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General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Penrith Panthers' started by OldPanther, Mar 13, 2018.

  1. Luke Bowden

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    Oh my hat, I don’t even know where to start with this.

    For most of the Second half, he was kicking from his own 30-50 metre line. He was kicking bombs, because they give the best opportunity for the defensive line to make ground and try and win back field position. You can’t roll a ball into the in goal from your own 30m line. The blues played horrible footy in the 2nd half and went completely away from what was working in the 1st half.

    You judge it by watching the game, seeing where they are shifting or holding. It really doesn’t matter who scores or who throws the last pass.

    Make no mistake, Cleary through the most important / hardest pass in JAC’s try. Anyone who knows anything about footy will tell you that, that’s why I used it as an example.

    This last paragraph is like something I read in a 1980’s “coaching for idiots” book. I can’t even really answer it without sounding rude.
     
  2. Smug Panther

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    Nathan improved out of sight in 2020. I'm backing him to keep progressing
     
  3. The_Frog

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    Fittler has made him vice-captain. Not sure I agree with this but it might lift him. If Tedesco goes down he'll be NSW captain.
     
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  4. Luke Bowden

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    Good move, he plays better with more responsibility. He’ll be great.
     
  5. Kilkenny

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    I think we as Panthers fans are more than capable of being objective about the performances of our own players,

    If I was going to single out one player who didn’t quite perform anywhere near what he is capable of, particularly when it counted most it was probably KiKau. Very disappointing for mine.
     
  6. Aliceinwonderland

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    Franklin is sounding like there's an agenda regarding Cleary floating around.

    Cleary improved out of sight in 2020. I'm predicting this to continue.

    Then Franklin will have to find someone else to 'death ride'.
     
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  7. Jane Murray

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    You're banging your head on a brick wall in regards to that, Alice. Franklin thinks his opinion, and his alone, is all that matters.
     
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  8. Luke Bowden

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    Dally M 2nd rower of the year? I know that system isn’t great, but he can’t of been too bad?
     
  9. Smug Panther

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    I strongly disagree with @franklin2323 on Cleary but he's a great poster on here and I do respect his opinions
     
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  10. Jane Murray

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    I find him arrogant, and condescending.
     
  11. Kilkenny

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    I just felt his reputation didn’t quite match his performances.
     
  12. Luke Bowden

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    Yeah same
     
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  13. Luke Bowden

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    Arrogant?
     
  14. forby

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    Cleary had to spend too much time at dummy half because Cook doesn’t get there after a kick until tackle 4.
     
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    Good point.

    Cook is getting by on his biceps sometimes. Big fan but he has not outplayed Korisau in 2020.
     
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  16. franklin2323

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    You don't think in those situations sometimes a kick into touch. To slow it down and get the line set is better to at worst mix it up?

    You keep doing the same thing and getting the same result makes no sense. Mix it up and get a different result.

    As for my last paragraph. Cleary scored a great individual try off a grubber v Manly and it was never seen again. He has the odd flash like that creating something so he can do it. Yet don't see it enough
     
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    He is another that fell away. Drifted in and out of games
     
  18. franklin2323

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    There should be more of it. The side isn't perfect not far off but then can get the discussion back to how it can be improved.

    As I am sure those around the side have these conversation regularly
     
  19. franklin2323

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    Having differing opinions is the joy of this place or would be boring otherwise
     
  20. Luke Bowden

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    A kick into touch not only allows the d line to get set, it stops the play, let’s the opposition get set and allows them to all get on side and go.

    a bomb forces the opposition to have to rush to get on side, this tires out forwards and makes the back 3 work a lot harder. It’s a very solid tactic. Repetitive action take the steam out of the opposition.

    He scored and created plenty of great tries this season, the opportunity to grubbed for him self may have only come up once or twice. I certainly don’t want to see him trying it if it’s not there.
     

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