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redback

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It's interesting that alot of "woman haters" are repressed homosexuals! Not that there is anything wrong with that. It just might help us understand why our resident "Neanderthal" has such strong views on the matter.
 

carcharias

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why don't they just fug hookers.

All chuck in, they have plenty of cash.

They can look at each other dicks to their hearts content that way.
 

warren

Juniors
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surely the porn industry pays more than your average league salary?
maybe worth looking into if you're the firman/tilse type player?
 

carcharias

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I don't get this gang bangin thing at all.

If I am in the nude and in a room where the penis's out number the vagina's ..I am outta there.
 

sharknows

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Mate that is no scenario, they were her words. One minute she has no idea about footy, the next thing that comes out of her mouth is how good a player & captain the married Matt Orford is. The guy she was talking to about her photos for mens magazines that she got paid very well for.

Yeah ... I meant the part about Watmough being upset at her state of dress or undress etc and letting her father know how inappropriate it was.... most likely she knocked him back and he got the sh*ts & decided to belt someone. It's not as if he hasn't belted people before.
 

blacktip-reefy

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If I am in the nude and in a room where the penis's out number the vagina's ..I am outta there.

haha. Footy showers were out for you too? I was raised a different way. That is why I played football & stayed away from Churches, Boy scouts, olympic swimming & other dangerous places where real sexual predators lurked.
You know Carch, I have a fair bit of life experience all around the world & have run amok big time. But i've never hurt anyone or done anything illegal & always tried to be respectful. What would shock people the most is that the most outspoken & outraged "pillars of society" are normally the ones who are behind the most depraved & disgusting incidents that take place on this planet. I'll give you a classic example of trust, who would you leave at home with your kid if you had to pop out for a second? Matty Johns or some guy that takes the moral high ground on a football forum asking for open sexual behaviour discussions to be deleted?

haha f**k me its a no brainer isn't it?

Another thing I have noticed also, are the girls that get involved in group sex, are normally, your fly on the wall types. The obvious slarts like that blonde haired thing are not usually the ones that get involved. WEird but true
 
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Now onto that slart Durazzdo from Manly. I am no Choc fan, but even she admitted that the story behind the problem was he was trying to keep the Manly guys(Orford & Stewart) away from her.
This is her words.
"I am not a big follower of rugby league"
" He seemed shocked that I didnt know who he was. I was talking to Brett Stewart & Matt Orford
" Mat Orford is just an awesome player & captain"

She said this to them whilst they were sitting there looking at pictures of her in beauty pageants.

Its seems Watmough was upset by something & spoke to her father about letting her come to the gig & that he should be ashamed for letting her out of the house dressed like that.

But hang on, talking to the father about removing his daughter from a conversation with a married a man that she was showing her near naked photos to & having a dig at him for bringing her dressed like a slart that to the season opener would mean he has taken a seniority role in the club & doing exactly what people were expecting of MAt Johns . Right? Apparently the dad didnt take to kindly to have somebody point out that is his daughter was dressed like a slart. But he probably ddnt care as he was probably part of the self promotion push she was after. She got her weird looking head on the TV last night anyway.

You are really twisting what she described to suit your argument. My recollection is that she said she was talking to Orford and Stewart who she said were nice guys, and then Watmough comes over and starts aggressively butting in, insulting her and generally being obnoxious.

She was talking to them, doesn't mean she was up for a threesome or something. They were polite and nice to her. Watmough came across as a dickhead to her. He then, having been either ignored by her, or told to piss off, then went and complained to her dad, no doubt also in an obnoxious and rude manner. (I'm a bit hazy here, don't remember if Watmough went to her father or he responded when her father told Watmough to pull his head in).

