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2024 Rabbitohs Pre-Season

callmack1

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Apologies for my absence the past few weeks, don't worry, I'm okay this time! Hahaha.

Been really enjoying keeping track of this Pre-Season so far though! Been great! The club has been pumping out content each day on their socials which has been awesome and with the addition of the Bunnies TV footage, we're very well treated as Souths fans in the 2024 Pre-Season. It looks like the club is even doing a Pre-Season documentary called Rabbitohs Rising? They've teased it in a couple of vids so really looking forward to that! First time we've done something like that I believe.

Anyways, some of them have been there from the start, but the stars and big names have certainly filtered back to work in recent weeks, to the point where I believe everyone is now back! It looks like Cam returned today and he was the last one to come back so we now have all hands on deck! Very exciting! Is this the earliest we've ever had everyone back? Normally you get a couple that don't return at all until after new year's. Much needed as there's a lot of work to be done. I still maintain that this is one of our most crucial Pre-Seasons in recent memory.

Everyone seems to be working well and looking relatively fit from what I've seen. There were some concerns over Trell's fitness when he first started but he seems to be working his ass off behind closed doors because the recent training shots I've seen of him look a lot better! He'll be primed. There appears to be a few guys that have a couple of niggles and are on managed loads based off the Bunnies TV footage with the most notable being Jai, Stretch, Junes and Liva. Lachy also didn't train the other day and he had strapping on his calf. I'm sure they'll all be managed and be fine, but it would be good to have a full contingent on hand ASAP. I especially hope Lachie's injury isn't too bad because he needs as much time out there as possible.

I also want to address a discussion I kind of missed commenting on a few weeks back, but I'll add my two cents now. There were comments from some that training seemed really soft and misdirected based off the Bunnies TV footage. This kind of frustrated me because people do realise that Mavo is only allowed to film them initially walking out and the warmup, right? That is literally the most low-intensity part of the session, of course it's going to be a bit relaxed. I have no doubt they'll be working their asses off. Do we really think that after the concerns around training intensity last Season, we would make that mistake again? Surely, we're not that stupid as a club. Surely, we won't be making that mistake again. I could be wrong of course but I really hope not and I'm confident I'm not. They'll be going hard behind closed doors.

Anyways, just wanted to do a quick summary of my thoughts on the Pre-Season so far as I haven't been around lately. All looking good to me! It's an exciting time of year.
 

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Pretty damn cool man!
 

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Man, the thought of them as a center pairing just has me licking my lips.

Also, this is a report from someone who was at training today,

Didn’t see Latrell, a lot of the bigger names didn’t train though a few wandered up from downstairs toward the end, Cam, Cody, Arrow, Graham. I hear the team got a flogging in the heat yesterday.

Keppie looks to have some sort of minor strain, didnt train, Thompson’s in a moon boot.

Interestingly Keaon trained the whole session on the left.

Mellars impresses.

I will add it was a messy session, lots of penance push ups, the whole team paying the price on occasion. I hear last session of the year and they had a hard one yesterday, maybe that accounts for why

And apparently Jack looked shattered being carried off injured. Thankfully seems it’s just a calf.

Chee Kam and Host trained right edge
 

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Okay, okay, okay. Not enough has been made about Keaon switching to the left. There have been multiple training reports that he's been training on the left edge so I'd say we can be pretty certain that he's gonna shift back there in 2024. This is a HUGE change to our team. Massive! But to be honest, I'm all for it.

I think we'd all agree that for whatever reason, Keaon and Lachy are not a good defensive combination. The second half of 2023 really exposed that badly. Lachy is a good defender on his own but I dunno, when paired with Keaon, things broke down countless times. I also have come to believe that their combination in attack is overrated.

Keaon played left edge throughout 2021 and was absolutely outstanding there. In fact, I'd say that's still the best year of his career for mine as he was consistently great over the course of the year. His combination with Cody on both attack and defence is great too, that is proven.

I really like it, especially from an attacking point of view. He's a bigger threat running off Cody than he is running odd Lachy. Exciting! Changes the dynamic of our side quite a bit.

So, who gets the right edge spot? I'm still hoping Jai plays there.

On another note, I'm glad to hear the boys are being flogged. It's much needed and well deserved.
 

