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Blair

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From memory Rauhihi is ex-navy and debuted relatively late in the NRL- probably instilled personal discipline habits that were separate from football in him, so when he hung up the boots he didn’t pile on the kegs the way many do.
in general it really shows how important diet and exercise is for Polynesians in particular- it’s scary how easy Māori and poly guys can balloon put and basically knock 20 years off their life expectancy.
When I moved up to Katoomba about 20 years ago I noticed there was no 'fast food'. It's never been 'allowed' to set up shop here. I stopped eating it and never tried it again when I'm near it in Sydney and beyond.

I hated Wendy's sponsoring the Warriors and there's McDonalds all over the NRL, from juniors right up. KFC is all over cricket. I'm glad I'm out of it. Being overweight from 1997 to 2017 (aged 27 to 47) gave me motivation.

I also work in a supermarket and see poor diets every day. Not a fresh piece of fruit or vegetable. It's all processed, microwaved, instant, ready-to-eat fare. Sugar is huge, softdrinks are the main baddie, then it's potato chips, Cheezels, Doritos galore.

I feel like a food snob but, in defence of others, I haven't been an angel either. However, I definitely eat healthy now.
 

Manu Vatuvei

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From memory Rauhihi is ex-navy and debuted relatively late in the NRL- probably instilled personal discipline habits that were separate from football in him, so when he hung up the boots he didn’t pile on the kegs the way many do.
in general it really shows how important diet and exercise is for Polynesians in particular- it’s scary how easy Māori and poly guys can balloon put and basically knock 20 years off their life expectancy.

Yeah but my point was Rauhihi was kinda fat when he was playing (when you’d think he’d want to be at his most disciplined) then lost a ton of weight after retiring. I wouldn’t have picked him as a model of physical conditioning and discipline during his career.
 

Penrose Warrior

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I hated Wendy's sponsoring the Warriors and there's McDonalds all over the NRL, from juniors right up. KFC is all over cricket. I'm glad I'm out of it. Being overweight from 1997 to 2017 (aged 27 to 47) gave me motivation.

I also work in a supermarket and see poor diets every day. Not a fresh piece of fruit or vegetable. It's all processed, microwaved, instant, ready-to-eat fare. Sugar is huge, softdrinks are the main baddie, then it's potato chips, Cheezels, Doritos galore.
I 1000% agree with the first paragraph. It sickens me, actually, that sports teams and organisations knowingly promote food they know is unhealthy and causes obesity/myriad health issues. They'd say 'all food is OK in moderation' but they know that particularly Maori/PI families don't eat this stuff in moderation. It's too available, and too cheap compared to healthy options. To me, they need to be better than that. There's other sponsors that will have us.

My kids love that Eat Well for Less program on TVNZ and I know they maybe cherry pick the worst ones, but holy shit some of the diets and lifestyles, plus what these families (a lot Maori) spend on shit food each week blew me away. It's awful. And yes there's personal responsibility but there's so many factors against them (convenience, socio-economic, time poor, lack of education etc)
 
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When I moved up to Katoomba about 20 years ago I noticed there was no 'fast food'. It's never been 'allowed' to set up shop here. I stopped eating it and never tried it again when I'm near it in Sydney and beyond.

I hated Wendy's sponsoring the Warriors and there's McDonalds all over the NRL, from juniors right up. KFC is all over cricket. I'm glad I'm out of it. Being overweight from 1997 to 2017 (aged 27 to 47) gave me motivation.

I also work in a supermarket and see poor diets every day. Not a fresh piece of fruit or vegetable. It's all processed, microwaved, instant, ready-to-eat fare. Sugar is huge, softdrinks are the main baddie, then it's potato chips, Cheezels, Doritos galore.

I feel like a food snob but, in defence of others, I haven't been an angel either. However, I definitely eat healthy now.
But it's genetics! Love that excuse.
I hate seeing the obese kids, they are just set up for health issues in their early 30s if not sooner.
 

Penrose Warrior

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But it's genetics! Love that excuse.
I hate seeing the obese kids, they are just set up for health issues in their early 30s if not sooner.
I believe genetics are a part of the equation. You look at the build of Maori/PI as a generalisation and how they have more of an ability to put on weight whether that's in muscle or fat. But there are much more factors at play, as I said above. So yeah, it can be an excuse...but there's a lot more working against these kids/families. It's not a fair fight when a snack pack at a fast food joint is $5, a soft drink is $1 and nutritious food is a lot more expensive.
 
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I believe genetics are a part of the equation. You look at the build of Maori/PI as a generalisation and how they have more of an ability to put on weight whether that's in muscle or fat. But there are much more factors at play, as I said above. So yeah, it can be an excuse...but there's a lot more working against these kids/families. It's not a fair fight when a snack pack at a fast food joint is $5, a soft drink is $1 and nutritious food is a lot more expensive.
Agree, it would be interesting if a tax came in place on what is classified as bad/shit food and good food made cheaper/free. Humans will still most likely pick bad food as would also take education.
Genetics for sure makes you more susceptible to weight gain, but you have to put the bad food in.
 

Penrose Warrior

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Agree, it would be interesting if a tax came in place on what is classified as bad/shit food and good food made cheaper/free. Humans will still most likely pick bad food as would also take education.
Genetics for sure makes you more susceptible to weight gain, but you have to put the bad food in.
I think this exists in the UK?

Sugar tax does, anyway - https://www.instituteforgovernment....ext=The levy is paid to,8g of sugar per 100ml

By reading articles, it doesn't seem to have touched the sides on obesity - given that's only on drinks, not sugary food, fatty food, overconsumption etc. But I guess it's a small win.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Random thought - does anyone know what Chanel Harris-Tavita is up to?
Travelling and not thinking about footy I’d guess, if he’s true to his word. But I certainly would’nt be against him returning next year if he was inclined, at the right price of course.
 

