PNG bid for NRL

[PB]

if i won $50million tomorrow, i would go visit Mr Penn at Manly, buy the clubs licence off him, grab Mr Peters, Mr Hasler, Mr Toovey, and all the players. Have them sign contracts that required them to compensate me if they ever left the club before their contracts expired..... Then i would take the next plane to Port Morsby, meet with the PM of PNG offer them the licence for $5mill and wish the scum bags luck the next time they look sideways at one of the locals sisters or daughters...

 

[langpark]

1200 FANS


http://www.facebook.com/pages/PNG-NRL-Bid/387309931064

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[mikail-eagle]

is there any news confirming that png will have a team in the qld cup next year?

No, not next year. They'll have a team in Qld Cup in 2013. A senior team and junior team in the FOGs Competition.

http://www.4bc.com.au/blogs/4bc-blog/png-nrl/20110728-1i0zd.html

 

[smithie]

Australia, US damn PNG's rotten political practices

PAPUA New Guinea is entrapped by deeply corrupt politicians who have enriched themselves on resource revenues and Australian aid programs, according to United States diplomatic reports.

Australian government officials are reported as saying that generational change in PNG politics following the eventual departure of the ailing founding father and former prime minister Sir Michael Somare is a "false hope". They describe the PNG government as a ''totally dysfunctional blob''.

The damning assessments of Australia's nearest neighbour and former trust territory are contained in confidential US embassy cables obtained by WikiLeaks and made available to The Saturday Age.

In a 2008 briefing the US embassy in Port Moresby noted that resource revenues and Australian aid have served "more to enrich the political elite than to provide social services or infrastructure. There are no large-scale local businessmen, but numerous politicians are relatively well off".

PNG is Australia's largest recipient of foreign aid and in 2011-12 will receive more than $480 million. The Australian development assistance agency, AusAID, says PNG has "some of the worst health and education outcomes in the Asia-Pacific region".

Anxious to avoid diplomatic offence, Australian government ministers and officials rarely talk openly about corruption and maladministration in PNG, preferring to speak of "strengthening governance" and helping "institution building''. But the cables provide grim assessments of PNG's chaotic political system and failing administration.

In a May 2007 cable titled "Ponzi politics", the US embassy gave a damning account of PNG politics.

"Steeped in traditional magic and innocent of modern economies, PNG's citizens prove easy marks for Ponzi schemes which proliferate throughout the country,'' the embassy observed. "Now it's election time … and the politicians are dusting off their bottles of snake oil … it's an appalling spectacle of disregard for governance.''

In another report before the 2007 election, PNG's most recent national poll, the US embassy memorably reported that "the pork has hit the fan" as Sir Michael Somare reallocated ministerial portfolios to ensure that his cronies were well placed to buy political support.

One minister who benefited from Somare's patronage had previously held the health portfolio and was "mostly remembered for his insistence that he was just a politician and therefore could not be held responsible for the fact that the country's hospitals had run out of medicines while his ministry was still flush with cash".

The embassy's report painted a grim picture of the Somare administration's commitment to law and order: "The single most pressing problem facing PNG is the almost total collapse of the police force. So it is doubly disappointing that the effective [Police Minister Bire] Kimisopa was pushed aside. The portfolio has little control over expenditure. But his focus likely discomforted Somare and his cronies for the same reasons they worked to scuttle a large-scale Australian package which threatened to dramatically improve police performance."

The cables confirm that Australian officials have no illusions about the state of the PNG government. After a mid-2007 discussion with Australian high commission staff in Port Moresby, the US embassy reported that "one Australian analyst described generational change as a 'false hope'''.

After a long period of illness, Sir Michael Somare has been removed from office, though he is still protesting that his ouster was illegal. PNG's next national election is scheduled to be held next year.

■ Up to 3300 US diplomatic sources - including many in anti-US regimes who could face jail or death if discovered - have had their identities revealed via the release of the unedited WikiLeaks diplomatic cables trove.