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So the lads all return to training for the year on the 9th right? And I'm assuming everyone will be back?

I'm excited!!
 

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Scouting report from the Tele:

While all eyes will be on new recruit Jack Wighton helping South Sydney’s established stars to propel them back into NRL premiership contention, there is an impressive production line of talent ready to ensure the club’s long-term success.
The Rabbitohs have arguably the most exciting backline in the competition, with the ability to pour on points.

However, at times last season, opposition teams manhandled their forward pack. The challenge for Souths is to win the battle in the middle, get over the advantage line and allow their money men the opportunity to assert their dominance.

2023 RICH 100 REPS: 7

Latrell Mitchell (16, $950,000), Cameron Murray (17, $950,000), Thomas Burgess (41, $750,000), Cody Walker (50, $750,000), Jai Arrow (53, $700,000), Damien Cook (56, $700,000), Tevita Tatola (91, $600,000)

FREE AGENCY WRAP AND RATING

Huge signing in Jack Wighton, who provides more X-Factor to a South Sydney side already filled with talent. The late addition of Sean Keppie gives the Rabbitohs another big body on the bench.

Rating: A

COACH STATUS AND SAFETY RATING:JASON DEMETRIOU (2026)


Comes into the season under a huge amount of scrutiny despite only inking a contract extension at the end of 2023.

South Sydney floundered at the back end of last season and they won’t accept a repeat. Needs to start well.

Safety rating: B-

RABBITOHS 2024 SQUAD AND BEST 17​

Jai Arrow, Thomas Burgess, Michael Chee-Kam, Damien Cook, Tallis Duncan, Jye Grey, Campbell Graham, Siliva Havili, Dean Hawkins, Jacob Host, Lachlan Ilias, Alex Johnston, Josiah Karapani, Sean Keppie, Keaon Koloamatangi, Ben Lovett, Peter Mamouzelos, Taane Milne, Latrell Mitchell, Shaquai Mitchell, Davvy Moale, Tyrone Munro, Cameron Murray, Daniel Suluka-Fifita, Isaiah Tass, Tevita Tatola, Leon Te Hau, Izaac Thompson, Cody Walker, Jack Wighton

Ins: Jack Wighton (Raiders), Sean Keppie (Manly)

Outs: Hame Sele (Dragons), Blake Taaffe (Bulldogs), Jed Cartwright (Knights)

Best 17
1 Latrell Mitchell
2 Alex Johnston
3 Jack Wighton
4 Campbell Graham
5 Tyrone Munro/ Isaiah Tass
6 Cody Walker
7 Lachlan Ilias
8 Tevita Tatola
9 Damien Cook
10 Jai Arrow
11 Jacob Host
12 Keaon Koloamatangi
13 Cameron Murray
14 Siliva Havili
15 Tallis Duncan
16 Thomas Burgess
17 Sean Keppie

LIKELY DEBUTANTS

Thomas Fletcher:
An emerging back-row prospect who hails from the NSW country town of

Coonamble. He featured in the Charity Shield against St George Illawarra in 2023 but a shoulder injury interrupted his development.

Jye Gray: A running half who, while still just 19, has been promoted into South Sydney’s top-30 squad for 2024. The Rabbitohs have high hopes for the diminutive playmaker, who they signed from Brisbane in 2022 following an outstanding Australian Secondary Schools Championship campaign.

Haizyn Mellars: The 19-year-old outside back has been described as the best athlete at the club. His father, Vince, played NRL for the Warriors, Roosters and Sharks while his mum, Charmian, is a Commonwealth Games silver medal-winning basketballer.

At 193cm and with an impressive vertical leap, Mellars is an exciting prospect on a development deal for next season, before he moves into the top-30 list.

WHO TAKES THE NEXT STEP: TALLIS DUNCAN, TYRONE MUNRO

Two players who had a taste of first grade but are primed for a big 2024 include Tallis Duncan and Tyrone Munro.

Duncan reminds those at the Rabbitohs of Cameron Murray, so expect him to spend some time on the field relieving the South Sydney skipper.

Munro is a genuine teenage sensation who has already shown his try-scoring ability.

BURNINGS ISSUES

1. Halfback role


Jason Demetriou has backed in Lachlan Ilias long-term and has publicly declared his support for the No.7, so much so that he proclaimed he would be the best halfback the club has had in a long-time.

