New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

Rugby League Park - Wikipedia

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Says it’s owned by the Canterbury rugby league

so could a potential bid be joint owned by the crl and the team based there. A new club owning its own ground would be a huge advantage

 

[BuffaloRules]

The ARLC would have to fit the travel expenses of flying players from Perth to the east coast. It would be a significant burden on the game.

The "time zone" factor might be of interest to Foxtel, but it is a hindrance to Ch9. Perth cannot host a game on Thursday or Friday night. The only Ch9 timeslot it could host is Sunday afternoon, which is 2pm AWST. Sponsors will spend less money on a team that is buried on Foxtel.

Players from Queensland, NSW and NZ will always choose to play for a club from the east coast over one from Perth unless they're paid overs.

They need a new time slot to for the 9th game … so it’s more than likely going to be Sunday night where there is no games now outside the first month of the year…

Why does it have to be on Channel 9 as the FTA ? Maybe they could sell it as a stand alone to Channel 10?

If the 9th game is on a 6pm Sunday night Eastern…in the middle of winter on a freezing cold dewy night in Sydney…then having the option to play in Perth half the time in the daylight seems appealing to me…

 

[Matua]

The fans will come from Auckland as the team is based in Auckland. We've both agreed there's no reason we can't grow the sport which involves pulling in some new fans. Are you obtuse on purpose?

Hilariously accusing me of what you're doing. The simple fact is claiming the fans will come from Auckland is bollocks without details, and you're just doing all you can to avoid providing any because you have no real understanding of the city and the sport in the city.

 

[Gobsmacked]

They need a new time slot to for the 9th game … so it’s more than likely going to be Sunday night where there is no games now outside the first month of the year…

Why does it have to be on Channel 9 as the FTA ? Maybe they could sell it as a stand alone to Channel 10?

If the 9th game is on a 6pm Sunday night Eastern…in the middle of winter on a freezing cold dewy night in Sydney…then having the option to play in Perth half the time in the daylight seems appealing to me…

This time slot angle is nonsense really.
1: a perth team only have home games half the time
2: we can't 1 team into a timeslot for the whole year because it's unfair, so out of the 9 timeslot maximum we could lock a team into would around 4 or 5 so they have an opportunity to play Friday night games ect.

So new timeslot is only 4 weeks of 26.

They would need the chance to play a Friday night game and a Saturday night game and on those occasions would be a disastrous 10pm eastern!

Very weak reason to include a team.

On the other case, NZ .. opens up more timeslots like prime time in nz 8pm Friday night fills the dreaded timeslot for Australian clubs at 6pm
The same for Saturday night and on a Sunday afternoon in nz 4pm, fills the 2pm slot.

The new timeslot of 6pm Sunday be filled by anyone any week. Doesn't need Perth to do that lol

 

[Matua]

Rugby League Park - Wikipedia

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Says it’s owned by the Canterbury rugby league

so could a potential bid be joint owned by the crl and the team based there. A new club owning its own ground would be a huge advantage

Much of the ground is temporary, it would need a decent amount of work if they use it as a permanent ground.

Plus, assuming the new ground is for shared use it would make more sense to be in the newly developed city than out at Addington.

 

[BuffaloRules]

This time slot angle is nonsense really.
1: a perth team only have home games half the time
2: we can't 1 team into a timeslot for the whole year because it's unfair, so out of the 9 timeslot maximum we could lock a team into would around 4 or 5 so they have an opportunity to play Friday night games ect.

So new timeslot is only 4 weeks of 26.

They would need the chance to play a Friday night game and a Saturday night game and on those occasions would be a disastrous 10pm eastern!

Very weak reason to include a team.

On the other case, NZ .. opens up more timeslots like prime time in nz 8pm Friday night fills the dreaded timeslot for Australian clubs at 6pm
The same for Saturday night and on a Sunday afternoon in nz 4pm, fills the 2pm slot.