The release occurred after a link was found online between a password included in a book by a Guardian journalist, David Leigh, and an encrypted file of the entire database stored on a filesharing site, thepiratebay.org. The news spread via Twitter and by yesterday the 251,287 unedited cables were spreading across the web.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/australia-us-damn-pngs-rotten-political-practices-20110902-1jq9a.html

 

[mikail-eagle]

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20110908/sport02.htm

Juniors to play in Lae

ALL SCHOOLS CHAMPIONSHIPS
By CHARLES YAPUMI

RUGBY League, like many other sports in the country, lacked good junior development program.
This were the words of Ivan Ravu, interim CEO of Papua New Guinea Rugby Football League at the announcement of the Coca-Cola National All Schools championship yesterday in Port Moresby.
However, junior development has been one area both the PNG NRL Bid and the PNGRFL have been working on the set a foundation for the future.
Four teams representing the Islands, Highlands, Northern and Southern Region of the country will be in Lae, Morobe Province from September 24-27 for the championship, which will be used by the selectors to scout for talented junior rugby league players. The juniors will also play a curtain raiser to the Prime Minister 13 fixture between the PNG Kumuls and Australia Kangaroos on September 25.
The U15 and U17 championship is sanction by the PNGRFL, with PNG NRL BID in the driver’s seat to develop a nationwide junior rugby league program to lift the code’s standard, and also meet one of the criteria needed to put a team in the Australia National Rugby League Competition.
A feast of footy is expected because close to 200 youngsters from across the country will be vying for the 40 tickets on offer to board a plane to Port Moresby to attend the development camp which is planned for November.
According to CEO of the PNGNRL BID Brad Tassell, those selected to attend the training camp will have a chance to cement a position in the U18 team that will be traveling to Australia in June 2012 to play in the Australia National School Boys Championship.
And also four lucky juniors will be attending a training camp with the Brisbane Broncos early next year.
On the other note, Ravu said that PNGRFL will be looking at developing a ‘play education program’ with main emphasis on lifting the standard of rugby league in the country, because the standard of coaching and players are lower in the country compared to the international arena.
But this has to wait until a permanent board is appointed in the November Annual General Meeting.

 

[Goddo]

I wonder if PNG would be better off as an Australian dependent territory. They clearly are incapable of governing themselves.

I hate it how Australia always has to bail these pacific nations out every 40 years or so because their governments are corupt, their ecconomies have collapsed or there has been some sort of ethnic tension and coup.

The first operation the Australian Navy ever conducted was an intervention force in the Solomon Islands because of a coup threatening beurocrats running the ecconomy. We've been back there twice. Fiji and the jelousy of the natives of the hard working Indians makes that place a political merry-go-round. PNG have been independant for what, 35 years, and despite heavy mining and environmental damage generating wealth, they have one of the worlds worst health systems, worst AIDs rates, absolute corruption....

Yet we have to prop them up and throw aid at them because we are worried about losing them as part of our "sphere of influence" to China and Chinese aid. This was one of the reasons we left East Timor to the Indonesians - the last thing we want is small, fractured, poor, lawless nations around us.

Corrupt, backwards, inept, lazy, insular, racist (along tribe or ethnic lines). That neatly sums up Governance in the South Pacific islands.

 

[NRL-TGG]

Backwards according to someone in Australia.

I wonder what the outlook it of people who have lived in those countries for 40-50 years.

A Rugby League forum is probably not the place to discuss such a thing though.

 

[Goddo]

Backwards according to someone in Australia.

I wonder what the outlook it of people who have lived in those countries for 40-50 years.

A Rugby League forum is probably not the place to discuss such a thing though.

BDGS, I've been to most of the SP countries. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see they are a sh!te fight.

 

[NRL-TGG]

I've been to most of the SP countries. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to see they are a sh!te fight.

I merely asked a question and you go on the defensive about what you have done.

 

[mikail-eagle]

This is a letter from the PNG Bid CEO wrote in response to criticisim that former Kumuls Coach (1992) John Wagambie had about the bid.

