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Goodbye Mt Smart, hello North Shore

mean_maori_mean

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11336746/

Both sides playing games, but clearly the Warriors management are a big part of this... so to blame the council entirely is not right

Somebody needs to come out and call Domm out.

He is an arrogant bastard that is for sure - people arent that dumb.

Does everybody remember what they used to do to the South Stand.
They used to have more seats behind it.

Easy way to increase capacity and would cost nothing.

Warriors Big Dogs clearly played hard ball - a reason to negotiate.

There are other corrupt reasons why they are doing this - how about Media actually expose these?
 

shiznit

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Somebody needs to come out and call Domm out.

He is an arrogant bastard that is for sure - people arent that dumb.

Does everybody remember what they used to do to the South Stand.
They used to have more seats behind it.

Easy way to increase capacity and would cost nothing.

Warriors Big Dogs clearly played hard ball - a reason to negotiate.

There are other corrupt reasons why they are doing this - how about Media actually expose these?
Why wait for the media??

Why don't you enlighten us on these corrupt reasons??
 

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A figure of $73.4 million is the cost of improving Mt Smart Stadium as demanded by the Warriors, says the boss of the council's stadiums.

The Weekend Herald has obtained a breakdown of the $73.4 million figure, which includes two new stands costing $44 million, major spending on the Colin Kay stand and a multi-storey carpark.

Robert Domm, the chief executive of Regional Facilities Auckland, released "private and confidential" documents from 2012 showing the Warriors wanted to commit long-term to Mt Smart.

The club's second option was to commit long-term to Eden Park. The third option was to see out the current lease on Mt Smart to 2018 and take games to wherever the club chose.

Mr Domm said the $73.4 million figure was a costing based on a list of work the Warriors requested to bring Mt Smart up to international stadium standard with seating for 30,000.

"The Warriors know very well where that figure came from," Mr Domm said. "They submitted to us two years ago a list of works they wanted done on Mt Smart Stadium.



We got those costed by an independent quantity surveyor, so there is no secret where the numbers came from."

The figure has been a matter of contention since the council's facilities arm unveiled a new plan to relocate the Warriors to Albany's QBE Stadium when the NRL club's Mt Smart lease expires.

Albany councillor John Watson said the figure was based on a historic "wishlist" when Regional Facilities knew Mt Smart could be adequately upgraded for less than $10 million.

But Mr Domm said even spending $20 million on Mt Smart would be throwing good money after bad because it would not increase the 23,000-seat capacity of the ground, which is inadequate for growing the game of league.

"The Warriors have got two options, Eden Park and QBE. All we are saying is we will make QBE a more attractive option for them."

Warriors chief executive Wayne Scurrah said the $73.4 million figure was based on concepts, designs and costings "fully determined by RFA, not by us".

The figure was based on what the Warriors were asked Mt Smart should look like for full internationals.

Mr Domm also reacted to a comment from Warriors owner Eric Watson that it would be a "travesty" if his club was forced out of Mt Smart.

"At the end of the day Eric Watson is not going to put his hand in his own pocket and spend $70 million.

"What we have done on behalf of the ratepayers is come up with a plan that will transform all of Auckland's stadia for $30 million rather than spending $70 million on Mt Smart which still leaves you with one stadium too many."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11336746
 

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The Warriors are considering legal action against the Auckland Council over their perceived failure to maintain Mt Smart Stadium to an acceptable standard.

Last week, Regional Facilities Auckland (RFA) announced that Albany's QBE Stadium, along with the previously mooted option of Eden Park, were the only possible future homes for the Warriors, with Mt Smart out of the picture.

That's because of a renovation price tag in excess of $70 million to restore, upgrade and future-proof the Penrose facility.

Those developments sparked a fierce response from Warriors chairman Bill Wavish - "the gloves are definitely off" according to one club official.

Now the Herald on Sunday understands that the NRL club could be about to launch legal action.

There is a view at the club that the current state of Mt Smart - the RFA insist the stadium is "near the end of its economic life cycle" - is due partly to the lack of maintenance undertaken by the council since the Warriors started playing there in 1995.



