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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Maximus

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Well put it this way. The Warriors game was never moving because they are the biggest club team in NZ 👌 "Super" Rugby had to bow to us as they are the inferior product.

We've crushed them in QLD and NSW, we've crushed them in Victoria. Next we will crush them in WA and NZ.

So what you are saying is that afl is bigger than nrl in Brisbane right? The NRL moved its 1v4 final last year to accommodate the Lions playing at home.
 

Matiunz

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The ARL Commission wants the Bears back in the big league as part of a push for North Sydney to join forces with Perth, despite the WA bid team’s preference to set up a stand-alone club. WA bid boss Peter Cumins said they are willing to compromise to get a team approved, but made clear the mixed marriage of Perth and a foundation club raised concerns. “We are very parochial in Western Australia and, with due respect, the history of the Newtown Jets or North Sydney Bears doesn’t carry a lot of weight in Perth,” Cumins said. The Perth Bears are the preferred candidate for an NRL licence, with North Sydney just 10 days away from learning their fate as part of the ARL Commission’s expansion masterplan. WA bid powerbrokers will hold talks with North Sydney and Newtown Jets chiefs in the next two weeks to satisfy any ARLC demands.

North Sydney was axed from the premiership in 1999, but if ARLC chair Peter V’landys gets support, the Bears will be back as an NRL force in 2027 or 2028. V’landys will preside over a board meeting on Wednesday week – the day of Origin II – that shapes as one of the most historic conventions in the code’s 116-year history. At that meeting, the ARLC board will mull over an expansion document which is likely to result in a call for three new franchises. Following the meeting, the Commission is expected to call for expressions of interest from consortiums bidding to be part of a 20-team league, with their introduction to be staggered in the lead up to the 2032 Brisbane Olympics. The existing 17 clubs will be included in the expansion process – and rewarded with extra grants totalling at least $60 million. Western Australia is now the frontrunner to oust Papua New Guinea and be the NRL’s 18th team by 2027.

V’landys is keen for North Sydney to form a strategic alliance to launch the Perth Bears. The ARL Commission’s June 26 meeting could see an 18th NRL team named for 2027, followed by a 19th franchise 12 months later. Cumins believes the code’s most aggressive expansion drive since Super League is imminent. “I do get a sense that there will be an announcement in June and it will be expansion (is going ahead),” Cumins said. “I think Perth will be included, whether we’re the 18th, 19th or 20th team, for us it doesn’t matter, as long as we know we will be back in the game. “They are talking 2027 (for the 18th team), so that’s not far away and we’ll have to get cracking.

“There has been a lot of talk about a marriage with the North Sydney Bears and the Jets has popped up as another option for us. “We think we can do it on our own.” It is understood there are concerns over Perth’s grassroots, supporter base and development pathways. The WA bid consortium will be advised to join forces with the Bears, a foundation Sydney club with a latent supporter base, plus established junior and senior structures, to secure NRL admission. Under the plan, there is scope for the Newtown Jets to broker a feeder-club arrangement, giving the Bluebags second-tier links to a Perth Bears NRL franchise. The Newtown Jets and North Sydney Bears squared off in the NSW Cup at Henson Park on Saturday ahead of their respective meetings with Perth bid bosses. Cumins said he has not received a formal directive from the ARL Commission to merge with the Bears, but Perth will do so if it means entering the NRL. “We’re led to believe at the moment it won’t be a condition (to secure an NRL licence), but that’s not set in stone,” he said. “If it was a condition, well we are desperate to have a team in Perth and we would make the Perth Bears a success. “If it’s not a condition, we would have to consider what the Bears or the Jets would bring to an NRL franchise in Perth. “It’s got to be more than just a logo and a name that has no relevance in Perth. “I will meet with both clubs at the end of June and hopefully they put a compelling case forward to satisfy everybody.”

North Sydney chairman Daniel Dickson believes the Perth Bears can be a smash hit as the NRL’s 18th or 19th club. “This is by no means a takeover plan from us,” he said. “This can be a two-city team. “The game has been speaking favourably about the Bears and its history and we think this is a wonderful marriage to bring a state like Western Australia into the game, combining it with the rich history of the Bears.

“If the NRL desires a team to be housed in Perth, that’s fine by us – we took the name ‘North Sydney’ out two years ago in order for the game to position the Bears in the right place. “The Perth Bears is the perfect marriage.”
 