Some of the points in the response answer questions usually asked in this forum.

http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20110909/yutok04.htm

BID funds league growth

I WRITE in response to John Pius Wagambie’s letter on Tuesday, September 6, 2011.
I would suggest that Mr Wagambie is very much out of touch with what the PNG NRL BID are actually doing to develop the game in PNG.
I have stated several times publicly since I came on board that the BID is now dedicated to firstly assisting the development of Rugby League and to make the game strong in PNG before we are in any position to apply for an NRL licence. This includes a junior development program, Queensland Cup team, Coaches, Referees & League Safe courses & working with the PNGRFL & PNGNRL in an advisory role about what needs to be done to improve the domestic & international programs.
We are fully aware that it is unlikely that any new teams will be admittedi nto the competition until 2015 and 100% agree with this as the NRL firstly needs to consolidate its current competition and ensure all clubs are financial before expansion. The PNG BID through its current programs which include a National Schools Development program and entering a PNG team in the Queensland Cup in 2013 and other programs underway will be in a far better position by 2015 than we currently are. By then, we will be in a strong position financially and structurally to start banging on the door that PNG deserves to be considered seriously for a licence in the future, but if we don’t start doing what needs to be done now, then we wont have a track record or a history of anything to hang our hat on and this will therefore take longer than it should.
I disagree with your statement about the Central Coast and would be very surprised if another NSW team will gain admittance. I have seen the media research and analysis reports on expansion and believe me another NSW team is way down the list, as it doesn’t grow the game media/support wise, whereas Rockhampton, Western Australia, PNG and possibly another Brisbane team in the Logan/Ipswich area are what’s needed to bring a new audience and strengthen the game nationally and internationally. But we have to get the game right in PNG first to break down the perception the NRL and Australia has about PNG. You stated the Central Coast has a stadium and facilities and currently plays some NRL games, so should have a team?
Just having a stadium, facilities and playing games does not guarantee you a spot, its media and bums on seats that drive the NRL as it does with all sports. I think if PNG had a team every game would be sold out. BID funds are actually being spent on developing the game from the grass roots up and it is one of THE most important programs we will undertake.
Our National All Schools Program in partnership with the PNGRFL will cost an estimated 1.5 million kina to implement and run annually and includes funding to existing schoolboys programs across PNG, provision of equipment (footballs etc.), hosting Championships in each Zone and a National Championship at the end of this month.
The BID also funds a development camp for 40 selected talented youth, scholarships awards to each camp attendee for schooling and playing equipment, selection of 4 talented youth and 2 x young senior players (Digicel Cup) to spend a week in Brisbane with the Broncos development camp and T20 and/or senior squads. We have also applied for entrance of a PNG U16 & U18 team in the Australian Schoolboys Championships in 2012.
This program is the only way youth can develop and improve their skills by providing a pathway, specialised training and competition against the best youth in Australia. The National Competition is not called as you stated the B Mobile anymore – It is now called the Digicel Cup and we also agree that the standard and management of the competition needs to improve. I know the current board is working hard on doing this. Updating and accrediting coaches, referees and administrators across the country is a major factor in improving the quality of players coming through the ranks. The PNGNRL BID also has a program running to run updates for these areas in all Zones with the view to gaining level 1 accreditation and building a database of qualified coaches across the country. Iwould guarantee that there are only a handful of current level 1 coaches in PNG (who have updated their level 1 every 3 years and not 10 years ago) and virtually no level 2 coaches which is a standard requirement to coach at international level. On going Coaches training and accreditation is the ONLY way to ensure the correct skills are taught at an early age so when players arrive at Digicel Cup or Kumul level this becomes second nature to them.

Your statement on wasting money on Australian Citizens is very derogatory and damaging to Rugby League in PNG and Australia has played a big part in making sure rugby league didn’t totally disintegrate in PNG. I would suggest that Bill Leane has had a very positive effect on PNG cricket and I would like nothing more than to see fully qualified PNG nationals running the game of Rugby League at all levels, however this must be done through training from experienced overseas people who have been involved in rugby league all of their lives and know what needs to be done to develop a structured program, with financial checks and proper management. If PNG does not take this advice and training then it will always be struck in the past ways of management of Rugby League.
Mr Wagambie, I now offer you an invitation to pick up the phone to discuss the BID and Rugby League with me personally.

