Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[MugaB]

That's a good point, and I imagine if adding a 9th game means an additional game for FTA - then relevant questions may be "What timeslot do we add to FTA, and what geographical location favors it?"

Earlier times favor a Queensland team, later times may favor WA.

The NRL aren't bowing to the broadcaster for which area they are expanding to, if that was the case, the next 3 licences would be brisbane jets, brisbane tigers and north sydney bears... hell theyd even push for newtown jets over Ipswich...
Arlc are looking to go where they wont have to pay to set up the bids, and maximise return in players added out of that area... those brisbane and sydney areas already have pathways set up already

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yeah, good points made here - we can already see Super Rugby grappling with the issues inherent with Pacific expansion options, is the NRL's risk appetite up to it? REALLY up to it?

As far as Brisbane/SE-Qld goes, we now have the Dolphins as one more voice in that region that has their own interests to defend. So any team would have to bring enough money to the table to satisfy the "market impact" concerns of THEM as well as the Broncos, Titans & News Ltd. A tall order, especially when we consider News Ltd is a rights-holder for Pay TV, so I suspect it largely depends on what another team there gets from FTA TV rights (compared with other options).

If the next FTA rights bidders say that they'll pay more for a Qld team as 18 than *any other option* then that could be the decider.

The next bid could be influenced by Ch9 and their subscription service STAN. They need sport for STAN to drive subscriptions. They offered $500m per annum fo the AwFuL rights. News Ltd might find it more profitable to add a third Brisbane team to boost sales for The Courier Mail.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

FTA didn't even pay for the dolphins, they aren't going to pay for another team, maybe they'll pay for more content

That's because Ch9 lost a few Broncos' games.

The NRL aren't bowing to the broadcaster for which area they are expanding to, if that was the case, the next 3 licences would be brisbane jets, brisbane tigers and north sydney bears... hell theyd even push for newtown jets over Ipswich...
Arlc are looking to go where they wont have to pay to set up the bids, and maximise return in players added out of that area... those brisbane and sydney areas already have pathways set up already

There's no way in hell they'd choose Newtown over Ipswich. Sydney has more than enough teams to cover the main timeslots. Brisbane does not. Hence the reason there's talk from Ch9 and the ARLC of adding a fifth Queensland team. V'landys said there's no more room in the Sydney market for another team.

 

[Perth Red]

Hasn't WA produced more NRL players over the last 20 years than the PNGRFL?

@Perth Red would know how many have come through the WARL system. Ones that come to mind are Curtis Rona, the Goodwin brothers and Matt Peterson.

Yes we have but I dont think it’s fair to to judge either area s nrl production rate given the lack of resources, pathways and scouting etc. in each region.
I have no doubt both perth and png could be producing a lot more nrl first graders with the right systems and a direct pathway In Place.

 

[MugaB]

That's because Ch9 lost a few Broncos' games.



There's no way in hell they'd choose Newtown over Ipswich. Sydney has more than enough teams to cover the main timeslots. Brisbane does not. Hence the reason there's talk from Ch9 and the ARLC of adding a fifth Queensland team. V'landys said there's no more room in the Sydney market for another team.

Don't confuse what channel 9 want with what you want logan boy... im not saying its right, im saying thats what broadcasters would rather... read the room... expansion only exists to boost the player pool to serve the other NRL clubs.
As for true expansion, PNG, NZ2 & WA should be what the league should be driving for, in that order
Unfortunately it doesn't line up to your local potato counting ways and an NRL licence on your doorstep won't happen for another 5-10 years if that, depending on how the dolphins play out

 

[MugaB]

Yes we have but I dont think it’s fair to to judge either area s nrl production rate given the lack of resources, pathways and scouting etc. in each region.
I have no doubt both perth and png could be producing a lot more nrl first graders with the right systems and a direct pathway In Place.

Correct, this is the way!!!

