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Craig Field

bottle

Coach
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You couldn't argue civil liberties in any forum. Why don't you pi@#ss off and bone up on
your next pub trivia night.

Will they ask what's the maximum number of undercover cops going to the Secret Policeman's Ball that can fit into a car? Cause thanks to you I know the answer to that now.

Keep formatting fool, you're amusing.
 

bottle

Coach
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The fact remains, a government tried to introduce a national identity card.

Whether it was Hawke of Keating isn't really the point. Congratulations on writing more
than a sentence though. This is a break through time for you, although you couldn't actually
respond to the point of the post.

It is a shame you have so little understanding of modern history. It would be far more useful
that your historical knowledge which would is worthy of a pub quiz.[
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Nice edit, and completely logical. I wish I could match your lofty intellectual heights.
 

CrazyTiger

Juniors
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Hey Crazy Tiger, I have a great way for you to prove your intelligent supriority over everyone here. You sate that the police have to much power, what are you suggestions to reduce this power, What would the end game look like in your search for civil liberties?

First off, as I stated in a much earlier post, a police force is a necessary evil. I have said
their powers should be very carefully given or taken away.

I would reduce certain powers. Ideally breath testing should stay. It should be allowed,
and the bracket creep rolled back. No more asking for identity, unless you have are
intoxicated.

I would remove tasers and guns from police. Move the guns to specialised units like they
do in England. Tasers are nothing but an weapon built for abuse of power.

No more sniffer dogs. Decriminalise drugs for personal use.

I don't like the revenue raising surrounding the RMS, perviously the RTA. I would roll back
some of this. As a consequence, some lives would be lost, but in my opinion that is the
price of freedom.

No introduction of mandatory sentencing for the murder of a policeman. Leave it up to
the judicial system.

That is a start. Now it is your turn to answer the question I posed to you.
 

CrazyTiger

Juniors
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The fact remains, a government tried to introduce a national identity card.

Whether it was Hawke of Keating isn't really the point. Congratulations on writing more
than a sentence though. This is a break through time for you, although you couldn't actually
respond to the point of the post.

It is a shame you have so little understanding of modern history. It would be far more useful
that your historical knowledge which would is worthy of a pub quiz.[
/QUOTE]
Nice edit, and completely logical. I wish I could match your lofty intellectual heights.
I think we can safely say there is no chance of that.
 

Fire

First Grade
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CrazyTiger. Do you want positive or negative freedoms? Positive or negative?
 

CrazyTiger

Juniors
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CrazyTiger. Do you want positive or negative freedoms? Positive or negative?

That is non sensical. My idea of freedom, is being left alone to go about my own business
and not be bothered by a society that is trying to preempt every possible thing that could
ever go wrong. Others like the idea of a nanny state (a kind of benevolent Police state)
where we are made to feel safe by government through constant interference in day to
day living.
 

Fire

First Grade
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f**k it almost 6pm. I'm off. Look forward to seeing what this thread throws up tomorrow. Don't go throwing up any gang signs around Crows Nest tonight, CrazyTiger. And remember, check yo self fore yo wreck yo self, cause shot gun bullets, are bad for your health!
 

Fire

First Grade
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That is non sensical. My idea of freedom, is being left alone to go about my own business
and not be bothered by a society that is trying to preempt every possible thing that could
ever go wrong. Others like the idea of a nanny state (a kind of benevolent Police state)
where we are made to feel safe by government through constant interference in day to
day living.

Haven't got time to count the fails, I stopped at the first sentence. seeyawouldntwannabeya.
 

Grapple

First Grade
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That is non sensical. My idea of freedom, is being left alone to go about my own business
and not be bothered by a society that is trying to preempt every possible thing that could
ever go wrong. Others like the idea of a nanny state (a kind of benevolent Police state)
where we are made to feel safe by government through constant interference in day to
day living.

I can understand not wanting to be bothered by big brother etc... but that's a strange notion of freedom, but pretty accurate of what a lot of people tend to think freedom is these days. It's not though, it's probably closer to an apathetic anarchism.
 

CrazyTiger

Juniors
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I can understand not wanting to be bothered by big brother etc... but that's a strange notion of freedom, but pretty accurate of what a lot of people tend to think freedom is these days. It's not though, it's probably closer to an apathetic anarchism.

It is only one aspect of freedom (personal freedoms). If you swing it around, I would be
considered a lunatic on here because I support a mining tax (and the carbon tax for that
matter). I like to think that day to day personal freedoms can be preserved whilst
still sharing resources fairly. I believe they can co exist.

My views on personal freedom are very old republican values in the US, from a time
long before they started torturing people in the name of freedom.
 
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