Brad Tassell,
Chief Executive Officer, PNG NRL BID

 

[Perth Red]

Shame he didn't answer how sponsoring Brisbane to the tune of $300K is helping the bid? Still I am sure those weekends in Q'land and luxury box at Suncorp is doing them some good!

 

[nqcowboy87]

we have to get the game right in PNG first to break down the perception the NRL and Australia has about PNG.

i know your job is to lookafter a football team, but honestly id rather the country sort itself out socially and politically before they bother about trying to support a top flight rugby league club

 

[Goddo]

I have seen the media research and analysis reports on expansion and believe me another NSW team is way down the list, as it doesn’t grow the game media/support wise, whereas Rockhampton, Western Australia, PNG and possibly another Brisbane team in the Logan/Ipswich area are what’s needed to bring a new audience and strengthen the game nationally and internationally.

I am begining to suspect Central Queensland and Perth are the favourites. Rocky keeps getting positive raps from various camps.

 

[mikail-eagle]

The PNG BID through its current programs which include a National Schools Development program and entering a PNG team in the Queensland Cup in 2013 and other programs underway will be in a far better position by 2015 than we currently are.

Even if the BID is just a pipe dream at the moment, this bit can only help develop & strenghten the game in PNG and make the Kumuls more competitive in the future.

 

[Windy70]

I wonder if PNG would be better off as an Australian dependent territory. They clearly are incapable of governing themselves.

I hate it how Australia always has to bail these pacific nations out every 40 years or so because their governments are corupt, their ecconomies have collapsed or there has been some sort of ethnic tension and coup.

The first operation the Australian Navy ever conducted was an intervention force in the Solomon Islands because of a coup threatening beurocrats running the ecconomy. We've been back there twice. Fiji and the jelousy of the natives of the hard working Indians makes that place a political merry-go-round. PNG have been independant for what, 35 years, and despite heavy mining and environmental damage generating wealth, they have one of the worlds worst health systems, worst AIDs rates, absolute corruption....

Yet we have to prop them up and throw aid at them because we are worried about losing them as part of our "sphere of influence" to China and Chinese aid. This was one of the reasons we left East Timor to the Indonesians - the last thing we want is small, fractured, poor, lawless nations around us.

Corrupt, backwards, inept, lazy, insular, racist (along tribe or ethnic lines). That neatly sums up Governance in the South Pacific islands.

The best part of 20 years living in the south pacific islands. You, mate have no idea. Yes there are still problems but international links via sport anything, will throw a spotlight on them from a different angle. The more international exposure that exists can only increase transparency. These are the things we need.

PS. Are you a hard working Indian that the natives are jealous of?

 

[nqcowboy87]

yeh but you cant compare say samoa to png, my old man just went over to samoa and said the difference between png and samoa was pretty noticeable. id be more confident with a nrl side in samoa over png

 

[Perth Red]

They seem to have missed the point that even if we have to wait till 2015 for expansion the decison on who is likely to take place next year, and PNG will in no way be able to show the level of development they will have needed by next year. A QRL side is a good step forward and the NRL should be looking at better ways of giving PNG Jnr's chance to make it in the NRL.

 

[Gaseous Clay]

I'm warming to the idea, They could be known as the PNG "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels" - and instead of a medicab, Fuzziwuzzi-angel stretcher bearers dressed in WW2 gear and afros could run on with a stretcher. The possibilities are endless! If you get put in the bin you go to a Jap POW camp.

 

[bobmar28]

I'm warming to the idea, They could be known as the PNG "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels" - and instead of a medicab, Fuzziwuzzi-angel stretcher bearers dressed in WW2 gear and afros could run on with a stretcher. The possibilities are endless! If you get put in the bin you go to a Jap POW camp.

:lol: How about everyone walks a sort of 'Kokoda Trail' to get to the stadium?

 

[betcats]

I'm warming to the idea, They could be known as the PNG "Fuzzy Wuzzy Angels" - and instead of a medicab, Fuzziwuzzi-angel stretcher bearers dressed in WW2 gear and afros could run on with a stretcher. The possibilities are endless! If you get put in the bin you go to a Jap POW camp.

Thats real funny. f**ken scum.