Just need to get that ball rolling... acedemies and the a link up to an existing reserve grade franchise is all that WA need... problem is youre all too stubborn to marry up with the Jets/Bears and take on their legacy... if you did you'd easily be the next cab off the rank

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yes we have but I dont think it’s fair to to judge either area s nrl production rate given the lack of resources, pathways and scouting etc. in each region.
I have no doubt both perth and png could be producing a lot more nrl first graders with the right systems and a direct pathway In Place.

Instead of creating a PNG club that's based in Cairns and flies around more than an albatros, it would be significantly cheaper to build academies in Port Moresby and Lae for the best U15s so they can receive proper coaching and nutrition.

 

[MugaB]

Instead of creating a PNG club that's based in Cairns a d flies around more than an albatros, it would be significantly cheaper to build academies in Port Moresby and Lae for the best U15s so they can receive proper coaching and nutrition.

Keep up on the news buddy, they are already doing it, your hang up on where the NRL club being based/training facilities hub is clouding your judgement, again its no different to dolphins being based in redcliffe and playing at suncorp, or dragons based in Wollongong and playing in Sydney

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don't confuse what channel 9 want with what you want logan boy... im not saying its right, im saying thats what broadcasters would rather... read the room... expansion only exists to boost the player pool to serve the other NRL clubs.
As for true expansion, PNG, NZ2 & WA should be what the league should be driving for, in that order
Unfortunately it doesn't line up to your local potato counting ways and an NRL licence on your doorstep won't happen for another 5-10 years if that, depending on how the dolphins play out

Sigh.

I showed you the statement that was made by the Head of Strategy Wide World of Sports, Simon Fordham. A fifth Queensland team is what Ch9 wants to boost their coverage in SEQ. They won't get that from a PNG/Pasifika team that's based in Cairns and plays in Port Moresby, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji.

The rest of your diatribe is just an erroneous opinion that you're hysterically conflating as a "fact". Deep down you know your PNG dream has f**k all chance of coming to fruition.

I showed you the quotes from V'landys about expansion needing to bring money into the game and be sustainable from the entrant's end.

Do you really think V'landys and the other 17 clubs will accept a PNG/Pasifika team that needs to be funded by Australian foreign aid because it will never be commercially viable?

What happens when the foreign aid is inevitably cut?

The team then goes bust and has to be replaced at the last minute by a traditional BRL club. It would be a disaster for the NRL and its broadcasters.

The PNG/Pasifika bid is everything that V'landys said the ARLC will not accept from a new entrant.

If you're dumb enough to think V'landys' statements on this since 2020 equate to putting a PNG team in Cairns and having it play all over the South Pacific just to produce more talent for the other 17 clubs then you've got so much mashed potato sitting where your brain should be that it's leaking out of your ears.

There's no proof that a PNG/Pasifika team will add more talent to the player pool. The PNG Hunters were introduced to the Queensland Cup in 2013 -- and funded by the Australian tax payer because it's not economically viable -- to create a pathway for Papuans .

How much NRL talent has the Hunters produced over the last decade?

Olam is the only one I can think of who went from the Hunters to the NRL.

For the record, V'landys spoke about possiy adding a third team to Brisbane at a press conference in 2020.

Guess who else mentioned Brisbane 3 as the 18th team?

Nick Politis.

If you want NZ 2, Perth and PNG in a 20 team competiton then relocate Panthers to Port Moresby.

 

[MugaB]

Sigh.

I showed you the statement that was made by the Head of Strategy Wide World of Sports, Simon Fordham. A fifth Queensland team is what Ch9 wants to boost their coverage in SEQ. They won't get that from a PNG/Pasifika team that's based in Cairns and plays in Port Moresby, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji.

The rest of your diatribe is just an erroneous opinion that you're hysterically conflating as a "fact". Deep down you know your PNG dream has f**k all chance of coming to fruition.

I showed you the quotes from V'landys about expansion needing to bring money into the game and be sustainable from the entrant's end.

Do you really think V'landys and the other 17 clubs will accept a PNG/Pasifika team that needs to be funded by Australian foreign aid because it will never be commercially viable?

What happens when the foreign aid is inevitably cut?

