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It matters if the current squad dig in and refused to be moved on
So is the hope the other players dig in, refuse to be moved, and then Kiks comes back to us with arms wide open?

I just struggle to understand why the specific point of the unregistered contract has got everyone so excited. Sure talk about the Dogs having a materially out of whack roster, but why are people fixated on this point?
 

Smug Panther

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So is the hope the other players dig in, refuse to be moved, and then Kiks comes back to us with arms wide open?

I just struggle to understand why the specific point of the unregistered contract has got everyone so excited. Sure talk about the Dogs having a materially out of whack roster, but why are people fixated on this point?
Nope we've got the best of Kiks. See ya mate
 

The_Frog

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Lockyer is a company director and Ben Ikin is 'Football and Performance Director'.

Walters is mates with both of them, you imagine if Walters gets the punt those two won't be far behind.

A literal Boys Club.
Ikin's only been there 5 minutes.
 

BxTom

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I remember watching some drunken lout trying to pick a fight with Brandon Lee in the Reactor Room one night after a game. For you youngsters, Brandon was a prop who played for the Panthers and the Bulldogs (a Bulldogs team as hard as nails with Tunks, Kelly et al) back in the 80's. This night, Brandon was well oiled and the bloke is poking him in the chest and just asking to to be snotted. Luckily for him, MG wasn't in that night or he would have bitten off more than he could chew. MG's fuse was considerably shorter than Brandons, if he had a fuse at all, but Brandon kept smiling and then Security grabbed the muppet and dragged him off.

I saw this all the time, as a regular at Panther's in the late 80's. That and the way woman would throw themselves at the players, especially Brandy. Interesting times and I am sure this still happens. The only difference is the widespread availability of phone cameras and CCTV. If you have a public profile, you can't scratch yourself now without somebody recording it.
I can remember Brandon Lee. Similar to Jack Hetherington. Not someone that I would pick.
 

Iamback

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So is the hope the other players dig in, refuse to be moved, and then Kiks comes back to us with arms wide open?

I just struggle to understand why the specific point of the unregistered contract has got everyone so excited. Sure talk about the Dogs having a materially out of whack roster, but why are people fixated on this point?

Just a response to Gus' number 1 fan @Girds89 who thinks he is the only person in the sport without an agenda or doesn't lie. They all do
 

Fangs

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I posted about this earlier in the year. Gus always has agendas so its fair enough that fans want to link that to the Kikau photo. But the story doesn't add up.

If he wanted to release the photo then he would have just done it. It was taken by an employee on CCTV who then got sacked. So if you believe this was a grand plan then you also have to believe that Gould orchestrated the fake sacking as well.

It starts getting a bit too absurd at that point and fits quite nicely in the conspiracy bucket.
 

Girds89

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Just a response to Gus' number 1 fan @Girds89 who thinks he is the only person in the sport without an agenda or doesn't lie. They all do
Definitley a gould fan..

Like everything else on this forum tho if i think something he did is crap like any of our players id say so..

Youve had it in for gus for years mate..

Im just not sure why people want to keep looking at ways to stick the boot in to gould.

He provided hes version of events and no one has come out and said hes lying.... yet you assume he is lol.

Its all a bit comically..

If someone comes out and says hes full of shit and thats not what happened than the egg will be on his face.

But atm you just look silly thinking hes lying or assuming it by the sounds of it when no one else is arguing what happened haha

Im not assuming anything.. im just reading between the lines.. wouldnt matter if it was gould, griffin, bennett, or my most hated person in the nrl.

My opinion has nothing to do with being a gould fan. Im just calling it as it is currently.
 

Iamback

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Definitley a gould fan..

Like everything else on this forum tho if i think something he did is crap like any of our players id say so..

Youve had it in for gus for years mate..

Im just not sure why people want to keep looking at ways to stick the boot in to gould.

He provided hes version of events and no one has come out and said hes lying.... yet you assume he is lol.

Its all a bit comically..

If someone comes out and says hes full of shit and thats not what happened than the egg will be on his face.

But atm you just look silly thinking hes lying or assuming it by the sounds of it when no one else is arguing what happened haha

Im not assuming anything.. im just reading between the lines.. wouldnt matter if it was gould, griffin, bennett, or my most hated person in the nrl.

My opinion has nothing to do with being a gould fan. Im just calling it as it is currently.

Is the contract registered?

Simple yes or no. That is a fact that can be proven
 

soc123_au

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Kikau did the wrong thing putting the shirt on. Nothing Gus does bothers me
Same. Gus can be a blow hard, but everything he does is him trying to do what he thinks is best for the club he works for. We got the benefit of that, so it's to be expected he will do the same at the Dogs. It's all theatre.

I do think age is catching up to him though. I think we got his prime years as an administrator.
 

betcats

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I posted about this earlier in the year. Gus always has agendas so its fair enough that fans want to link that to the Kikau photo. But the story doesn't add up.

If he wanted to release the photo then he would have just done it. It was taken by an employee on CCTV who then got sacked. So if you believe this was a grand plan then you also have to believe that Gould orchestrated the fake sacking as well.

It starts getting a bit too absurd at that point and fits quite nicely in the conspiracy bucket.

Im not saying I but into any theory but Gus could definitely not just release the photo after he promised kikau it would not be released to get him to take it, that would be a great way to get Kikau extremely pissed at him and Barrett and the dogs.

Also Gus has said they took the photo then for promotional stuff after the season, as kiks was going to likely be in the Fiji squad for the World Cup so they wouldn’t have time to take the after the season. Like really does anyone actually believe that? Kiks and the dogs are in western Sydney, that’s a weak as piss explanation from Gould and it makes me a little suspicious tbh.

All in all I think it’s likely just a dumb decision all round from kiks and gould/barrett but I think some of the things Gus says on it are suspect as is the timing of it.
 

Aliceinwonderland

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I think because it flies in the face of everything that Gould did when at the Panthers, especially in relation to new signings.

This photo was released the day before the parade in Penrith to celebrate the grandfinal win.....

To me it has a stench about it, fits together so neatly.

Was Gould pissed off about Panthers not showing him enough respect after the grandfinal win, (regarding the work he did at the club)

Was it the middle finger to those who brought back Ivan Cleary to the club, which led to him leaving. Especially when you realise that John Faragher (great mates with Gould ) stands for board election and outs the chairman who bought Cleary back.

Is it a revenge dish served cold ?

Who knows.
 

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