SpaceMonkey

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I believe genetics are a part of the equation. You look at the build of Maori/PI as a generalisation and how they have more of an ability to put on weight whether that's in muscle or fat. But there are much more factors at play, as I said above. So yeah, it can be an excuse...but there's a lot more working against these kids/families. It's not a fair fight when a snack pack at a fast food joint is $5, a soft drink is $1 and nutritious food is a lot more expensive.
Genetics are part of it and make it a perfect storm with Polynesians, but poverty and lack of education combined with the availability of cheap, fattening fast foods are the biggest factors. You see a lot of unhealthy obesity in groups like aborigines too, who aren’t naturally heavy people.
 

Matua

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Genetics definitely plays a part. If I have a diet that includes any rice/noodles/pasta then I pack on weight in no time at all. Yet, my Asian mates eat rice/noodles at every meal and are skinny as fudge. My friends love it for shared meals eating out, I don't eat any of the carbs and still pay the same share.

Rice is a good food for a huge chunk of the world, for me it's the same as chocolates/sweets.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Dolphins absolutely taking the Sharks to the cleaners, Nikorima and Aitkin having blinders.
their debutant Vallance Te Whare looks like a bigger Konrad Hurrell, apparently was scouted from NZ Rugby by Peter O’Sullivan, anyone know anything about him?
 

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Dolphins absolutely taking the Sharks to the cleaners, Nikorima and Aitkin having blinders.
their debutant Vallance Te Whare looks like a bigger Konrad Hurrell, apparently was scouted from NZ Rugby by Peter O’Sullivan, anyone know anything about him?
Kiwi wrecking ball Valynce Te Whare has become an instant cult hero after a stunning debut for the Dolphins in their win over the Sharks last night.

Te Whare, who only converted to league 18 months ago, has been dubbed ‘Val Meninga’ by fans after scoring twice in the 36-16 victory.

Te Whare played eight NPC games for Waikato in the 2019 and 2020 seasons before a brief stint at King Country. Late in 2021 he signed a deal with the Dolphins to make the switch to rugby league, more than a year before the franchise’s first ever game. He impressed in the Hostplus Cup last season being named Centre of the Year and continued that form to earn his NRL call-up this week.

Playing centre with a forward’s frame, the 22-year-old scored his first NRL try by pushing off four Sharks defenders in the 23rd minute to give the home team an early 18-0 lead. He added another try in the second half.

Valynce Te Whare of the Dolphins celebrates with teammates after scoring a try against the Sharks. Photo / Getty
Valynce Te Whare of the Dolphins celebrates with teammates after scoring a try against the Sharks. Photo / Getty


“Impossible to stop at close range. There are comparisons physically with an immortal, with Mal Meninga and that was an awesome run to get to the try line,” Fox Sport commentator Dan Ginnane said.

Fellow commentator and Broncos great Corey Parker was astounded by Te Whare’s power.

“On debut, only moments ago he got stood up by Mulitalo. But have a look at this, from a standing start the power and acceleration,” he said.

Ginnane added: “You can see the joy he brings. Talking about cult hero at the end of the season, his first grade career is just 24 minutes old — he’s a cult hero now.”

Last week Dolphins coach Wayne Bennett was made aware of the Val Meninga nickname but wasn’t buying it.

“There is no way you can get that surname out in one mouthful so he is known as Val Smith around here,” he said.

“Val Meninga. I like that line,” Bennett continued.

“I saw that the other day and I thought, ‘What are the similarities between him and Mal Meninga?”

“I coached Mal. He is a great player and a great guy. I thought the only similarity was his shorts. I reckon they are both the same size. He is no Mal Meninga, I can tell you that.”

According to NRL.com, Te Whare was the 183rd player to be given an NRL debut by Bennett with the Dolphins’ clash against the Sharks his 900th in charge.

“He is one of the first players we signed here. (Recruitment manager) Peter O’Sullivan saw him in New Zealand playing rugby in the schoolboys,” he said.

“To his credit he has worked really hard and had to make a pretty big adaption from rugby to rugby league. We have invested quite a bit of time in him. It has worked out for both parties.”

 

Matua

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Dolphins absolutely taking the Sharks to the cleaners, Nikorima and Aitkin having blinders.
their debutant Vallance Te Whare looks like a bigger Konrad Hurrell, apparently was scouted from NZ Rugby by Peter O’Sullivan, anyone know anything about him?
Why was O'Sullivan scouting the Heartland Cup? Ah I see he spotted him years ago at schoolboy level.

Unsurprisingly when you see him, a lack of commitment to keeping his weight down is apparently why he was playing down at that level rather than in the NPC (not 100% sure this is true but from a source involved with Waikato).

The hype over him this weekend has been a bit silly. Warbrick has being doing the business for a few weeks if they wanted to go silly over a rugby convert.
 

Fufu Andronez

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Why was O'Sullivan scouting the Heartland Cup? Ah I see he spotted him years ago at schoolboy level.

Unsurprisingly when you see him, a lack of commitment to keeping his weight down is apparently why he was playing down at that level rather than in the NPC (not 100% sure this is true but from a source involved with Waikato).

The hype over him this weekend has been a bit silly. Warbrick has being doing the business for a few weeks if they wanted to go silly over a rugby convert.
Nothing has really changed in that regard. Carrying a bit of conditioning, but maybe he's one of those blokes that needs it to be effective eg Kasiano
 

Meth

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Eli Katoa has a bit of a moment last night, casually strolling over the line and having the ball knocked out of his grasp before he could put it down by Ezra Mam
 

Meth

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When asked about it, Bellamy said "score the try and then celebrate...that's all I'm going to say"
 

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