Phil Hughes - When do we drop him?

[umina panther]

Very good post with some fair points BM. Now you've had your say don't fill every cricket thread with the same homoerotic rubbish

 

[Horrie Is God]

When Chris Martin plays spin better than you then you know you've got a serious issue..

 

[BunniesMan]

Very good post with some fair points BM. Now you've had your say don't fill every cricket thread with the same homoerotic rubbish

You might notice I haven't brought Hughes up in the limited overs squad thread or the batting stocks thread or the start of the shield season thread.

 

[madunit]

and you'd do well to not mention him in any other thread.

 

[derp]

Really happy with his quotes overnight. Sounding really optimistic. I got the feeling that getting dropped hasnt broken him like it would a lot of weaker men. He must have heard good things from Boof about him being a real chance for the 5th Test and for the summer ashes.

He is a century maker. If he keeps getting runs they won't be able to ignore him. The most frustrating thing is compared to a lot of others, he wasn't even out of form when he got dropped. 62 average on the tour. Good innings in 3 of his last 4 tests.

The only concerning thing is getting advice from JL. Whatever goes on inside JLs head obviously worked for him but it isnt the sort of stuff you'd want him to be teaching to the next generation.

Hopefully he listens more to Boof and less to JL. Hopefully he scores runs in this tour game and hopefully he stars in this test.

 

[TheParraboy]

21 first class centuries at an average of 45 before his 25th birthday makes him the clear standout batting talent of his generation. Everyone will bring up 2nd grade bowlers. But every other batsman in Australia has played on the same pitches against the same bowlers and noone under 30 is even in the same ballpark as Hughes.

His timing and his hand eye coordination are second to none. He has an ability to get the ball to the boundary like noone else in this country on the right side of 30.

Did he have an issue with accurate quicks before 2011? Absolutely. He worked on his technique. Since coming back he averages 50 odd against test fast bowlers. That is outstanding.

Is he less than outstanding against quality spin? Yes but his troubles are exaggerated. He has scored well against arguably the best in the world in Herath both in Australia and in Sri Lanka.

After finding his feet in his first ever Indian tests he handled spin better than the rest of the team in the 3rd and 4th test in India.

Then in the 1st Ashes test he was our best real batsman.

Then he had one bad test.

Then he got dropped.

He was not given a chance to succeed or fail properly. Steve Waugh thinks the exact same thing. The article I linked to earlier says the same.

I am not alone in thinking he is good enough to be a long term successful top order test batsman.

A standout generational player, doesn't get put in cotton wool for South African tests on home soil. You play your best against the best. Hiding Hughes tell you selectors dont think he is mentally strong against the best. They wanted to ease him into test cricket, but other than doing well against a 2nd string SL rable, and the odd 50 here and way over there, he is a massive disappointment considering what is expecting of him and the way he was handled with kid gloves

 

[African Monkey]

21 first class centuries at an average of 45 before his 25th birthday makes him the clear standout batting talent of his generation. Everyone will bring up 2nd grade bowlers. But every other batsman in Australia has played on the same pitches against the same bowlers and noone under 30 is even in the same ballpark as Hughes.

His timing and his hand eye coordination are second to none. He has an ability to get the ball to the boundary like noone else in this country on the right side of 30.

Did he have an issue with accurate quicks before 2011? Absolutely. He worked on his technique. Since coming back he averages 50 odd against test fast bowlers. That is outstanding.

Is he less than outstanding against quality spin? Yes but his troubles are exaggerated. He has scored well against arguably the best in the world in Herath both in Australia and in Sri Lanka.

After finding his feet in his first ever Indian tests he handled spin better than the rest of the team in the 3rd and 4th test in India.

Then in the 1st Ashes test he was our best real batsman.

Then he had one bad test.

Then he got dropped.

He was not given a chance to succeed or fail properly. Steve Waugh thinks the exact same thing. The article I linked to earlier says the same.

I am not alone in thinking he is good enough to be a long term successful top order test batsman.

Lol I asked what you saw in him as a player not an article of his career so far.

The guy is a slasher who relies on width and international bowlers aren't stupid enough to bowl short and wide to him all day. He looks awkward and uncomfortable playing anywhere else around the wicket.

I don't think I've seen a more limited player at international level ever.

 

[TV Ted Ellery]

Brendan Nash is the most limited batsman I can remember. Remarkably he averaged in the mid-30s despite only having one scoring shot.

 

[Twizzle]

You might notice I haven't brought Hughes up in the limited overs squad thread or the batting stocks thread or the start of the shield season thread.

only because they haven't started yet, no doubt the fap fest will begin in due course

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Hughes fails against decent attacks. The selectors had to protect him against the South African attack, he failed miserably against England and because he cannot play spin be would be a sitting duck against any team with a decent spinner.

Perhaps when we play Zimbabwe he might get a run.

 

[African Monkey]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2013/content/image/663093.html?object=566931;page=1

classy top order batting that

 

[8Ball]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD5f1oYA9N8

So is this.

 

[BunniesMan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD5f1oYA9N8

So is this.

Have you got that link saved? Part of your fap bank is it?

All that video shows is how far he has come. He has played 9 tests since then and he's almost never been caught in the slips by the quicks. He has all but eliminated that form of dismissal. He is averaging 54 against fast bowlers since then. He is a much better batsman than he was then.

 

[Meapro Ham]

Shut up Bunniesboiler. Go and get the professional help that you need.

 

[hineyrulz]

Have you got that link saved? Part of your fap bank is it?

All that video shows is how far he has come. He has played 9 tests since then and he's almost never been caught in the slips by the quicks. He has all but eliminated that form of dismissal. He is averaging 54 against fast bowlers since then. He is a much better batsman than he was then.

:lol: He's been averaging mid 20's since his return who gives a f**k who has got him out. Any spinner above club standard could get HAH with a grapefruit.

 

[RHCP]

This Hughes obsession is f**ked up BM.

 

[El Diablo]

Have you got that link saved? Part of your fap bank is it?

All that video shows is how far he has come. He has played 9 tests since then and he's almost never been caught in the slips by the quicks. He has all but eliminated that form of dismissal. He is averaging 54 against fast bowlers since then. He is a much better batsman than he was then.

why the long face?

 

[jargan83]

Phil Hughes would get out to a spinner playing park cricket on an astro turf pitch

 

[madunit]

The level of infatuation BM has for Hughes is actually not too dissimilar to that shown by violent sexual stalkers.

you need help BM

 

[African Monkey]

Have you got that link saved? Part of your fap bank is it?

All that video shows is how far he has come. He has played 9 tests since then and he's almost never been caught in the slips by the quicks. He has all but eliminated that form of dismissal. He is averaging 54 against fast bowlers since then. He is a much better batsman than he was then.

He hasn't eliminated that form of dismissal because fast bowlers don't get the chance to bowl at him anymore.