If the case goes to court, the Warriors will argue that the council (and latterly the RFA) failed to meet their obligations to ensure that the ground, redeveloped for the 1990 Commonwealth Games, was maintained to an acceptable NRL standard.

There is also the ongoing dispute over the booking of the two Eagles concerts next March, which the club claims breached their rights as primary leaseholder.

RFA chief executive Robert Domm was reluctant to comment on the prospect of a legal battle.

"There are processes that need to be followed as part of the licence agreement," says Domm.

"If the Warriors make such allegations publicly, they will be in breach of that agreement. These processes involve commercial matters and are confidential."

Domm disputes the assertion that Mt Smart Stadium has been neglected.

"It has been maintained to an acceptable NRL level - there is no doubt about that," says Domm. "There may well be some historical issues but the RFA team has done an exceptional job to maintain that stadium with a limited budget.

"And a lot of things are done behind the scenes that the Warriors may not necessarily see."

Domm says the RFA has increased seating at both ends of the ground, added a replay screen, recently spent $600,000 to address safety and access issues and have completed a $1.5 million upgrade of the Warriors' training field.

However, parts of the ground need serious work.

Some of the seating is beginning to rust off in the Colin Kay Stand (which needs a major overhaul), the gravel carparks, changing rooms and media facilities are far from adequate, and a form of shrink wrap was used in one grandstand during the 2012 season after fears that the glass walls could shatter and fall on spectators.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11337152
 

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A $25 million upgrade of Mt Smart Stadium for the Warriors was considered in 2012, but was never actively pursued.

A plan to move the private club to QBE Stadium in Albany was favoured instead.

Documents released to the Herald show Warriors co-owner Sir Owen Glenn and former Deputy Prime Minister Sir Don McKinnon, who chairs Auckland Council's regional facilities arm, were among club and council leaders who discussed the $25 million upgrade in November 2012.

A month later, the plan to "upgrade Mt Smart to a modern 20,000-seat stadium" was approved for community engagement by Auckland councillors, alongside Regional Facilities Auckland's preferred option of moving the Warriors to Eden Park.

The Warriors have been told they must leave Mt Smart when their lease expires in 2018 and have been given options by Regional Facilities to move to Eden Park or QBE Stadium.

But "in the interests of completeness", Regional Facilities has released details of discussions between itself and the Warriors for a $25 million upgrade of Mt Smart.



The parties discussed the possibility of adding $10 million to the existing $15.2 million maintenance budget for Mt Smart to upgrade the existing seating for 20,000, refurbish the west stand, complete the east stand and build a semi-covered stand at one end of the stadium.

The $25 million investment would have allowed the Warriors to play regular season games at Mt Smart with any finals and "blockbuster" season games at Eden Park. A figure of $73.4 million for improving Mt Smart to international standard with seating for 30,000 was also considered, but deemed too expensive by Regional Facilities and the council.

Mr Domm said that to the best of his knowledge the Warriors never came back to Regional Facilities after the November 2012 discussions "with a revised lower cost upgrade of Mt Smart and we have never met again over this specific issue".

After late 2012, the Warriors moved to discussing the option of moving to Eden Park and trialled several games there, he said.


Mr Domm said Regional Facilities used the period between December 2012 and when public consultation on the stadium strategy concluded in July this year to do more work on the strategy, which confirmed a lower-cost upgrade of Mt Smart would not achieve the same benefits as a $30 million scheme to use North Shore's QBE Stadium for league, soccer and some rugby and Eden Park for bigger events.

Mention of the $25 million upgrade was buried in the council's public consultation on the stadium strategy.

Warriors head Wayne Scurrah could not be reached for comment.

The Warriors' submission on the stadium strategy did not mention the $25 million upgrade, but stated international standard venues were required to retain and grow NRL events in Auckland.


Mt Smart: Two options


$25m upgrade
*Maintenance of existing 20,000 seating.
*Refurbished west stand (media facilities, changing rooms, lounges, lower seating).
*New, semi-covered stand at one end of stadium.
*East stand completed with new entrances, public address systems.
*Carparks sealed.

