2012 NSW soo side..

[hybrid_tiger]

Degois should be hooker, with Hinchcliffe on the bench.

Ricky shafted De Gois for Corey f**king Hughes at the Sharks, what makes you think he would even consider him?

 

[Tiger Hawk]

9. Wallace - yes, he has played hooker at first grade level. He's tough, his defence is excellent, he has great service out of dummy half and provides another option in attack. He's in good touch - at one point people were saying pick him over Pearce at halfback. Now that Pearce is starting to show some good touches, why can't have our cake and eat it too? We get the Pearce/Carney combo, plus we get the form of Wallace. Farah isn't playing well enough and Buderus was risky even when he wasn't injured. Wallace can be our next Toovey.

This is just asking for trouble IMO. Wallace playing a small number of games at hooker five years ago does not equal FG experience at hooker as far as I'm concerned. Comparing his defensive ability 3 in from the sideline to Farah's in the middle of the park is comparing apples and oranges - who's to say Wallace would be able to handle the workload, particularly the opening exchanges? Is his service out of dummy half any better than Farah's, or Hinchcliffe's? Does he possess the running game of those two players? Again getting the ball at first or second receiver and asking questions of the line is completely different to asking questions around the ruck. Maybe he's up to it, but to essentially play him there as a makeshift hooker - when there's clearly superior club hookers to choose from - is borderline lunacy. Going on past NSW decisions, it's probably a good chance of happening then.

 

[Spanner in the works]

This is just asking for trouble IMO. Wallace playing a small number of games at hooker five years ago does not equal FG experience at hooker as far as I'm concerned. Comparing his defensive ability 3 in from the sideline to Farah's in the middle of the park is comparing apples and oranges - who's to say Wallace would be able to handle the workload, particularly the opening exchanges? Is his service out of dummy half any better than Farah's, or Hinchcliffe's? Does he possess the running game of those two players? Again getting the ball at first or second receiver and asking questions of the line is completely different to asking questions around the ruck. Maybe he's up to it, but to essentially play him there as a makeshift hooker - when there's clearly superior club hookers to choose from - is borderline lunacy. Going on past NSW decisions, it's probably a good chance of happening then.

I'd pick him because he's good enough and in form.

 

[Joker's Wild]

For everyone choosing Hayne at centre - Do you really want to see him attempt to defend against Inglis and Hodges? Really?

I really cant see how he would be any worse than anyone else. Gaz got owned plenty of times against GI and he was a specialist right centre ffs.

 

[Tiger Hawk]

I'd pick him because he's good enough and in form.

"In form" - at halfback. And "good enough". What's next, "born Origin player"?

He shouldn't play at hooker for the same reason Hayne shouldn't defend at centre - they're important defensive positions and players that aren't used to defending there shouldn't just be thrown in there and be expected to do the job.

Pick apart Farah's defensive short-comings all you like - he's very much in the Cameron Smith mould in that he works with the players around him to wrap the ball up and attempt to slow the ptb down (although Smith is a superior 1-on-1 defender and the master of slowing the ptb down), as opposed to the Bedsy (and to a much, much lesser extent Ennis) mould - but he's also got the form on the board at hooker, particularly his defence around the ruck and in the middle of the park. Wallace doesn't.

Buderus should be selected, if fit, to start and Farah off the bench. They are by far and away the most logical selections possible.

 

[Deleted member 10972]

Based on season form + AUS incumbency + CvC performances...

1. Hayne/Dugan/Stewart - could be any
2. Ferguson/Williams/B Morris - could be any
3. Lawrence/J Morris - outstanding club form, Morris is also an option
4. Jennings/J Morris - outstanding club form, Morris is also an option
5. Uate - AUS incumbent
6. Carney - edged out Soward/Mullen, outstanding club form
7. Pearce - edged out Wallace, solid club form
8. Gallen - AUS incumbent
9. Farah - Buderus/Ennis injured, solid club form
10. Tamou - AUS incumbent
11. Watmough - AUS incumbent
12. Bird - NSW regular, outstanding club form
13. Lewis - AUS incumbent

14. Hinchcliffe - Gidley injured, outstanding club form
15. Tony Williams/Tariq Sims - big boppers, aggressive, add more fear factor than Creagh/Hoffman
16. Learoyd-Lahrs/Galloway - big boppers, aggressive, add more fear factor than Merrin/Mannah
17. ???

The last spot on the bench is up for grabs, depending on team balance. You could throw another prop into the mix like Merrin, Mannah, Weyman, Douglas, Snowden, or a bolter like Woods. Alternatively, if the team is satisfied with Gallen playing 80 minutes at prop and TLL/Galloway rotating with Tamou, you could bring in another backrower with a bit of defensive starch, like Fensom, Scott, or Glenn Stewart. Option is open...

