organised crime and juice of the elephant pt V

[madunit]

talking about what?

the whole Essendon saga

 

[muzby]

what essendon saga?



f**kin' hot today, isn't it?

 

[madunit]

Wasn't sure if you were serious or taking the piss.

now I feel foolish

 

[sensesmaybenumbed]

That muzby. What a bounder and a cad.

 

[HayneKloppter]

How Cronulla and the NRL got it right as opposed to Essendon and AFL

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tal...y-different-fate/story-e6frf3e3-1227706109313

because cronulla is broke and the nrl weren't prepared to put it's brand in front of the club's. lesson learnt is that being broke as a joke does have some benefits

the AFL now has to lie in the bed that it made

 

[Desert Qlder]

Excellent interview this:

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/wada-bos...-to-follow-us-ditch-code-20160112-gm4kbq.html

 

[JamesRustle]

Not sure why one's place of residence should condemn them to no comment.
What a stupid thing to say.

Suity

I was responding to a facetious post (#913 that I already quoted), essentially pointing out that it is a stupid thing to say you are precluded from commenting on the drug cheating scandal if you are a Cronulla supporter.

The subtle nature of my post seems to have eluded you... or you live in some backwater and took offence? do you reside in TAS or NZ?

 

[Jubileeboy]

Remember at the time of the Sharks accepting the deal there were some on here screaming about the Sharks being dudded, how the should of fought on, smith was an idiot etc

Hindsight is a beautiful thing

Only the dribbling fools from down at the swamp thought so.
The normal people thought they should be given treatment not dissimilar to Essendon....or longer.
I mean, who uses banned substances to finish 13th or 14th...hahaha

 

[Perth Red]

So is it the darkest day now? Wouldn't surprise me one bit if AFL pulled out of WADA, they are very much like the NFL in their one country relevance and believe that it makes them world champions and a law unto themselves.

Sharks got off very lightly, they played the right cards and should make Smith their lifetime member if he advised them to cop the hit.

 

[Frailty]

So is it the darkest day now? Wouldn't surprise me one bit if AFL pulled out of WADA, they are very much like the NFL in their one country relevance and believe that it makes them world champions and a law unto themselves.

As far as I'm aware, if they were to do this, they would have funding from government pulled as per legislative processes.

Sharks got off very lightly, they played the right cards and should make Smith their lifetime member if he advised them to cop the hit.

Difference between the two was the difference between 8 weeks and 12 months. Sharks were open from the start, Essendon and AFL tried to muddy the waters.

I think the Sharks should be commended with how they responded.

 

[HayneKloppter]

As far as I'm aware, if they were to do this, they would have funding from government pulled as per legislative processes.



Difference between the two was the difference between 8 weeks and 12 months. Sharks were open from the start, Essendon and AFL tried to muddy the waters.

I think the Sharks should be commended with how they responded.

because cronulla is broke and the nrl weren't prepared to put it's brand in front of the club's. lesson learnt is that being broke as a joke does have some benefits

the AFL now has to lie in the bed that it made

 

[applesauce]

So is it the darkest day now? Wouldn't surprise me one bit if AFL pulled out of WADA, they are very much like the NFL in their one country relevance and believe that it makes them world champions and a law unto themselves.

Sharks got off very lightly, they played the right cards and should make Smith their lifetime member if he advised them to cop the hit.

Goodbye government funding.

Will never happen.

 

[Perth Red]

Does anyone have a link that states Govt funding of a sport is reliant on being signed up to ASADA?

 

[BrisbaneRhino]

The arrogance of the AFL, Essendon and its senior management has been mindboggling throughout the whole saga. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the severity of the bans reflects the fact that WADA felt it had been treated with contempt and wanted to send a strong message.

On the players the excuse of ignorance was removed years ago for the simple reason that its an easy excuse to use even if its not true. If someone is willing to claim they told an athlete what they were taking was legal, then the excuse of ignorance would be used in every single case.

 

[Desert Qlder]

Goodbye government funding.

Will never happen.

There would be politicians who would be prepared to overlook this and throw money at the AFL no matter what they do, for instance this guy:

Greens demand inquiry into Essendon

January 13, 2016 12:29PM

The Greens have called for an inquiry into the decision to suspend some Essendon AFL players.

A system that lays all of its blame on footballers is broken and needs to be reviewed, the Greens say.

Federal Greens leader Richard Di Natale has called on Sport Minister Sussan Ley set up a broad independent inquiry into Australia's anti-doping framework after the banning of 34 AFL players for anti-doping offences.

"I think it is a really big mistake to have a system that lays all of the blame almost exclusively on the players," Senator Di Natale told reporters on Wednesday.

 

[Perth Red]

It is harsh when your in a team culture and young and expected to tow the club line but they know the deal and its there to stop players blaming their coach everytime found guilty. I am surprised there are not better systems in place to protect players and clubs. Kids in Rl are being put on supplement programs from 14 years old, there needs to be a clear and transparent system in place to protect everyone. Simple solution would be a sign off sheet with what they are taking on it, signed by player and club at time of administration. That way neither can deny they knew what was happening.

 

[butchmcdick]

There would be politicians who would be prepared to overlook this and throw money at the AFL no matter what they do, for instance this guy:

I take that to mean that not only the players get suspended but also essendon should get suspended as well not that the players should get off Scott free

 

[DiegoNT]

Does anyone have a link that states Govt funding of a sport is reliant on being signed up to ASADA?

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-12/eight-burning-questions-about-the-essendon-34


Why is the AFL bound by the CAS decision?
The AFL is a WADA signatory and therefore must accept CAS's decision. The League, which previously operated under its own tailored testing regime, has expressed concerns about how the code is applied to team sports in the past. Withdrawing from the WADA code would, however, see government funds and support withdrawn from the game. Tuesday's decision sparked debate about the suitability of the WADA code to the AFL and the League said it invited that discussion.

 

[HayneKloppter]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-01-12/eight-burning-questions-about-the-essendon-34


Why is the AFL bound by the CAS decision?
The AFL is a WADA signatory and therefore must accept CAS's decision. The League, which previously operated under its own tailored testing regime, has expressed concerns about how the code is applied to team sports in the past. Withdrawing from the WADA code would, however, see government funds and support withdrawn from the game. Tuesday's decision sparked debate about the suitability of the WADA code to the AFL and the League said it invited that discussion.

yes.....why should the afl be treated differently to all other team sports around the globe?....hmmm,....

 

[El Diablo]

Does anyone have a link that states Govt funding of a sport is reliant on being signed up to ASADA?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/afl/afl-...-out-in-thecold/2005/06/28/1119724635248.html