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Commission to outlaw 'shoulder charge'

Should the Shoulder Charge be banned?


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Springs

First Grade
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I don't even see how it's a rule change. Penalties for contact with the head and neck ok, like always.
 

Joker's Wild

Coach
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I don't give a f**k who's "fault" it is... Change it... apparantly changing rules whenever you feel like it is with-in their power yet they allow shit like that to happen?

It's a sport rule book not a countries legal system.... They could stand in and do something instead of sitting on the side line unless it's the media's current golden child...

Who's changing the rules? Contact to the head with your shoulder has been against the rules for a fair while now.
 

LineBall

Juniors
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Don't have a problem with what they've come out and said - just as long as they are consistent with the severity of penalties handed down if the shoulder charge does go wrong.
 

Pierced Soul

First Grade
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/league/...rl-finals-series/story-fn2mcuj6-1226461764562

ARL Commission announces increased penalties for dangerous shoulder charges in NRL finals series
By Joe Barton AAP August 30, 2012 3:21PM


Shoulder charge ... moves closer to extinction with increased penalties to be imposed. Source: Mark Evans / News Limited
NRL clubs have been advised that shoulder charges which result in dangerous contact to the head or neck will incur increased penalties in the finals series.

It was determined at a meeting by the Australian Rugby League Commission just one week out from the finals, with the move aimed to protect the head and neck of players.

Under the new guidelines, shoulder charges which result in dangerous contact will be referred directly to the NRL judiciary without grading - bypassing the match review committee - putting it in the same boat as biting, gouging and other non-graded acts.

The decision could signal the death knell for the shoulder charge in the modern game in the midst of a review of the controversial tackle - the findings of which are expected to be revealed in the off-season.

"While the commission does not involve itself in day to day operational issues, we believe it is important to send a message across the whole of the game in relation to the importance we place on player safety," ARLC chairman John Grant said in a statement.

"The game's executive has initiated a thorough process that involves multiple stakeholders in reviewing the shoulder charge and we recognise that this is a necessary part of any decision-making process.

"What we are making clear in the interim is that the current rules are to be adhered to in a manner that discourages any player from taking unacceptable risks with the welfare of an opponent.



"Rugby league is incredibly skilful and incredibly tough and the rules are there to protect the players within that environment."

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good to see the ARLC jump on the hysteria bandwagon and putting a shoulder charge gone wrong in the same category as eye gouging
 

Stinkler

Juniors
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1,417
So "precedent" doesn't exist anymore?
What was a Grade 2 last week is now off the scale?
Or are we going to see guys be forced to front the judiciary and be handed 92 penalty points?
 

ek999

First Grade
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The way the rules are now though are kind of hypocritical. If you hit someone in the head with your arm you can be charged and suspended for it. However if going for a shoulder charge, you headbutt someone and break their eye socket (King on Kasiano), you don't get punished for it.
 
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I have no problem with this decision, the ARLC have not banned the shoulder charge......but they have put the onus back onto the players, that if you want to risk it, and it goes wrong you pay the consquences.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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http://www.nrl.com/arlc-moves-to-wi...spx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

ARLC moves to wipe out shoulder charge
By Joe Barton and Ben Horne AAP Thu, Aug 30, 2012 - 6:29 PM

The decision to crackdown on the controversial shoulder charge tackle a week before the finals isn't a knee-jerk reaction - rather an indication of how seriously the code is taking player safety, according to the ARLC.

NRL chief medical officer Ron Muratore, who is on a committee given the task of reviewing the shoulder charge, praised the move on Thursday.

"I think it's a move in the right direction and I think the message that it's giving is that people who do the shoulder charge are taking a big risk," Muratore told AAP.

"And obviously we have to protect players' heads."

The ARLC announced this move as an 'interim decision' ahead of the findings, expected to be unveiled soon after the end of the season.

But former Sydney Roosters' chief executive Brian Canavan, who is the head of the shoulder charge committee, has been in regular contact with NRL director of football operations Nathan McGuirk throughout the process leading to Thursday's decision.

All indications are it could signal the death knell for the shoulder charge in the modern game.

Under the new guidelines, shoulder charges which result in dangerous contact will be referred directly to the NRL judiciary without grading - bypassing the match review committee - putting it in the same boat as biting, gouging and other non-graded acts.

But Muratore argues it simply outlines how seriously the game views contact with the head and an indication of how seriously it will be treated in the future.

"We've always taken it seriously," he said.

"We always say that the head is sacrosanct and I think this is just reinforcing that message and saying 'look, if you want to do a shoulder charge, then you're taking a big risk'.

"If they go wrong, then obviously they're going to get punished.

"It's good that we're serious about the whole thing. It shows we're serious about player safety.

"The broad message that people need to understand is that we're not just looking at one thing - player safety is paramount throughout the whole year."

Retiring Parramatta star Luke Burt urged the game's rulemakers to not make rash decisions over the controversial tackle's future.

"Sometimes things accidentally hit heads. They're (the ARLC) coming in with a knee-jerk reaction, I think," Burt told AAP.

"You can't ban the shoulder charge ... you can't get rid of it.

"It's something that's part of the game and something that belongs and it's up to the player to make sure he makes the right contact with the attacking player.

"You'd hate to see someone rubbed out (of the finals) by an unlucky shoulder charge because it's not deliberately trying to hit someone in the head."

ARLC chairman John Grant said it was a necessary decision to be made on the eve of the finals.

"What we are making clear ... is that the current rules are to be adhered to in a manner that discourages any player from taking unacceptable risks with the welfare of an opponent," he said in a statement.
 

B-Tron 3000

Juniors
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This does not bode well for the ARLC.

They are changing a rule with one f**king week left of the season?!?! And when they do they say it is interim until the findings of the report?!?!


f**king hell what a bunch of f**king morons.

Expecting players to curb habits with one week to go is a nonsense. Just wait till the report comes out and change at the end of the year. Is it really that hard?

The more things change...
 

some11

Referee
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Next year you'll see guys doing legit shoulder charges sitting out for a month.

Ridiculous.
 
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The way the rules are now though are kind of hypocritical. If you hit someone in the head with your arm you can be charged and suspended for it. However if going for a shoulder charge, you headbutt someone and break their eye socket (King on Kasiano), you don't get punished for it.

Lol, Kings tackle was absolutely legal, it would be legal in Rugby Union too. He wasn't "going for a shoulder charge" as you say, he brought both his arms round for the wrap.

Kings tackle was little different to, say, Owen Franks on Flip Van Der Merwe, although King was moving a little faster.
 

Hooch

Juniors
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1,096
Does not bode well at all.

Gotta love the 'shoulder charge committee' as well. I'm sure Canavan stretched that out as long as he could.
 

KeepingTheFaith

Referee
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I'd have no problem with the decision if it was made in the off season, but find it a little weird that they make it now.

Will be interesting to see what happens though. By all means get rid of dangerous contact, but when a player drops half a metre in a split second before contact I'd hate to see those being give 5-6+ weeks just because it's been referred directly.
 

bottle

Coach
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14,126
Don't see the problem. Not banned, just putting the onus fairly and squarely where it belongs, back to the players who get it wrong.

Get it right, no drama. Get it wrong, pay the price. What's the issue?

If you can't do it right, don't do it. It was the only rational decision, well done.

Now, as has been said, some consistency in sentencing and all's good.
 
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