18th club, whose next?

[Colk]

Moved to Sydney, like I said no direct pathway for kids in Perth, have to move to clubs on the east coast.

Where as kids in south/sw brisbane have 4 direct pathway clubs within 50 km. No need for another brisbane club when there’s already 4 pathways in place. no one’s missing out

4?

 

[Canard]

I don’t know why anybody cares anymore. We know fumble ball clubs claim memberships from email addresses. It’s a con and used to create false marketing. I’ve said it before. I’m isolated from my club so I pay $120+ to be a member and my family throw a few hundred more in buying me club paraphernalia each year. According to some here this doesn’t make a real member as I don’t buy a season ticket. The discussion is pointless.

You seem to be playing the victim for no reason.

Nobody is saying you're not a "member".

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The Sea Eagles vs Broncos Pre-Season game shows how much talent is in the Queensland Cup. Broncos are fielding a team that's split between Souths Logan and Wynnum Manly. They're flogging the Sea Eagles.

 

[Vlad59]

You seem to be playing the victim for no reason.

Nobody is saying you're not a "member".

Good. Count me in then. I feel so much better. Was vulnerable there for a while. You should be a counseller.

 

[Canard]

The Sea Eagles vs Broncos Pre-Season game shows how much talent is in the Queensland Cup. Broncos are fielding a team that's split between Souths Logan and Wynnum Manly. They're flogging the Sea Eagles.

Good to see noted Queenslanders as Joseph Tomane, Sione Hopoate and their Captain Deliouse Houter turning out for the Broncos

 

[Maximus]

I answered your question.

You clearly didn't since I didn't refer to Victoria anywhere in my question.

Should QLD teams have to pay for any NSW and NZ juniors they recruit, and if not, why are QLD juniors special?

Same argument applies to juniors from Perth, doesn't it?

Good to see you admit that if Perth shouldn't get a team, neither should Brisbane.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

4?

He's including the Storm's affiliation to Easts. In his eyes Brisbane should be a breeding ground for unwanted clubs in Melbourne and Perth that don't produce players of their own.

Queensland was a feeder competition to the NSWRL for 70 years before the Origin was created. The reason Origin is the pinnacle of the game is because it righted the wrongs of Queenslanders having to see their best players line up for NSW every year in thr interstate series. The games were one sided and hurt the sport in Queensland.

Plenty of Queensland's best players have lined up for Melbourne to play against the Queensland NRL clubs over the last 25 years. Up until last year the Broncos went years without beating the Storm. It leaves a sour taste in fans' mouths and puts them off wanting to watch the game. The last thing the game can afford is to lose marketshare in Queensland.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Yep, it's pretty clear that they all do this.

That's why I think it full season ticket holders is the best metric.

I don’t mind clubs doing one gamers or pet memberships - whatever, as long as they publish a breakdown of their packages. It’s all money for the club in the end and that’s what counts, not the dick measuring.

 

[Canard]

Only 13 of the Broncos entire squad are Queenslanders.

They really do rely on NSW and NZ to prop them up.

They are quite parasitic really

 

[Maximus]

The Sea Eagles vs Broncos Pre-Season game shows how much talent is in the Queensland Cup. Broncos are fielding a team that's split between Souths Logan and Wynnum Manly. They're flogging the Sea Eagles.

Are you suggesting they are beating the Manly 1st grade team? Because you're not dumb enough to suggest that it's a huge achievement for 2 QLD cup sides to beat 1 NSW cup side right?

 

[Maximus]

Plenty of Queensland's best players have lined up for Melbourne to play against the Queensland NRL clubs over the last 25 years. Up until last year the Broncos went years without beating the Storm. It leaves a sour taste in fans' mouths and puts them off wanting to watch the game. The last thing the game can afford is to lose marketshare in Queensland.

Bahahaha the so-called home of rugby league, and most passionate place in the world, is going to stop watching if they don't beat Melbourne often enough.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You clearly didn't since I didn't refer to Victoria anywhere in my question.

Should QLD teams have to pay for any NSW and NZ juniors they recruit, and if not, why are QLD juniors special?

Are you really this dumb or are you just trolling?

Thousands of Queenslanders have played in the NSWRL/NRL since 1908.

How many Victorians have played first grade since 1908?

Five?

10?

The Storm have spent the last 25 years raiding talent from Queensland, NSW and NZ because Victoria doesn't have any quality juniors.

What's the point in putting a team.in Melbourne if it doesn't lead to them producing players in Victoria?

If the point of expansion is to grow the game in new markets then the Storm have failed miserably on the player front.

Good to see you admit that if Perth shouldn't get a team, neither should Brisbane.

It's hard to tell if you're trolling or just plain f**ken daft.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Are you suggesting they are beating the Manly 1st grade team? Because you're not dumb enough to suggest that it's a huge achievement for 2 QLD cup sides to beat 1 NSW cup side right?

Manly's players spent the entire Pre-Season forming combinations with one another. Broncos' players had one week to form player combinations.

What we saw today is NRL contracted players who are on the periphery of their respective cluba playing against one another. NSW Cup clubs have the advantage of not having their NRL allocated players spread over several teams. It gives the NSW Cup teams an edge in the State Championship, but makes it harder to develop players that aren't contracted to an NRL club.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Bahahaha the so-called home of rugby league, and most passionate place in the world, is going to stop watching if they don't beat Melbourne often enough.