Ilias has had a mixed bag in his two seasons but has shown enough promise that he can be the club’s long-term halfback.

2. Unlocking the backline

At full strength South Sydney have arguably the most potent backline in the NRL. The task will be getting them all to deliver on their potential.

Wighton needs to ensure he isn’t lost from matches playing at centre, while South Sydney have to find a way to get Munro the ball. He is a try-scoring freak.

3. Tatola’s rise

At times in 2023 the South Sydney forwards were manhandled by their opposition. Consistent injuries to Tevita Tatola didn’t help.

But Tatola was on the verge of becoming one of the game’s best props at the end of 2022. He will carry the load for South Sydney in the middle of the field.

CRYSTAL BALL

South Sydney will look to put their horror finish to 2023 behind them. Wighton’s inclusion plus a return to consistent form for Latrell Mitchell will springboard the Rabbitohs to again becoming a premiership threat.

Finish the past five years

2023: 9th

2022: 7th (eliminated in third week of finals)

2021: 3rd (runners-up)

2020: 6th (eliminated in third week of finals)

2019: 3rd (eliminated in third week of finals)
 

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It appears that we are indeed already somewhat underway for 2024. Seems as though the boys are on some kind of camp judging by some of their Instagram accounts as they've been on a bus and Liva mentioned a camp in one of his posts.

The last Twitter images that were posted look they were a really early morning session, maybe a warm up before heading off to this camp?

I know that the proper start date for regular training is the 9th of Jan.

A camp is a huge way to start the year, I like it.
 

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Hey folks, happy new year to you all!

I don't get to follow things as closely as I'd like to these days and was wondering if there was any thought of Murray moving out wider and having Arrow / Duncan / even Keppie tying up the lock spot.

I think Murray is awesome at 13 but the prospect of having Host or Chee-Kam in the second row makes me limp. Murray has excelled at rep level in the second row and the longer he is on the park the better for us but I acknowledge we lose a bit in the middle.

Would be nice to have another one of him, maybe Duncan will get there.......
 

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Hey folks, happy new year to you all!

I don't get to follow things as closely as I'd like to these days and was wondering if there was any thought of Murray moving out wider and having Arrow / Duncan / even Keppie tying up the lock spot.

I think Murray is awesome at 13 but the prospect of having Host or Chee-Kam in the second row makes me limp. Murray has excelled at rep level in the second row and the longer he is on the park the better for us but I acknowledge we lose a bit in the middle.

Would be nice to have another one of him, maybe Duncan will get there.......
I think cam is the best lock in the comp. I wouldn’t be moving him. Keppie has no ball skills to play lock for south’s. Duncan could do it. I’d rather see Duncan put on 10kgs and move him to the back row. He’s a good defender and he can run.
 

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Hey folks, happy new year to you all!

I don't get to follow things as closely as I'd like to these days and was wondering if there was any thought of Murray moving out wider and having Arrow / Duncan / even Keppie tying up the lock spot.

I think Murray is awesome at 13 but the prospect of having Host or Chee-Kam in the second row makes me limp. Murray has excelled at rep level in the second row and the longer he is on the park the better for us but I acknowledge we lose a bit in the middle.

Would be nice to have another one of him, maybe Duncan will get there.......
Good post.

Cam Murray is also the best edge backrower in the comp if he plays there. Jai Arrow played that ball playing lock role at the Titans before he came to Souths and Duncan took to it like a duck to water last year in Cup. Only a matter of time before he commands a starting role but not quite yet. Murray will get burnt out staying at 13. I'd have Arrow start at 13 and share that role with Tallis with Murray at left edge. Murray would still be heavily involved from edge as some edge backrowers are. He wont just stand out there catching cold. We'd still get plenty of quick play the balls off his hit ups and he'd come through the middle sometimes from there too in yardage.

Meanwhile, how good would our left edge attack look? Cody would get a quick ball from Arrow or Duncan after they dig into the line and he'd look up and see Murray on his hip, Wighton outside of him, Latrell out the back of shape and AJ on the end of it. Would be the best left edge attack in history. Would love to see it. Murray is so evasive in a bit of space that he'd command so much attention and leave even more space outside of him for our three-quarters.
 
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