$75m upgrade
*New north and south stands.
*Reconfigured lower seats in Colin Kay west stand.
*New food and beverage and toilet facilities.
*Concourse around stadium.
*New replay screens.
*Multi-storey carpark.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11338067
 

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The Warriors NRL club will be asked to relocate to Albany after 2018 as part of a stadium strategy that will see $30 million invested in upgrading North Harbour's QBE Stadium, creating an international cricket ground at Western Springs and relocating speedway to Western Springs.

The Herald asked Auckland's city councillors if they support the plan.


In favour


Arthur Anae, Manukau: "I will support it because I don't see a better alternative at this point in time."

George Wood, North Shore: "North Harbour is a stadium that has got a lot of potential and it wouldn't be as as costly as what they are talking about putting into Mt Smart. If the Warriors want to set up their own stadium, well, let them go and do it."

Penny Webster, Rodney: "We have to got rationalise. We have got too many stadia.



Once people get over the emotion I think it will work properly all round. We have to make the decision based on what is best for the ratepayers of Auckland."

Linda Cooper, Waitakere: "This is about the Auckland ratepayers and how much hemorrhaging in losses from current stadia the ratepayer can stand. The percentage of people who actually go to Warriors games is not a whole lot. We have got to bite the bullet as a region. Everybody wants us to keep the rates down."

Penny Hulse (deputy mayor), Waitakere: "We have to make sure we get the bast bang for ratepayers' dollars. Do I support the strategy? Yes, I do."

Ross Clow, Whau: "I think the strategy works. It would be nice for the Warriors to stay where they are but we just can't justify that expenditure."

Denise Krum, Maungakiekie-Tamaki: "We've got one football stadium too many and I would think a prestigious team like the Warriors need to grow their game and outgrow Mt Smart anyway."


Not in favour


John Watson, Albany: "That figure is just baloney, just rubbish. It is the highest figure they can think of. They want to suggest Mt Smart is a basket case and it is going to take tens of millions of dollars. In actual fact Mt Smart is a really good rugby league stadium.

Wayne Walker, Albany: "The figures that RFA are putting about appear to be contrived. The cost of keeping the Warriors at Mt Smart is nowhere near the $70 million put up by RFA. And I don't believe that cost being put about for the changes to Western Springs are accurate. It would cost considerably more that [$12 million]."

Dr Cathy Casey, Albert-Eden-Roskill: "I have never supported the stadium strategy. I have been really concerned since it was first mooted. It seems to have taken a life of its own well outside of council. I don't think there is any control being exerted by the elected members."

Mike Lee, Waitemata and Gulf: "I have a very strong impression these people [RFA] are out of their depth. Most Aucklanders want to see the Warriors remain at Mt Smart. It is a pretty dumb conclusion. I don't agree with it."


Uncommitted/need more information


Len Brown (Mayor): "People need to pause, consider all the issues and involve themselves in the very long discussion Aucklanders are about to have as part of the 10-year-budget process. No final decisions have been made, and we are many months away from reaching that stage."

Sharon Stewart, Howick: "People who live in my community who follow the Warriors are quite happy to go to [Mt Smart]. I'd like to sit down and talk it over with my fellow councillors about what exactly is being proposed because we really don't know."

Dick Quax, Howick: "I was very surprised when I heard that the Warriors were being told they had to go to North Harbour Stadium. That was the fist I'd ever heard of that. This figure of $60 to $70 million for an upgrade of Mt Smart is pie in the sky stuff."

Alf Filipaina, Manukau: "My understanding is that the $70 million [to upgrade Mt Smart] is wrong. I'd rather find out and then end up deciding."

Calum Penrose, Manurewa-Papakura: "What I support is that there is more work required. Are the ratepayers prepared to keep putting a million dollars a year into a private company, the Warriors? Those are the questions that need to be asked and answered by the people of Auckland."

Cameron Brewer, Orakei: "I'm generally supportive of the stadium strategy but I am concerned ratepayers may have to fund a nasty legal fight against the Warriors if this whole Mt Smart issue is not handled well. I want to know the real cost of keeping the Warriors at Mt Smart because noone believes its going to take $70m."


