2008 Crowd Watch - Final Totals in Post #3778

[bazza]

I have followed League for the past 30 years faithfully. But in my opinion the competition is in the worst shape I have seen it. The crowds in Sydney this year have been pathetic and its near impossible to get excited about the games each weekend.

Crowds in 1978
Round 2, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 15,208 at Redfern
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 14,131 at Sports Ground

Crowds in 2008
Round 1, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 29,386 at Statium Australia
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 18,127 at SFS

 

[elbusto]

Crowds in 1978
Round 2, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 15,208 at Redfern
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 14,131 at Sports Ground

Crowds in 2008
Round 1, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 29,386 at Statium Australia
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 18,127 at SFS

Yep packed houses in 78 (thirty years ago) and stadiums not even half full 30 years later. In the centenary of Rugby League the crowds in Sydney have been terrible. I am sorry but the passion has gone. And 10000 at Leichardt for Hodgsons's last game - give me a break!

 

[Brutus]

Crowds in 1978
Round 2, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 15,208 at Redfern
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 14,131 at Sports Ground

Crowds in 2008
Round 1, Souths v Easts, Crowd: 29,386 at Statium Australia
Round 13, East v Souths, Crowd: 18,127 at SFS

There was 35,000 for a Roosters v Souths game in 2002

26,000 for a Roosters v Souths game in 92 or 93

23,000 for a Roosters v Souths game on a Monday night at the SFS last year. Only 18k tonight.

Use whatever figures you like.

 

[Miller was a legend]

hmmm, maybe, just maybe after that past few weeks performances of the Roosters the fans held little confidence that they would see much of a game?

 

[bazza]

There was 35,000 for a Roosters v Souths game in 2002

26,000 for a Roosters v Souths game in 92 or 93

23,000 for a Roosters v Souths game on a Monday night at the SFS last year. Only 18k tonight.

Use whatever figures you like.

Average crowd for NSWRL in 1978: 10,087
Average crowd for NRL in 2008: 15,655

 

[Frailty]

Average crowd for NSWRL in 1978: 10,087
Average crowd for NRL in 2008: 15,655

Hmmm... 30 years with an increase of 5,500...

Now that;s before the larger drawing crowds of Brisbane, Newcastle, Gold Coast and North Queensland... So that puts the increase less than that...

In 30 years it is disgraceful!

 

[elbusto]

Average crowd for NSWRL in 1978: 10,087
Average crowd for NRL in 2008: 15,655

The point lost here is that the the Sydney crowds in 1978 are very similar to those in 2008, The average is bumped up by Newcastle and the three Brisbane Teams.

In any case its thirty years on.

If anybody truly believes Sydney crowds have not been poor this year then seek help.

 

[Frailty]

The point lost here is that the the Sydney crowds in 1978 are very similar to those in 2008, The average is bumped up by Newcastle and the three Brisbane Teams.

In any case its thirty years on.

If anybody truly believes Sydney crowds have not been poor this year then seek help.

They have been no poorer than in previous years, but I concur that overall the game should be drawing larger crowds.

 

[elbusto]

They have been no poorer than in previous years, but I concur that overall the game should be drawing larger crowds.

That is my point - there is no momentum. I love the game but I am feeling the wane. Bring it back with some great footy and great crowds - please!

 

[big boppa eel]

Hmmm... 30 years with an increase of 5,500...

Now that;s before the larger drawing crowds of Brisbane, Newcastle, Gold Coast and North Queensland... So that puts the increase less than that...

In 30 years it is disgraceful!

What was the price 30 years go you nuffy?

 

[Knightmare]

3 Brisbane teams? The Broncos and who else?

 

[Miller was a legend]

What was the price 30 years go you nuffy?

What was the cost of living, the average wage etc etc etc. If you compare the price you have to compare all other factors.

 

[elbusto]

3 Brisbane teams? The Broncos and who else?

OK I meant three QLD Clubs - nice pedantic pick up but my point is still made.

 

[Red Bear]

you can't blame TV alone. TV pays us the lion share of the money in the game, he who pays the piper and all that!

I'd say the critics of sydney cant have it both ways as well. You cant talk up how we need to pander to the TV companies then criticize when crowds arent great, due in part scheduling.

Likewise the NRL. They cant just say how the Sydney clubs need to lift their game when they have allowed a situation where the tv companies at relatively short notice control the scheduling and thus games arent scheduled in a way to maximise crowds, which is think they should be, they are scheduled in a way to maximise the profits of said TV companies. This round is definately the perfect example, if 2 of tonight tigers match, mondays manly match or newcastle match tomorrow were the sunday arvo games they would almost certainly be sold out, yet we are left with bulldogs brisbane (admittedly if the dogs were going well this would be a big crowd) and nz penrith in NZ n the spots where sydney people generally prefer to go to the games, especially at the suburban grounds.

AFL, which does get a substantially better deal than us, doesnt have to suck up to the TV companies as much as we do by having them pick and choose and having the rounds announced late etc. They still manage to select their draw early with everything set in place early. Why cant we do this?

 

[dallymessenger]

The point lost here is that the the Sydney crowds in 1978 are very similar to those in 2008, The average is bumped up by Newcastle and the three Brisbane Teams.

In any case its thirty years on.

If anybody truly believes Sydney crowds have not been poor this year then seek help.

no they arent.

the sydney clubs today average around 15,000

the average in 78 was 10,000

its a 50% difference so stop talking s**t.

crowds in sydney have made grown quite a bit since the early 80s.

anyone thats been following the game that long would know that rather than talking s**t.

 

[dallymessenger]

That is my point - there is no momentum. I love the game but I am feeling the wane. Bring it back with some great footy and great crowds - please!

now ive seen where you live, your dumb posts make sense.

dont people in tasmania marry their cousins?

 

[bazza]

The point lost here is that the the Sydney crowds in 1978 are very similar to those in 2008, The average is bumped up by Newcastle and the three Brisbane Teams.

In any case its thirty years on.

If anybody truly believes Sydney crowds have not been poor this year then seek help.

Sydney club crowd averages in 1978 and 2008

Roosters: 11,741 - 13,539
Souths: 11,934 - 14,644
Manly: 13,503 - 13,597
Bulldogs: 17,075 - 16,049
Parramatta: 15,488 - 14,294
Penrith: 6,143 - 11,337
Cronulla: 12,477 - 13,502
St George: 13,071 - 0
St George-Illawarra: 0 - 12,186
Western Suburbs: 10,635 - 0
Balmain: 11,782 - 0
Wests Tigers: 0 - 16,896
Newtown: 3,816 - About 1000
Norths: 6,019 - ???

 

[mattyg]

crowds shoulda doubled in 30 years you woulda thought....pretty poor...you'd like to hope all sydney clubs can average 20,000 by 2020 but awho knows?

 

[Teddyboy]

no they arent.

the sydney clubs today average around 15,000

the average in 78 was 10,000

its a 50% difference so stop talking s**t.

crowds in sydney have made grown quite a bit since the early 80s.

anyone thats been following the game that long would know that rather than talking s**t.

Which you talk sh*t you mungo.

 

[Teddyboy]

SANZAR and NRL should just bang each other.