The new timeslot of 6pm Sunday be filled by anyone any week. Doesn't need Perth to do that lol

its not nonsense because you have a different opinion…

They won’t be in the game every week because they don’t play at home every week…

It would probably be around 8 games a year so about a third of the time…

they need to play a game at this time, and watching game in the daylight as opposed to another night game on a shitty winters night on the East Coast appeals

East Coast teams will dislike playing home games at this time, same as they dislike the “dreaded 6pm Friday game “…

 

[Gobsmacked]

its not nonsense because you have a different opinion…

They won’t be in the game every week because they don’t play at home every week…

It would probably be around 8 games a year so about a third of the time…

they need to play a game at this time, and watching game in the daylight as opposed to another night game on a shitty winters night on the East Coast appeals

East Coast teams will dislike playing home games at this time, same as they dislike the “dreaded 6pm Friday game “…

Ok, just ignore all the facts

 

[Colk]

Ok, just ignore all the facts

I think you’re confusing opinion with facts. You sound as biased as Perth Red is or GROTD with another Brisbane team and frankly it is becoming boring.

Either option is going to open some flexibility with timeslots and help with shifting unfavourable times for east coast sides. Sunday 6pm is awful for crowds/ attendance to games on the east coast; same as it is awful for teams on Friday 6pm.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Much of the ground is temporary, it would need a decent amount of work if they use it as a permanent ground.

Plus, assuming the new ground is for shared use it would make more sense to be in the newly developed city than out at Addington.

Agreed but Addington is only a 15 minute walk from the city.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Rugby League Park - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Says it’s owned by the Canterbury rugby league

so could a potential bid be joint owned by the crl and the team based there. A new club owning its own ground would be a huge advantage

Pretty sure they don't currently own it. Bit hazy on the details, but can remember an interview with Frank Endacott which included the line, "And we never got it back". This was a reference to deals and arrangements made after the earthquake.

Nga Puna Wai is now the base for Canterbury RL. They no longer play their GF at Rugby League Park.

 

[Perth Red]

Pretty sure they don't currently own it. Bit hazy on the details, but can remember an interview with Frank Endacott which included the line, "And we never got it back". This was a reference to deals and arrangements made after the earthquake.

Nga Puna Wai is now the base for Canterbury RL. They no longer play their GF at Rugby League Park.

Wasnt it rebuilt out of temporary scaffolding and roofing whilst the new stadium is built? Why in earth would you play there over the new stadium?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They need a new time slot to for the 9th game … so it’s more than likely going to be Sunday night where there is no games now outside the first month of the year…

Why does it have to be on Channel 9 as the FTA ? Maybe they could sell it as a stand alone to Channel 10?

If the 9th game is on a 6pm Sunday night Eastern…in the middle of winter on a freezing cold dewy night in Sydney…then having the option to play in Perth half the time in the daylight seems appealing to me…

I read somewhere that none of the major codes will sign with Ch10/Paramount because a) its audience share is low and b) they're worried about not getting saturation coverage within the Ch9 and News Ltd print media publications.

Ch10/Paramount bid for AFL and cricket. They put in strong bids. Both codes turned them down.

Ch7 won't have the money to bid. They've got AFL and cricket.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

its not nonsense because you have a different opinion…

They won’t be in the game every week because they don’t play at home every week…

It would probably be around 8 games a year so about a third of the time…

they need to play a game at this time, and watching game in the daylight as opposed to another night game on a shitty winters night on the East Coast appeals

East Coast teams will dislike playing home games at this time, same as they dislike the “dreaded 6pm Friday game “…

A PNG team could host a game in this time slot.

So could the Cowboys.

Other teams could take games to Darwin, Cairns, Mackay and Rockhampton.

The Eagles and Dockers only played 9 times in this slot in 2023. That's an average of 4.5 games per club.

 

[Perth Red]

I read somewhere that none of the major codes will sign with Ch10/Paramount because a) its audience share is low and b) they're worried about not getting saturation coverage within the Ch9 and News Ltd print media publications.

Ch10/Paramount bid for AFL and cricket. They put in strong bids. Both codes turned them down.

