymore. We know fumble ball clubs claim memberships from email addresses. It’s a con and used to create false marketing. I’ve said it before. I’m isolated from my club so I pay $120+ to be a member and my family throw a few hundred more in buying me club paraphernalia each year. According to some here this doesn’t make a real member as I don’t buy a season ticket. The discussion is pointless.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Moved to Sydney, like I said no direct pathway for kids in Perth, have to move to clubs on the east coast.

Where as kids in south/sw brisbane have 4 direct pathway clubs within 50 km. No need for another brisbane club when there’s already 4 pathways in place. no one’s missing out

You're including the Melbourne Storm as a "direct pathway"?

There are plenty of talented juniors who don't get picked up by the Broncos because there's only a limited amount of spots available.

Jonathan Thurston and Paul Green were overlooked by the "direct pathways" in southeast Queensland. Both made their debut for Sydney clubs. Cam Smith and Cooper Cronk were overlooked by the Broncos, too. All four players went on to represent Queensland.

About one-fifth of NRL players are from Queensland. There's certainly room for more to play in the NRL when there's 65k registered players competing in the QRL system. The problem is those who don't get picked up as juniors are often lost to the game because they need to focus on work. A third Brisbane team can help more juniors become full time players.

Perth has 4.1k players. It's not going to provide more than a few players at any one time. There's no reason to put a team in Perth when it will be lucky to have more than 3 locals in its squad.