The team then goes bust and has to be replaced at the last minute by a traditional BRL club. It would be a disaster for the NRL and its broadcasters.

The PNG/Pasifika bid is everything that V'landys said the ARLC will not accept from a new entrant.

If you're dumb enough to think V'landys' statements on this since 2020 equate to putting a PNG team in Cairns and having it play all over the South Pacific just to produce more talent for the other 17 clubs then you've got so much mashed potato sitting where your brain should be that it's leaking out of your ears.

There's no proof that a PNG/Pasifika team will add more talent to the player pool. The PNG Hunters were introduced to the Queensland Cup in 2013 -- and funded by the Australian tax payer because it's not economically viable -- to create a pathway for Papuans .

How much NRL talent has the Hunters produced over the last decade?

Olam is the only one I can think of who went from the Hunters to the NRL.

For the record, V'landys spoke about possiy adding a third team to Brisbane at a press conference in 2020.

Guess who else mentioned Brisbane 3 as the 18th team?

Nick Politis.

If you want NZ 2, Perth and PNG in a 20 team competiton then relocate Panthers to Port Moresby.

Fifth QLD team wont be in brisbane, the rest of your dribbling is quotes from the media guessing and the arlc basically saying "its all a possibility" no other bids are making headway, and why would an traditional BRL club replace a bust team... is that your bias creeping in again... if govt money ever dried up theyd already be started up by then, the arlc would do what theyve always done, buy the franchise resell as they did with the titans and knights a few years back..

And you're stretching to be quoting PVL in 2020..
He also said things like "not wasting time on rusted AFL states" then retracted it as soon as there was interest...
I get you're passionate about more SEQ content, but they are simply never going back so soon

 

[Pippen94]

Number of Perth produced players in NRL;
zero point zero

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Keep up on the news buddy, they are already doing it, your hang up on where the NRL club being based/training facilities hub is clouding your judgement, again its no different to dolphins being based in redcliffe and playing at suncorp, or dragons based in Wollongong and playing in Sydney

So they don't need a team in PNG to produce players for the other 17 clubs?

 

[MugaB]

So they don't need a team in PNG to produce players for the other 17 clubs?

Yep, niether does Perth or Logan for that matter..
Keep on dribbling potato

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Fifth QLD team wont be in brisbane, the rest of your dribbling is quotes from the media guessing and the arlc basically saying "its all a possibility" no other bids are making headway, and why would an traditional BRL club replace a bust team... is that your bias creeping in again... if govt money ever dried up theyd already be started up by then, the arlc would do what theyve always done, buy the franchise resell as they did with the titans and knights a few years back..

And you're stretching to be quoting PVL in 2020..
He also said things like "not wasting time on rusted AFL states" then retracted it as soon as there was interest...
I get you're passionate about more SEQ content, but they are simply never going back so soon

FMD. You're either a poor troll or very slow.

You still haven't explained how a PNG/Pasifika NRL team will produce more players for the other 17 clubs.

The quotes from V'landys and Abdo's were made after the Dolphins were admitted.

In what universe would a private entity purchase the PNG/Pasifika licence?

The team will require an additional $20m in funds each year, at the very least, to compete in the NRL because it won't generate much from game day, sponsorship and corporate hospitality. You're delusional as f**k if you this think the other 17 teams will allow the ARLC to cover the additional costs of flying this team around the South Pacific every week.

The only way a PNG/Pasifika team is brought to life is through funding from the Aus Gov. It'll only be a matter of time until the Gov pulls the funding. If that were to happen then the NRL would need to replace the team ASAP to meet the requirements within their broadcast deal. We all know what happened in 2020 when the season was suspended. Only a traditional BRL club like the Brisbane Tigers has the resources to enter the NRL on such short notice.

Provide a quote from V'landys and Abdo stating the 18th licence will go anywhere but Brisbane. If you cannot then shut the f**k up.

I suspect you're just trolling. No one could possibly be this stupid.

 

[MugaB]

FMD. You're either a poor troll or very slow.