You're definitely on your monthly cycle. Go have a lie down.

 

[Maximus]

Are you really this dumb or are you just trolling?

Thousands of Queenslanders have played in the NSWRL/NRL since 1908.

How many Victorians have played first grade since 1908?

Five?

10?

The Storm have spent the last 25 years raiding talent from Queensland, NSW and NZ because Victoria doesn't have any quality juniors.

What's the point in putting a team.in Melbourne if it doesn't lead to them producing players in Victoria?

If the point of expansion is to grow the game in new markets then the Storm have failed miserably on the player front.

So that's a no? Teams should have to pay the QRL money to sign their juniors, but not the other way around?

By the way, you seem to have this idea that places should only have teams if they will bring a lot of juniors, and lack the understanding of what other value teams could bring. What you seem to be overlooking though, is that also rules out all these extra Brisbane teams you want, since they aren't going to bring additional juniors. Those juniors are already there without the teams, so therefore based on your single criteria, your little suburban team is not required.

It's hard to tell if you're trolling or just plain f**ken daft.

You're the one who said it. I just pointed out your failed logic.

 

[Maximus]

You're definitely on your monthly cycle. Go have a lie down.

We will lose market share in the "true rugby league city" if they don't beat Melbourne enough. Maybe re-read the dumb shit you write before pressing post next time.

 

[Maximus]

There are a lot of narrow-minded wankers on this forum who look for a reason to insult those who think outside of the box. It's hypocritical too, because they push for things that are unlikely to happen, yet they try to shut down any hypothetical that they believe is a threat to their preferred vision for the game.

I raised the prospect of expanding into Singapore a year or two ago. It was met with derision by the same people who were against the Dolphins and PNG. Since then I've decided to be ultra conservative since they think it's "stupid" to think long-term and outside of the box.

Also, imagine posting this shit and then claiming Melbourne is bad for the game because it doesn't bring juniors.

Yeah there's a shitload of juniors in Singapore just waiting for a team.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So that's a no? Teams should have to pay the QRL money to sign their juniors, but not the other way around?

I never said "teams should have to pay the QRL money to sign their juniors".

I said the Storm should have to pay the QRL.

Anyone who follows rugby league knows that the Storm's model is built on pillaging the QRL because Victoria doesn't have quality juniors. They've had 25 years to implement a system.in Victoria to address this issue, but have done almost nothing because it's cheaper and easier to poach from the QRL. They're a parasite.

By the way, you seem to have this idea that places should only have teams if they will bring a lot of juniors, and lack the understanding of what other value teams could bring.

Melbourne don't add much value. If they weren't camped inside the top four of the premiership ladder for the bulk of their existence then they would be one of the least valuable teams in the competition. The oy reason theie games are viewed in large numbers in NSW and Queensland is because they're one of the premier teams.

What value does the Melbourne market provide?

TV viewership in Melbourne is terrible. Just 11k overall on 9Gem. Storm average just 30k in Melbourne, despite being one of the premier teams for 25 years. Games without the Storm average just 8k in Melbourne. Broadcasters aren't going to break the bank for 30k viewers in Melbourne when the Storm play 12 times a year. It's such a low number their games are confined to a secondary channel in their home market.

What you seem to be overlooking though, is that also rules out all these extra Brisbane teams you want, since they aren't going to bring additional juniors. Those juniors are already there without the teams, so therefore based on your single criteria, your little suburban team is not required.

The Dolphins are investing significantly in junior football across Moreton Bay and Central Queensland. It will lead to more players from these regions progressing to the NRL.

Dolphins are the second richest rugby league club in the world. That makes them more valuable than Melbourne.

You're the one who said it. I just pointed out your failed logic.

I never said it. You're either lying because you're an obnoxious troll or you're too hormonal to think rationally.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

We will lose market share in the "true rugby league city" if they don't beat Melbourne enough. Maybe re-read the dumb shit you write before pressing post next time.

Ratings and attendances were up in Brisbane in 2023. Brisbane beat Melbourne for the first time in years and made the GF.

See what happens when a team is successful?

My point stands.

Now go change your pad you obnoxious little troll.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

@Maximus

Looks like Peter V'landys agrees with me!

"Look, we're very concerned because we need a strong Broncos," V'landys told Nine's 100% Footy. "We need a real leading team in Queensland because that's our second biggest market after NSW.

"We make all our money from the broadcast revenues and both broadcasters ironically fought after who would have the Brisbane games because they've always been the higher rating games.

"The fact that they've performed poorly, the ratings are poor, and that makes it hard for us to renegotiate broadcast deals. Without broadcast, there is no game in its current form and I can't stress enough how important those dollars are to the game of rugby league.

"So Brisbane being strong is imperative, it's not a nice to have, it's a must-have.

"Our biggest asset is the State of Origin. If Queensland is not strong, we lose our strongest asset. If Queensland aren't competitive the same thing will happen as what's happened at the Broncos, there will be no ratings and we'll go down and it will be very hard to negotiate contracts for broadcast."

NRL news, V'landys flags concerned for Queensland rugby league