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Possible new West Sydney Stadium?

El Diablo

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http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/spo...g-issues-in-her-portfolio-20140329-zqo0j.html

NSW Sports Minister Gabrielle Upton discusses the big issues in her portfolio

Date
March 28, 2014

Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter

It's been six months since Gabrielle Upton became Sports Minister. She talks to Adrian Proszenko about the major talking points in her portfolio.

STADIUM STRATEGY

The government has articulated a strategy which shifts funding away from suburban grounds towards major venues such as the Sydney Cricket Ground, Allianz Stadium and ANZ Stadium.

While the government will never tell sporting codes where to play, the NRL has also adopted a gradual shift towards larger venues.

However, the government currently has no money to fund a new or redeveloped ''tier 2'' venue, which the Parramatta Eels, Penrith Panthers and Wests Tigers are lobbying for in their rugby league heartland areas.

Ms Upton is happy to meet with individual stakeholders but said it was more productive for the NRL to outline its requirements rather than have Sydney clubs pitch individually.

"Government can play a role, it's not always about writing a cheque," she said.

"At the moment we don't have the money to power that strategy other than to encourage creative thinking about it. Having codes come and tell me where the gaps are, where they think I can help, is what we want.

"I'm not saying there will never be an investment into a large stadia or a new stadia built from scratch, but the SCG redevelopment was a significant spend on the part of government."
 

georgesnmith

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they are still looking at reconfiguring ANZ and putting a roof on it

think they are calling for tenderers now to get an idea of the cost.
 

fourplay

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Just putting it out there......

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That would be a truly great stadium if it was like that.
 

oikee

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I really cant believe how dumb as dogshit the NSW government really are.
The west as they are all saying is the future, yet they cant see past their own nose that is the perfect place to build a mega stadium.
Forget all the other stadiums. Put their money into a 50 thousand stadium out west, in Parra or near..
Not only are they going to continue to grow as in population, but this knucklehead leader thinks by up-dating these other stadiums closer to the city will improve things.
Look, for a start and i explained it many times, the amount of teams playing at these two stadiums means their is need for a purpose built middle of the road stadium, at around 50 to 55 thousand.

Put it in the middle or around the middle of the western teams which include Penrith, tigers, Bulldogs Parra and wanderers and you will help grow huge crowds.
Give the west some class, they will have their own airport out that way as well, so fans flying in will love it as well, as they do Suncorp.

Mate, i cant believe they are talking about Allianz, it is too far away from the west to improve things.
And ANZ is too big, should only be used for blockbusters and internationals.
Souths and Roosters can play out of allianz, Dogs Parra Tigs Penrith and wanderers can make the new mega stadium their home, and not for every game. No need to take low drawing crowds or every single game to the new stadium. Just the games you know will attract a huge crowd.

Is this really that hard for people in Sydney to understand.
This really is a case of, "if you build it, they will come).
And Sydney now is one huge stadium short for all the codes.
They need a middle of the range stadium purpose built so they can grow the crowds gradually.

If the NRL refused to play out of ANZ unless they got another stadium built out west, watch how quickly things would get done.
The afl used this tactic to get what they wanted.
 
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http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...ell-dream-bigger/story-fnii5s3x-1226880457632

The Parramatta Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers edict to Barry O’Farrell: dream bigger

44 minutes ago April 11, 2014 11:25AM


PARRAMATTA Eels and Western Sydney Wanderers have joined forces to tell the government that a $29 million upgrade to increase Parramatta Stadium capacity by just 1800 seats is a waste of time.

Eels and Wanderers chiefs want a bigger plan to convert the venue into Western Sydney’s largest rectangular stadium with 32,000 seats.

Such a plan could cost up to $120 million but Eels chief executive Scott Seward said that private investors would be interested in developing office, retail and elite sports science facilities.

“The plan at the moment is not going to give us or this region the stadium it deserves,’’ Mr Seward said, after a meeting with Venues NSW this week.