Did not respond to calls and emails


Sir John Walker, Manurewa-Papakura

Chris Darby, North Shore

Hon Christine Fletcher, Albert-Eden-Roskill

Bill Cashmore, Franklin

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11333627
 

JoeD

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Its pleasing that it seems the warriors are not going to go down without a fight.
 

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Wellington City Council has made a play to relocate the Auckland-based New Zealand Warriors to Westpac Stadium.

At the very least the council wants to become an "affiliated city" to the club and have three Warriors games in the capital each season, as opposed to one-off games which happened in each of the past two seasons.

Both those Warriors games generated an estimated new spend from out-of-towners of $3 million on things such as accommodation, meals and drinks.

The opportunity to relocate the country's only NRL club to the capital comes as Auckland Council tries to force the Warriors out of their Mt Smart home at the end of 2018 and have them move to either Eden Park or QBE Stadium, in Albany.

The Warriors do not want to move and the dispute has escalated into a bitter war of words.

Wellington Mayor Celia Wade-Brown was fully supportive of welcoming the Warriors but said the project was being driven by her deputy Justin Lester.

Lester said initial contact was made with the Warriors this week.

"If they can't work it out with Mt Smart and they don't have a home to go to in Auckland then we want them to relocate down here."

Warriors chairman Bill Wavish said they had been invited to Wellington to hear a presentation from the council.

"It's non-specific in what it might include and as far as we're concerned we will listen."

He said the Warriors board would need to confirm their attendance at the meeting, which would likely take place after the club's new chief executive, Jim Doyle, started on November 10.

Lester said there was huge support for the Warriors in central New Zealand, including the top of the South Island.

"In 2013 against the Bulldogs 32,000 people turned up [at Westpac Stadium]. It didn't cost the city a thing and we got huge economic benefit out of it.

"Against the Tigers, who were a pretty poor outfit this year, and weather-wise it was poor, 18,500 turned up."

Westpac Stadium's chief operating officer, Linda Rieper, said the stadium had a good record of hosting league games.

"We have hosted a Warriors home game here in the last two NRL seasons and those events went very well. Previously, the stadium also hosted a number of Bulldogs home games with good support.

"We look forward to continue hosting games on a regular basis."

The council uses its Downtown Levy-funded events fund to attract big events to the city. Lester said that was not the case when the Warriors come to town.

"They come because they can make a fist of it themselves."

Lester said a precedent already existed for a sports club to successfully switch allegiance from Auckland to Wellington.

"The Phoenix used to be based there and it didn't work out. So we want to see the level of interest to relocate the Warriors."

The Phoenix rose from the ashes of the New Zealand Knights, who struggled to attract fans to its North Harbour Stadium home.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/10600019/Capital-makes-play-for-New-Zealand-Warriors
 

sup42

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I'm thrilled Wellington has weighed in and i hope the Warriors take that offer seriously ( not because I want them to move but if they do Wellington leaves EP and QBE for dead.
 

WellsNZ

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There's no way they'll end up in Wellington imo.

and sorry to the folk down in Welly, but I hate the idea of more games going down there as well. I want more consistency from the Warriors across the board, consistency in where they actually play the games is part of that.
 

playdaball

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I drove out West recently and forgot that there is a speedway track out at Rosebank Rd - why don't they develop that instaed of moving to Mt Smart?

Also saw Jack Colvin Park - they've cut down the trees and got rid of the bank - looks 'naked' now.
 

reykaine

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/10634212/North-shift-for-Warriors-the-wrong-move

There's a long sad record of Auckland politicians getting it wrong in Auckland.
I believe they're doing it again with the Warriors and Mt Smart.
Look at the record of how Auckland's leaders from all sides of the political spectrum have bungled big issues.
Go back to 1959 and the harbour bridge. The civic leaders were warned four lanes would not be enough. By the time the bridge opened it was already outdated. Small thinking.
Look at the losing battle mayor Dove-Myer Robinson fought for a light rail transit system in the 1960s. How much would Aucklanders give for a decent public transport system now? Small thinking.
Look at the chance that was missed to build a great national stadium alongside the Vector Arena. Instead the old railway land is filled with cheap, ugly blocks of student flats. Small thinking.
By contrast, look at what happens when minds are opened, and some imagination is applied.
To my shame I was one who doubted the America's Cup would do much to improve the Viaduct Basin.

