Eelementary
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I never said I want him back unconditionally.
ParraAds said:we'll have to wait and see what happens.
Eelementary said:I never said I want him back unconditionally.
ParraAds said:we'll have to wait and see what happens.
fish eel said:so you'll stick around and celebrate a souless grand final victory with Lyon winning the Churchill medal then?
fish eel said:doesnt matter, why let a fact get in the way of a bit of amateur p!ss talking vitriol :lol:
Hollywood Jesus said:Nope. I'll stick around and celebrate the fact that a bunch of people persevered through our tough times, held fast and managed to fight their way back to a Premiership. Then, IF Lyon wins the Churchill Medal I'll boo him til I'm hoarse and thumb my nose at him when he does his lap
strider said:can anyone say "willie tonga" .... pretty damn likely willie would have been #1 parra centre had jamie done his thing 6 months earlier instead of cashing in and then bolting
bartman said:What we are also forgetting is that he kind of went with the club's blessing. Our club allowed him to play at Wee Waa, while still controlling his contract. Our club allowed him to play at St Helens, while still controlling his contract. Even though he dropped his bundle with the Eels after R1 2004, he is still actually a Parramatta player until June 30.
Only a few people will know what really went down in the lead up to him initially asking for and being granted time off by the club, only to not come back and play. I'm sure there would have been more to it than we know through the media hype, and the focus with stories on Crusher and Manly. In fact if you look at the timing of his departure and his mooted possible return, it's easy to see one common denominator there... If you want an apology/explanation from Jamie he may not be able to give it until after this season, for example if it happened to involve a more senior employee of the club?
Anyway, my point is while it's patently true he could have handled whatever happened better, and he does have some massive bridges to mend with the teammates he left behind and the club who (still) employs/controls him, if he does resolve things with those parties for 2007, then as fans we have to just say OK, as it's those players and the club that have a much better idea than we or the media of what actually went down at the time of R1 2004 and was behind all of this.
Fair enough the extra respect for people that stuck around and through tough times, but maybe it was a issue just about Jamie that wasn't relevant to anyone else, so the comparison isn't at issue? And just maybe it was a situation where Jamie wasn't the biggest snotface involved, just that the details of it have never surfaced publicly? If players, coaching staff and officially who will still be with the club in 2007 don't have a problem with it, then why do we as fans need to carry it on?
ParraDude_Jay said:HJ, give up mate. You're lecturing on something you don't know anything about. You have no f**king idea why Lyon left, and here you are judging him.
bartman said:What we are also forgetting is that he kind of went with the club's blessing. Our club allowed him to play at Wee Waa, while still controlling his contract. Our club allowed him to play at St Helens, while still controlling his contract. Even though he dropped his bundle with the Eels after R1 2004, he is still actually a Parramatta player until June 30.
If you want an apology/explanation from Jamie he may not be able to give it until after this season, for example if it happened to involve a more senior employee of the club?
damo72 said:Finally, someone with a valid point and someone who doesn't think they are better than the rest of us because we don't agree with them.
Well done Bartman
yy_cheng said:So if you had a best mate. He has been married for 3 years and is feeling unconfortable with his marriage. He walks out and leaves his wife, and possibly kids behind, now, would you stand by your mate?
Suitman said:.
He owes us, the fans, nothing. And if anyone is suggesting otherwise, they are placing far more importance on their own stature than is worthy.
Suity
Tyler Durden said:bartman, you are so getting a big hug !
jamie was the unlucky bugger that got caught in the crossfire between certain members of the club at that time. most will be gone when 07 rolls around.
i think that it also shows the maturity of jamie now to even think about coming back to parra. could easily wait out until jul 1 and have a lot of other clubs tripping over to sign him up.
ParraDude_Jay said:I'm pretty sure Tonga was offered another deal. I'm sure you remember who was partnering Lyon in the centres in his last game for us.. there was definitely a position there for him if he wanted it.
Hollywood Jesus said:no, but I'm not gonna turn my back on those blokes who have hung around through the tough times just because of one little snotface.
i won't sell out, despite the fact you might wanna dress it up that way so you can have an excuse to turn a blind eye to your own sell-outing-ness (hehe).
look, you know i'm right, but in order to admit it you might have to actually grow a backbone and push away the instant gratification for something that is deeper and more fulfilling. i know that's hard for people in today's society to do, but that's one of the great things about me - i continually show people like you how far you have fallen and why the likes of you are lesser men than me.
deal with it or not, it doesn't change the facts.
(surprisingly many saying this hate brian smith but still think you can support parra while he's here - go figure).