Football Federation Australia chief executive David Gallop has also weighed in, raising the prospect the Wanderers would consider relocating if the Parramatta facility was not fully upgraded.

He revealed he had recently met with Liverpool Mayor Ned Mannoun, who would “love to build a stadium”.

“Certainly that would be an option if Parramatta is not significantly upgraded,’’ Mr Gallop said.

“The Wanderers have almost outgrown Parramatta Stadium already in only their second year,’’ he said. “They are only going to get bigger and bigger.’’

Preliminary work is scheduled to begin next month increasing Parramatta stadium’s capacity to 24,000 seats, using $20 million allocated by the federal government, $6 million by the state and $3 million by Parramatta City Council.

Pressure is mounting on Sport Minister Gabrielle Upton to finalise where the government wants to develop what will become Western Sydney’s leading mid-capacity stadium.

Its stadiums strategy, released in 2012, said there was a need to develop a Western Sydney stadium of between 20,000 and 40,000 seats with modern corporate suites and elite training facilities, but no decision has been made.

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Artist impression of the planned upgrade to Parramatta Stadium. Source: Supplied

Penrith Panthers general manager Phil Gould is pushing to redevelop the 22,500 Centrebet Stadium, while Campbelltown lawyer and Wests Tigers supporter Jim Marsden has appealed for an NRL team to be based permanently in the southwest.

Ms Upton said yesterday it was important the government was “on the same page” as the Eels and Wanderers, the stadium’s two major tenants.

NRL chief executive Dave Smith said a world-class rugby league stadium was needed in Western Sydney but said the NRL had not yet “landed on a preferred option”.

“Unfortunately the overall standard of stadiums in this State is not satisfactory,” he said. “It means we cannot offer fans the best possible experience.

“We need stadiums which are easy to get to, which bring fans close to the action and enable them to watch games in comfort.”

Wanderers chairman Lyall Gorman said the team believed Parramatta was the correct choice as it was centrally located within Western Sydney and well serviced by public transport.

Game days already pumped more than $18 million a year into the local economy.

“We would prefer a commitment to the whole of the picture, not just part of the picture,’’ he said.

“It’s not our strategy to hold guns at heads – we prefer to explain why this is the best option, but time is of the essence,’’ he said.

He said the Wanderers would facing the prospect of losing $1 million next season due to the redevelopment works just to increase capacity to 22,500.

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Another view of the proposed upgrade. Source: Supplied
 

oikee

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Parramatta is a huge city much like Brisbane, and they need to treat it like a huge city. Not build a piddly little titans stadium in a growing area.
Anything under 50 thousand will simply just mean another wasted opportunity for this dumbarse city.

They need to treat Parra as the centre of a huge hub for teams, Tigers, Wanderers, Bulldogs and Parra and Penrith can all treat this stadium like it is their own, and create a hub like Suncorp has in the middle of a city.

When is the madness going to end. Sydney is having its head kicked in now by other cities that understand the purpose of stadiums. Melbourne, Brisbane, Even Perth will be outstripping Sydney soon.
Auckland has their sights set on huge events.
The Nines just won a global award. what ya won lately Syndey, not even a test match your that backward thinking. Nobody wants to go to a test match at a 83 thousand round white elephant with 30 odd thousand, it is embarrassing for the code. Even the Swans hate playing their.

I cant believe they would waste another 20 odd million when they should be looking for a new area to house the mother of all stadiums for Sydney. Near the top of the river, close to transport and create a heart.
People drive from Toowoomba to attend Suncorp. Its that forking good. They park across the river, fork around at museums and galleries, then cross over to the game and travel home after a belly full of p#ss and ribs. Hogs breath is on top of the hill, for those a bit hungry after another Broncos victory.
 

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Yep Western Sydney needs a suncorp 40k stadium. Nsw govt is nearly as bad as the tools running our state!

NRL needs to show some leadership on the issue. That statement from a Smith is weak as pish. Tell them what you want, where you want it and by when and who will commit to playing out of it NRL. Your the biggest code in town, start "dictating terms"!
 

