GoTheBears said:I'm, sorry, but why would you call the Roosters the Rorters??? Yours is the club that was 1-2 million over the cap and subsequently lost 37 competition points. Just seems a tad hypocritical to me.
damn! a mum joke was next!Danish said:Holy crap!! You hit me with a gay joke!!
Your originality and wit astound me. At least save me from the wrath of a "your mum" joke, i dont think i could handle that sort of pasting.....
idiot
Mr Saab said:Yeah, but that was alot different to "Timmo" who slowed down the play with the chooks on the attack. Very low act.
Santa also milked one the same as "sponge"....but IMO "Timmo's" action was a low act.
Mr Saab said:Nice milk from good ole Timmo. Injured my a$$
Here you go Charlie... quotes are from Shaun TimminsWillow said:Charlie, I think he was worried about his neck. We might hear more about it later.
Which rule is this? It was a possible neck injury, not a cramp.Danish said:but the rule is to send him out back and continue play.
Willow said:So Danish, you're saying that Timmins is lying?
Which rule is this? It was a possible neck injury, not a cramp.
How do you suggest a player is quickly shuffled aside or 'sent out back' when he is numb from the neck down and can't move?
The ref had to stop play.
Perhaps you would like him to evaporate into thin air. Play still had to be stopped.Danish said:If a player is numb from the neck down, then surely it is in his best medical interest to leave the field for a proper check up rather than to have a quick 2 minute examination and be back in the tackling line??
Timmins made the call and the med staff (who know more about it than you or I) let him get up. I personally was pleased for the guy when I saw him sitting upright.Danish said:You'd think it would be an OH&S issue for St George. If a player is knocked out like timmins, it should be mandatory. If his injury was as serious as he made out there is no way a trainer could give him a solid "ok" to carry on playing.
No, what you actually said was:Danish said:What i'm saying is that by enforcing a rule that they be made to leave the field and get the ok by an NRL doctor to protect the safety of players which are said to have been knocked out or worse (as in timmins case), we might see less players having a lie down unless they are geniunely hurt.
Considering your contradictions, I'm not surprised you don't want to argue about it.Danish said:Whether timmins is hurt or not is something i wont continue arguing.
Oh, the 'but' clause. LOL. Again, do you think Timmins was lying?Danish said:But we all know that players are continually hitting the deck in oscar-winning performances these days and it needs to be stopped.
Willow said:Here you go Charlie... quotes are from Shaun Timmins
The moment Timmo's world turned upside down
By TIM KEEBLE
April 27, 2006
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/articles/2006/04/26/1145861420817.html
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"I went in for a tackle and hit someone's hip right on my neck and shoulder. My whole body went numb"
"I couldn't feel my arm or legs for a second and then everything went all tingly in my body. I was pretty dazed at first and it was a bit scary. (Dragons medical staff) were a bit worried because it was my neck, but after a couple of seconds the tingling went away and after a minute or two it went back to normal."
Seems to be a few people like innsaneink and yourself thought Timmo was playing possum. You went as far to say it was a 'low act'. Looks like you called that one wrong. Like I said, he didnt look right to me. I base this on what I saw in TV, the look on Timmins' face, the referee stopping play immediately, and the players (including the opposition) giving Timmins and the medical staff some space. They all knew something was up.
I know you were an apologist for Webcke's spear tackle a while back, but if a player thinks he might have busted his neck, then surely he should stay down.
Willow said:Here you go Charlie... quotes are from Shaun Timmins
The moment Timmo's world turned upside down
By TIM KEEBLE
April 27, 2006
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/articles/2006/04/26/1145861420817.html
...
"I went in for a tackle and hit someone's hip right on my neck and shoulder. My whole body went numb"
"I couldn't feel my arm or legs for a second and then everything went all tingly in my body. I was pretty dazed at first and it was a bit scary. (Dragons medical staff) were a bit worried because it was my neck, but after a couple of seconds the tingling went away and after a minute or two it went back to normal."
Seems to be a few people like innsaneink and yourself thought Timmo was playing possum. You went as far to say it was a 'low act'. Looks like you called that one wrong. Like I said, he didnt look right to me. I base this on what I saw in TV, the look on Timmins' face, the referee stopping play immediately, and the players (including the opposition) giving Timmins and the medical staff some space. They all knew something was up.
I know you were an apologist for Webcke's spear tackle a while back, but if a player thinks he might have busted his neck, then surely he should stay down.
Willow said:Perhaps you would like him to evaporate into thin air. Play still had to be stopped.Timmins made the call and the med staff (who know more about it than you or I) let him get up. I personally was pleased for the guy when I saw him sitting upright.
Meanwhile some dills were sitting at home in their armchairs calling it a 'low act'.
I ask again, do you think Timmins is lying?
Willow said:No, what you actually said was:
"It no doubt dazed him for a bit but the rule is to send him out back and continue play. Awfully lucky it happened on the last tackle right when st george needed to get set. Even luckier it happened to another player the set prior, again on the last."
Which makes no sense. Sounds like you were more pissed off with the try not being scored.
Willow said:Bottom line is the rules are also there to protect players. There was every indication that something wasn't right with Timmins and everyone stopped for a moment to err on the side of caution.
Willow said:If there is a rule which says a player with a possible neck injury should leave the field because Easts might score a try, then play would still have to be stopped. By clearing himself of injury, Timmins actually got play underway quicker than if the medi-cab came onto the field. Try arguing against that.
Willow said:Considering your contradictions, I'm not surprised you don't want to argue about it.Oh, the 'but' clause. LOL. Again, do you think Timmins was lying?
So is it still a 'low act' Charlie?Dr Saab said:From what good ole Timmo has said there i think he should have been taken off the field. Yes yes i am not a Dr and they know more, but you dont mess around with "injuries" like that.
20 seconds? LOL, I knew you'd take the bait and try argue that point.Dr Danish said:The medicab can be on in 20 seconds is a serious neck injury is thought to have occured.
Word. I remember this especially, because I commented on the OH&S risk of the driver not wearing a helmet.Godz Illa said:The medicab was actually called and did enter the field from the vehicle entrance at the south eastern corner of the ground. Timmins was on his feet just after it reached the halfway line. Anyone who attended the game can verify this.
Willow said:. 20 seconds? LOL, I knew you'd take the bait and try argue that point.
Perhaps they could pick up the injured player with a hook and tow him off. Hate to break it to you Doc, but a medi-cab takes longer than 20 seconds to get on and off the field.
Timmins getting back on his feet takes less time.
Some people admit it when they get it wrong, not all it seems.
The Preacher said:I suppose it's easy to settle this argument, Danish, we'll arrange for you to be bashed in the head and then see if you get up before the Ambo arrives.
Win win situation for everyone I guess.![]()
Danish said:If timmins was an injured as he claimed, i have no problems stopping the game for half an hour to get a person with suspected neck injuries off the field.
However, its when he jumps up fresh as a daisy and resuming play, not more than a minute after he was a temporary quadraplegic (numb from the neck down??) that i start to think that perhaps his injury wasn't as serious as he made out at the time. And certainly not as serious as he is claiming in that 2 bit article.
If you want to turn it into an argument about moving a geniunely injured player too quickly then be my guest. Timmins wasnt a geniunely injured player. Certainly not to the extent he claims. So its a pointless argument.
Danish said:Point = What exactly??