To suggest Watmough was looking out for the girl's welfare by pointing out her state of dress/appearance is just laughable. Most likely he was just big noting himself and didn't get the reaction he thought he deserved.
 

redback

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haha. Footy showers were out for you too? I was raised a different way. That is why I played football & stayed away from Churches, Boy scouts, olympic swimming & other dangerous places where real sexual predators lurked.
You know Carch, I have a fair bit of life experience all around the world & have run amok big time. But i've never hurt anyone or done anything illegal & always tried to be respectful. What would shock people the most is that the most outspoken & outraged "pillars of society" are normally the ones who are behind the most depraved & disgusting incidents that take place on this planet. I'll give you a classic example of trust, who would you leave at home with your kid if you had to pop out for a second? Matty Johns or some guy that takes the moral high ground on a football forum asking for open sexual behaviour discussions to be deleted?

haha f**k me its a no brainer isn't it?

Another thing I have noticed also, are the girls that get involved in group sex, are normally, your fly on the wall types. The obvious slarts like that blonde haired thing are not usually the ones that get involved. WEird but true

Can you run amok in a brothel??? Idiot!
 

SirShire

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I don't feel one bit sorry for any embarrassment this has caused Johns. Whether he put her away rightly or wrongly, he would have been over or pushing 30 in 02, and married with a son. As a senior player, arguably the most senior player, he should have known better. I'm not surprised though. Joey has wrongly been branded the problem child of the two brothers.

I am pretty disgusted that Sharks officials were allegedly involved in this. I cannot believe Gallen has been dragged into it for no apparent reason.

The host was clearly a man hater. For mine the show lost all credibility the moment that Palavi showed her ugly mug. She was effectively caught out when asked why she hunts NRL players down. Even if she was raped, is she really surprised that it happened? Why does she continue?

Durazza sounds as thick as two bricks. The Choc is an absolute goose. The presenter tried to twist Roy Masters' words several times.

Steve Burraston and Brian Smith did well to cover their tracks and make the cleaned out Knights look like saints. Good luck to them if they had the smarts to organise it. Gallop offered no leadership, just a typical, stale bottle-of-milk look on his face and continually being caught off guard.
 

gunnamatta bay

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I don't feel one bit sorry for any embarrassment this has caused Johns. Whether he put her away rightly or wrongly, he would have been over or pushing 30 in 02, and married with a son. As a senior player, arguably the most senior player, he should have known better. I'm not surprised though. Joey has wrongly been branded the problem child of the two brothers.

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On the nail but imo they are apparently both indicative of the newcastle culture that we unfortunately inherited when we signed 'matty'. What did we buy him for? Leadership? Experience? I guess so. If memory serves me correctly he was on the outer up there. We threw him a life line and this is how he repaid us.

He should have been the one steering the youngins away from this situation but instead he's the ring leader.

And before any newcastle troll gets on here and says otherwise just have another look at the knights officials, gidley and coach waxing lyrical about the new squeaky clean persona.
 

Frenzy.

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IMO it would take a VERY brave girl to of attempted to stop what had already started. The assumption that she allegedly didn't say no or allegedly didn't scream does not in any way imply consent. The question wasn't asked of her as to whether any of that happened so no one here knows.

She was probably scared witless and whether or not she consented to have sex with the 2 she went back with is irrelevant to the events that allegedly took place later.

If you give a couple of people one of your prize roses it doesn't mean all their mates can come and have a rose as well. That's what it amounts to.

She didn't get PTSD (and there were reports from a psychiatrist that confirmed it) from enjoying it I can assure people of that.

This doesn't sit too well with me. I believe her.
 

blacktip-reefy

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IMO it would take a VERY brave girl to of attempted to stop what had already started. The assumption that she allegedly didn't say no or allegedly didn't scream does not in any way imply consent. The question wasn't asked of her as to whether any of that happened so no one here knows.

She was probably scared witless and whether or not she consented to have sex with the 2 she went back with is irrelevant to the events that allegedly took place later.

If you give a couple of people one of your prize roses it doesn't mean all their mates can come and have a rose as well. That's what it amounts to.

She didn't get PTSD (and there were reports from a psychiatrist that confirmed it) from enjoying it I can assure people of that.

This doesn't sit too well with me. I believe her.

If she swimming at the beach & 6 big Sharks were swimming around her would she have screamed then? or closed her eyes? I mean real sharks. If you are scared, you are scared. She wasn't scared.
 
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