POPEYE

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Yep Western Sydney needs a suncorp 40k stadium. Nsw govt is nearly as bad as the tools running our state!

NRL needs to show some leadership on the issue. That statement from a Smith is weak as pish. Tell them what you want, where you want it and by when and who will commit to playing out of it NRL. Your the biggest code in town, start "dictating terms"!

Maybe decades into the future if there is only one team remaining in Sydney's west a Suncorp replica would be filled and viable. Suncorp has a captive brainwashed audience that might support another team on alternate weekends but it would lose it's fascination if 4 teams were to call it home
 

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serious waste if they built it at Penrith http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/penrith-may-build-500m-sport-stadium-20140411-36ij2.html

Penrith may build $500m sport stadium

Date
April 12, 2014

Adrian Proszenko, Michael Chammas

Penrith could become the home of a $500 million redevelopment which would include the construction of a new roofed stadium on the land currently occupied by Sportingbet Stadium and the adjoining harness racing track.

It is understood the ambitious proposal is being driven by Penrith city, Harness Racing NSW and politicians including local MP Stuart Ayres, who is also Fair Trading Minister.

The finishing touches are being put on a master plan for the 35,000-seat stadium, which is expected to cost $300-$500 million. Its success hinges on the proposed Badgerys Creek airport.

The stadium could be used by NRL teams, the Western Sydney Wanderers, the Penrith Emus rugby union club and other local sporting teams, and could host concerts and events.

There have also been discussions about the venue being controlled by the ANZ Stadium Trust, which would allow the four western Sydney-based NRL teams - Parramatta, Canterbury, Penrith and Wests Tigers - to split home matches between the two venues based on the number of fans each game is expected to attract.

It is possible matches that are likely to draw smaller crowds could be played at Pirtek Stadium, but Parramatta is unlikely to receive a new stadium given its proximity to ANZ Stadium at Sydney Olympic Park.

Sportingbet Stadium is located on crown land under the control of Penrith City Council that is leased to the Panthers, while the adjoining paceway site is under the auspices of the Penrith Agricultural Society.

The government has outlined a stadiums strategy policy in which larger venues, such as ANZ Stadium and the Sydney Cricket Ground, would be given funding priority.

The strategy includes a commitment to build a ''tier two'' stadium in the greater west. Penrith's bid is understood to be favoured ahead of proposals in Liverpool and Parramatta.

The plan requires Harness Racing NSW to sell their Bankstown, Fairfield and Penrith Paceways with a view to constructing a joint trotting and greyhound track at Eastern Creek, as the Western Sydney Parklands Trust is keen for the site to be on its land.

However, Penrith City Council is also vying for the new racing facility and could provide land at a nominal rate to ensure it is housed there.

The NSW Harness Racing Club relocated to Menangle Park Paceway near Campbelltown in early 2011.

The Panthers, who currently play out of Sportingbet Stadium, attempted to buy into the Wanderers when the A-League club announced it was up for sale.

The overtures were rejected but it is understood the parties could be prepared to work out a venue-sharing arrangement.

Penrith officials have outlined bold membership and attendance targets which would render Sportingbet Stadium too small in future years.

Eels chief executive Scott Seward said this weekthat his club and the Wanderers were working together with a view to redeveloping Pirtek Stadium into a 32,000-seat venue.

There is currently no state government money allocated for this, but it is understood the sale of Wentworth Park greyhounds to developers would bankroll a big part of the project.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Yep Western Sydney needs a suncorp 40k stadium. Nsw govt is nearly as bad as the tools running our state!

NRL needs to show some leadership on the issue. That statement from a Smith is weak as pish. Tell them what you want, where you want it and by when and who will commit to playing out of it NRL. Your the biggest code in town, start "dictating terms"!

Totally disagree...

Of course he should be "dictating terms", but behind closed doors. That statement was professional and pragmatic, and he should keep going exactly the way he is now.

He obviously would know what he wants, but thats will never be made public and it SHOULD never be made public. Judge him on his results, not the media games...
 

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