Ch7 won't have the money to bid. They've got AFL and cricket.

We dont need to, we just need them to bid big.
However I can guarantee if the nrl rights were on market now and ch10 bid $600mill they were alleged to have bid for afl and ch9/fox bid the current $370mill they ended up paying we would bite ch10’s hand off!

 

[Canard]

I read somewhere that none of the major codes will sign with Ch10/Paramount because a) its audience share is low and b) they're worried about not getting saturation coverage within the Ch9 and News Ltd print media publications.

Ch10/Paramount bid for AFL and cricket. They put in strong bids. Both codes turned them down.

Ch7 won't have the money to bid. They've got AFL and cricket.

Having traditional media covering your game (particular print media) just won't be an issue from 2028 onwards.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Wasnt it rebuilt out of temporary scaffolding and roofing whilst the new stadium is built? Why in earth would you play there over the new stadium?

No idea on the second question.

My point was that CRL don't own RL Park. I think the stadium where Crusaders played was irreparably damaged in the earthquake. A deal was done for them to play at a patched-up RL Park. And they were given priority because Union is the bigger code. Which eventually led the council to find a new home for League at Nga Puna Wai.

 

[BuffaloRules]

I read somewhere that none of the major codes will sign with Ch10/Paramount because a) its audience share is low and b) they're worried about not getting saturation coverage within the Ch9 and News Ltd print media publications.

Ch10/Paramount bid for AFL and cricket. They put in strong bids. Both codes turned them down.

Ch7 won't have the money to bid. They've got AFL and cricket.

You were the one saying initially that the Sunday 6pm game doesn’t suit Nine… so i’m saying sell that game to 10 if 9 don’t want it… bit of a difference between one game and moving over all the rights like cricket and AFL bids previously…

You better hope someone else bids.., otherwise Nine will lowball them again … probably meaning no expansion …at least Nine goes through the charade of bidding for the AFL and forcing up the price 7 pays

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You were the one saying initially that the Sunday 6pm game doesn’t suit Nine… so i’m saying sell that game to 10 if 9 don’t want it… bit of a difference between one game and moving over all the rights like cricket and AFL bids previously…

Ch9 will never allow it and Foxtel will want exclusivity. Only three games per round are protected by the anti-siphoning list. Ch9 air their three games on Thurs/Fri 8pm and Sun 4pm.

You better hope someone else bids.., otherwise Nine will lowball them again … probably meaning no expansion …at least Nine goes through the charade of bidding for the AFL and forcing up the price 7 pays

The most likely scenario is for Ch9 to keep the FTA component with Foxtel broadcasting everything live bar the GF and Origin. The only other realistic option is Ch9/STAN bid for everything.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Ch9 will never allow it and Foxtel will want exclusivity. Only three games per round are protected by the anti-siphoning list. Ch9 air their three games on Thurs/Fri 8pm and Sun 4pm.



The most likely scenario is for Ch9 to keep the FTA component with Foxtel broadcasting everything live bar the GF and Origin. The only other realistic option is Ch9/STAN bid for everything.

There are several weeks of the year where Nine shows the Sat night game in addition to the other three … FTA can bid for and show games they like… the AFL don’t seem to be hindered by this,,,

Foxtel can pay for the exclusive rights if they outbid 10…

Dont talk to me about ”most likely scenarios”… we are still a couple of years away from the negotiations… things dont necessarily stay the same..

The NRL need to maximise their TV money this tiime if they want to fund another three teams

 

[Gobsmacked]

There are several weeks of the year where Nine shows the Sat night game in addition to the other three … FTA can bid for and show games they like… the AFL don’t seem to be hindered by this,,,

Foxtel can pay for the exclusive rights if they outbid 10…

Dont talk to me about ”most likely scenarios”… we are still a couple of years away from the negotiations… things dont necessarily stay the same..

The NRL need to maximise their TV money this tiime if they want to fund another three teams

Ok Perth red.

Get a life.