 

[Johns Magic]

Lawrence outstanding club form? Have you even watched him this year?

 

[Dragon2010]

But but it's Lawrence. I think he can stand-up at Origin level. He's a better choice then bloody any of the Morris brothers. Great club players, woeful rep players. Who else do we pick seriously?

 

[Allstar Knights]

J Morris being a woeful Rep player is a myth. I thought he played well in his debut for NSW. He's in much better form than Lawrence and deserves to be in front at the moment.

Lawrence didn't show much for Australia in the Four Nations either, to be fair.

 

[gronkathon]

The one thing I am convinced of through all this is I really dont Woods involved in a camp with those worthless merkins stcky and blockhead

 

[gUt]

I've been derisive of the Morris twins but clearly they've both found some spark and NSW could do a lot worse than picking one or both of them (e.g. Lawrence).

As for Hayne he just has to be there somewhere. The one player who would have consistently walked into the Qld backline during our run of dominance. Dugan, as good as he is, is playing injured and I believe it'd be madness to pick him for Origin with his arm hanging half out of its socket. Stewart is a classy player and I'd seriously look at him if his brother is also picked, otherwise Hayne would be my fullback.

 

[goosie]

farah at hooker, i would go jennings and lawrence in the centres.

 

[Spanner in the works]

"In form" - at halfback. And "good enough". What's next, "born Origin player"?

He shouldn't play at hooker for the same reason Hayne shouldn't defend at centre - they're important defensive positions and players that aren't used to defending there shouldn't just be thrown in there and be expected to do the job.

Pick apart Farah's defensive short-comings all you like - he's very much in the Cameron Smith mould in that he works with the players around him to wrap the ball up and attempt to slow the ptb down (although Smith is a superior 1-on-1 defender and the master of slowing the ptb down), as opposed to the Bedsy (and to a much, much lesser extent Ennis) mould - but he's also got the form on the board at hooker, particularly his defence around the ruck and in the middle of the park. Wallace doesn't.

Buderus should be selected, if fit, to start and Farah off the bench. They are by far and away the most logical selections possible.

Why? Start with Hinchcliffe and then trot out Wallace. How is it any different to picking a Bowen or Cronk to come on later in the game? Or us picking a Hornby or Stewart which we have done in the past. It's not. At least Wallace has played games at hooker.

 

[broncos70]

dugan (he was great in his return game)
hayne/morris
jennings (the usual)
lawrence/hayne (made 157m and 2 linebreaks in the centres in game 3 last yr).
uate
carney
pearce
gallen
Buderus (although i'd have hinchcliffe or farah)
tamou
watmough
lewis
bird

bench:
Hinchcliffe
Mannah
Sims
T. Williams.

1 prop on the bench as gallen plays 80, and watmough plays tight anyway.

Mannah constantly dominates defenders and lands on his chest every time. Woods lands on his backside half the time and only looks good because of his statistics. If you want the Woods type of prop then you go with Tolman, who is much better than Woods, and overlooked for reasons I can't even guess. He's a prop that should've been developed by NSW. If you like statistics anyway, Woods made 23 hitups for 170m on the weekend and mannah made 17 hitups for 160. . TLL is the only prop i'd consider over mannah on the bench. Merrin is also a chance.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Bedsy is now out for 4 weeks so you can all scratch him from your Game 1 teams

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[mozza91]

Bedsy is now out for 4 weeks so you can all scratch him from your Game 1 teams

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So now we can look forward to Ennis giving away stupid penalties or Farah kicking from Dummy Half every 2nd tackle, loving it

 

[Bretto]

So now we can look forward to Ennis giving away stupid penalties or Farah kicking from Dummy Half every 2nd tackle, loving it

Ricky Stuart can't pick Robbie Farrah now. Unless he wants to be seen as a total and utter f**k wit spas hypocrite merkin...

 

[thehattrickrabbit]

1. Brett Stewart
2. Brett Morris
3. Kane Linnett
4. Josh Morris
5. Akuila Uate
6. Peter Wallace
7. Mitchell Pearce
8. Paul Gallen
9. Michael Ennis
10. James Tamou
11. Tony Williams
12. Luke Lewis
13. Glenn Stewart

14. Todd Carney
15. Kade Snowden
16. Feleti Mateo
17. Anthony Watmough

 

[Slackboy72]

I'm going to put it out there purely because I'm biased but I genuinely believe the #1 NSW hooker is Mitch Rein. After him Hinchcliffe. Daylight then Farah. Ennis shouldn't even rate a mention given the poor quality of his last two and a half seasons.

 

[gronkathon]

I think Rein has the potential to be deserving of Origin in a year or maybe two.

Right now I just don't think he is quite there.