You still haven't explained how a PNG/Pasifika NRL team will produce more players for the other 17 clubs.

The quotes from V'landys and Abdo's were made after the Dolphins were admitted.

In what universe would a private entity purchase the PNG/Pasifika licence?

The team will require an additional $20m in funds each year, at the very least, to compete in the NRL because it won't generate much from game day, sponsorship and corporate hospitality. You're delusional as f**k if you this think the other 17 teams will allow the ARLC to cover the additional costs of flying this team around the South Pacific every week.

The only way a PNG/Pasifika team is brought to life is through funding from the Aus Gov. It'll only be a matter of time until the Gov pulls the funding. If that were to happen then the NRL would need to replace the team ASAP to meet the requirements within their broadcast deal. We all know what happened in 2020 when the season was suspended. Only a traditional BRL club like the Brisbane Tigers has the resources to enter the NRL on such short notice.

Provide a quote from V'landys and Abdo stating the 18th licence will go anywhere but Brisbane. If you cannot then shut the f**k up.

I suspect you're just trolling. No one could possibly be this stupid.

Can be all of the above, or neither, trolling is a point of view, and your poor little logan brain cannot comprehend how an NRL licence can bring a spotlight to an area that can grow from it, like the cowboys, like penrith, like cronulla, and now redcliffe
Hard fact they aren't going back to brisbane for the 18th team pal, deal with it... as for PNG they keep chipping away as their bid and one from WA will make the NRL not only national, but moreso international, which to them is more of a feather in their cap than adding another team in SEQ

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yep, niether does Perth or Logan for that matter..
Keep on dribbling potato

You're the moron who's been claiming PNG/Pasifika will get the next licence purely to increase the talent pool for the other 17 clubs.

Now we've established that PNG/Pasifika don't need a team to produce talent for the NRL there's no reason to waste $20-40m of foreign aid on this insane proposition.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Can be all of the above, or neither, trolling is a point of view, and your poor little logan brain cannot comprehend how an NRL licence can bring a spotlight to an area that can grow from it, like the cowboys, like penrith, like cronulla, and now redcliffe
Hard fact they aren't going back to brisbane for the 18th team pal, deal with it... as for PNG they keep chipping away as their bid and one from WA will make the NRL not only national, but moreso international, which to them is more of a feather in their cap than adding another team in SEQ

I think you're a special case of being a poor troll and a braindead moron.

You're just repeating yourself and not providing any evidence to back up your incendiary claims.

 

[MugaB]

I think you're a special case of being a poor troll and a braindead moron.

You're just repeating yourself and not providing any evidence to back up your incendiary claims.

Im not either/ or and can be both, one thing is for sure pointing out your piss poor attemps at evidence that the arlc are going to gift brisbane the next licence are laughable, how are missing chromosomes that gift any sane person common sense, its like if AFL went yep tassie has a team now, lets give them a 2nd one the following year..
Powers of deduction are wasted on the loganite

 

[MugaB]

Number of Perth produced players in NRL;
zero point zero

Royce hunt

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Im not either/ or and can be both, one thing is for sure pointing out your piss poor attemps at evidence that the arlc are going to gift brisbane the next licence are laughable, how are missing chromosomes that gift any sane person common sense, its like if AFL went yep tassie has a team now, lets give them a 2nd one the following year..
Powers of deduction are wasted on the loganite

I never said the ARLC is going to "gift" Brisbane the 18th licence.

I've provided evidence to support my case.

All you've done is shout your biased opinion. When you're presented with evidence that doesn't support your view you get sulky and make puerile retorts.

You keep on shifting the goal post when your idiotic claims are refuted. Creating create dumb strawman arguments, like the idiotic claim about "gifting" a licence to Brisbane, is meant to deflect attention away from your defeated points.

You're now making tasteless jokes about people who have Down's Syndrome.

The fact you cannot even understand the basics of the English language proves you're dumber than a person who has Down's Syndrome. Quite ironic.

Learn how to argue. I've refuted all of your baseless claims. Deal with being a loser and get the f**k over it.