Having worked for 10 years at Radio Hauraki in Caltex House to 1992, I was very familiar with the area. You needed a pretty strong stomach to look into the basin, which was then a toxic mix of oily water, plastic bags, rotting driftwood and dead seagulls.
The Auckland waterfront in the central city in general was crap. Nobody in their right mind would go there for fun in daylight, much less at night.
Look at Viaduct Basin (now called Viaduct Harbour) today, one of the busiest, most entertaining parts of the city.
As it happens, it was sport, in this case yachting, that provided the push to turn a dump into a jewel.

I don't see any sign of similar enlightened thinking in the push to drive the Warriors out of Mt Smart into either Eden Park or, God forbid, North Harbour Stadium.
This goes beyond being small minded. It lurches into the flat-out stupid corner.
History shows that in a bureaucracy if there are enough consultants, reports and in-house meetings you can eventually provide living proof of the saying that a giraffe is a horse designed by a committee.

I've just spent seven years living on the Shore, and can vouch for the fact "North Shore league fan" is as much of an oxymoron as "humble Australian".
The heart of league in Auckland beats mostly in the south and to force fans from Manurewa to trek to Albany to see the Warriors signals that the people at Regional Facilities Auckland either have no idea about how the city works or, for some strange, vindictive reason, want to punish the club and its fans.

Eden Park? I love the ground, but I'm a rugby tragic, and personal memories overwhelm the fact that not only is it much too big for anything other than a rugby test or the league nines, but also that it's not even a real football ground. It's a cricket oval with a footy ground in the middle.
Put 15,000, even 20,000, people in Eden Park and there's about as much atmosphere as a senior citizens' indoor bowls club night.
Ideally we should have a stadium near the middle of the city for all football codes - rugby, league and soccer.

The chance to build one near the Vector Arena has probably gone, but there are suggestions land at the Tank Farm further along the waterfront could be used.
How great would a national football stadium, one that seats between 50,000 and 60,000, be there?
(By the way, the difference between a rectangular stadium and Eden Park is that when you have 15,000 people in a much larger, but true football ground you fill the first 30 rows all round the park. Voila, an intimate arena.)
I'm worried that concept will be too big for the politicians to grasp. Small minds think small.
But in the meantime, at least have the grace to work out a compromise with the Warriors and let them stay at Mt Smart.
It may not be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternatives being suggested.
 

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/10634212/North-shift-for-Warriors-the-wrong-move

There's a long sad record of Auckland politicians getting it wrong in Auckland.
I believe they're doing it again with the Warriors and Mt Smart.
Look at the record of how Auckland's leaders from all sides of the political spectrum have bungled big issues.
Go back to 1959 and the harbour bridge. The civic leaders were warned four lanes would not be enough. By the time the bridge opened it was already outdated. Small thinking.
Look at the losing battle mayor Dove-Myer Robinson fought for a light rail transit system in the 1960s. How much would Aucklanders give for a decent public transport system now? Small thinking.
Look at the chance that was missed to build a great national stadium alongside the Vector Arena. Instead the old railway land is filled with cheap, ugly blocks of student flats. Small thinking.
By contrast, look at what happens when minds are opened, and some imagination is applied.
To my shame I was one who doubted the America's Cup would do much to improve the Viaduct Basin.

Having worked for 10 years at Radio Hauraki in Caltex House to 1992, I was very familiar with the area. You needed a pretty strong stomach to look into the basin, which was then a toxic mix of oily water, plastic bags, rotting driftwood and dead seagulls.
The Auckland waterfront in the central city in general was crap. Nobody in their right mind would go there for fun in daylight, much less at night.
Look at Viaduct Basin (now called Viaduct Harbour) today, one of the busiest, most entertaining parts of the city.
As it happens, it was sport, in this case yachting, that provided the push to turn a dump into a jewel.