Wb1234

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Perth looking like the first cab off the rank but it also seems to indicate the 3 licenses will be decided for a staggered entry?
Yes

png then nz2

beisbane has been ruled out for any more teams right now as that just leaves nz2 for the 3rd license

the order might change around but it’s those 3 places

Perth 2027 others over the next five years or sooner
 

final say

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Yes

png then nz2

beisbane has been ruled out for any more teams right now as that just leaves nz2 for the 3rd license

the order might change around but it’s those 3 places

Perth 2027 others over the next five years or sooner
You need to check your expectations on PNG . It's far from a done deal. The latest was concerns from Abdo that they need to be competitive...
There's lots that needs to be done!
What needs to be done:
*Government funding contract signed
* tax concessions agreed and signed
* salary cap exemptions agreed to by clubs
* security deal reached
* Compound built

It's literally 10 years away.
 

Wb1234

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You need to check your expectations on PNG . It's far from a done deal. The latest was concerns from Abdo that they need to be competitive...
There's lots that needs to be done!
What needs to be done:
*Government funding contract signed
* tax concessions agreed and signed
* salary cap exemptions agreed to by clubs
* security deal reached
* Compound built

It's literally 10 years away.
Nope

2029 is the most likely date instead of the expected 2027

all will be revealed shortly anyway

just don’t sook if nz2 is the last one in
 

Brian potter

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You need to check your expectations on PNG . It's far from a done deal. The latest was concerns from Abdo that they need to be competitive...
There's lots that needs to be done!
What needs to be done:
*Government funding contract signed
* tax concessions agreed and signed
* salary cap exemptions agreed to by clubs
* security deal reached
* Compound built

It's literally 10 years away.
PNG need to be team #21
 

final say

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Nope

2029 is the most likely date instead of the expected 2027

all will be revealed shortly anyway

just don’t sook if nz2 is the last one in
I won't sook but the game will have missed the biggest and most obvious advance in it's history.
NZ south island 2026 - that is the most blindingly obvious home run this century.
I'm 95% certain that this is the outcome, so don't sook when PNG get the flick.
 
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You need to check your expectations on PNG . It's far from a done deal. The latest was concerns from Abdo that they need to be competitive...
There's lots that needs to be done!
What needs to be done:
*Government funding contract signed
* tax concessions agreed and signed
* salary cap exemptions agreed to by clubs
* security deal reached
* Compound built

It's literally 10 years away.
I suspect Perth, Christchurch and Brisbane Tigers will be the three teams. The 17 clubs are demanding more than Labor can provide.

I don't take much notice of V'landys' rhetoric. He likes to talk shit to generate headlines.

Remember when he talked up Pasifka @ Cairns and Melbourne 2?

The dope from Penrith fell for that one hook, line and sinker.

Albo and V'landys can posture all the like. It won't change the fact no one will want to live in Port Moresby. Nor will it endear the game's commercial partners to the proposal.
 

final say

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I suspect Perth, Christchurch and Brisbane Tigers will be the three teams. The 17 clubs are demanding more than Labor can provide.

I don't take much notice of V'landys' rhetoric. He likes to talk shit to generate headlines.

Remember when he talked up Pasifka @ Cairns and Melbourne 2?

The dope from Penrith fell for that one hook, line and sinker.

Albo and V'landys can posture all the like. It won't change the fact no one will want to live in Port Moresby. Nor will it endear the game's commercial partners to the proposal.
He doesn't talk shit at all. If you want something to grow, you plant a seed. If you want to be certain of it, plant lots! He's planted lots and some of those seedlings are looking healthy.. almost too healthy ( south island nz) , some are needing a lot of work to keep alive ( PNG ) , some are growing slowly and steadily ( the Bears in Perth) and some never sprouted at all ( Pasifika and Melbourne 2)
As for your hopes for Brisbane 3? He hasn't planted anything...why? Because we dedicated to a healthy Brisbane 2.
NZ 2 18
Perth 19
20 ???
I think those 2 will get the nod or maybe just 1 and a lot of time to pass and garden to tend to before we are looking at team 20.
Maybe NZ shows great fruit or Brisbane or PNG gets it together or Melbourne, Sunshine Coast..
 

Brian potter

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I won't sook but the game will have missed the biggest and most obvious advance in it's history.
NZ south island 2026 - that is the most blindingly obvious home run this century.
I'm 95% certain that this is the outcome, so don't sook when PNG get the flick.
Regarding NZ2 as a Christchurch based South Island bid if not now, when?

what more could NZ2 do or have to do to make it happen?
 

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