I don't see any sign of similar enlightened thinking in the push to drive the Warriors out of Mt Smart into either Eden Park or, God forbid, North Harbour Stadium.
This goes beyond being small minded. It lurches into the flat-out stupid corner.
History shows that in a bureaucracy if there are enough consultants, reports and in-house meetings you can eventually provide living proof of the saying that a giraffe is a horse designed by a committee.

I've just spent seven years living on the Shore, and can vouch for the fact "North Shore league fan" is as much of an oxymoron as "humble Australian".
The heart of league in Auckland beats mostly in the south and to force fans from Manurewa to trek to Albany to see the Warriors signals that the people at Regional Facilities Auckland either have no idea about how the city works or, for some strange, vindictive reason, want to punish the club and its fans.

Eden Park? I love the ground, but I'm a rugby tragic, and personal memories overwhelm the fact that not only is it much too big for anything other than a rugby test or the league nines, but also that it's not even a real football ground. It's a cricket oval with a footy ground in the middle.
Put 15,000, even 20,000, people in Eden Park and there's about as much atmosphere as a senior citizens' indoor bowls club night.
Ideally we should have a stadium near the middle of the city for all football codes - rugby, league and soccer.

The chance to build one near the Vector Arena has probably gone, but there are suggestions land at the Tank Farm further along the waterfront could be used.
How great would a national football stadium, one that seats between 50,000 and 60,000, be there?
(By the way, the difference between a rectangular stadium and Eden Park is that when you have 15,000 people in a much larger, but true football ground you fill the first 30 rows all round the park. Voila, an intimate arena.)
I'm worried that concept will be too big for the politicians to grasp. Small minds think small.
But in the meantime, at least have the grace to work out a compromise with the Warriors and let them stay at Mt Smart.
It may not be perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than the alternatives being suggested.

Spot on. (Except the part about senior citizen's indoor bowls nights having no atmosphere.)
 

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Yeo, agree too, except personally I hate the idea of a stadium on the waterfront (Imagine Sydney with their Olympic Stadium where the Opera House is, or in Darling Harbour)... more generally, I don't think the solution is another stadium. And I'd hardly describe Eden Park as a cricket oval, it's woefully inadequate for cricket

While I love sport, stadiums become tired and shit very quickly - and they are ugly from the get-go - our waterfront is beautiful, and we should make use of it in other ways...
 

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Having just returned from the South Island (where league seems more popular than ever) it's surprising that the Warriors (or one of their opponents) haven't taken a home game to that flash indoor stadium in Dunedin.

The late June fixture v the Raiders would have been a likely candidate, how many people would be expected to rock up to Mt Smart on a cold (possibly wet) Saturday night for that one?

As opposed to a lively, special event Dunedin crowd made up of students, dedicated big game-starved league fans, and the usual casual fans who always turn up on these occasions?
 

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Yeo, agree too, except personally I hate the idea of a stadium on the waterfront (Imagine Sydney with their Olympic Stadium where the Opera House is, or in Darling Harbour)... more generally, I don't think the solution is another stadium. And I'd hardly describe Eden Park as a cricket oval, it's woefully inadequate for cricket

While I love sport, stadiums become tired and shit very quickly - and they are ugly from the get-go - our waterfront is beautiful, and we should make use of it in other ways...

A stadium doesn't need to be on the waterfront, but it should be near transport, bars, restaurants and other entertainment facilities. Generally the only places with enough space available to build such things are industrial type land and the only spaces of that type in suitable locations in Auckland are near the waterfront.
As for stadiums becoming a bit tired and shit- it's certainly no worse than just building blocks of apartments, which seems to be the alternative.

If the Sydney Olympic Stadium had been developed for example at White Bay or Barangaroo (both waterfront areas adjacent to the Sydney CBD), it would have worked a lot better than the current setup which is a sterile cluster of sports facilities miles from anything else.
 
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spear tackle

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Have you tried catching public transport from South Auckland to Albany?

I think the issue would be public transport from South Auckland to Britiomart as the Britomart to Albany service is the best I've ever used leaves every ten minutes and doubles up in peak hour traffic and tends to be just as fast or even quicker than driving. Would only be a 5 minute walk to the stadium.
 

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