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Rationalisation of Sydney

Perth Red

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There was a little snippet in the RL media about some NRL club being in financial trouble having lost $5mill last year. No clues as to who but said it wasn't Manly, Wests or Sharks. Wonder who managed to pss up the wall a $3million bonus from NRL and $5million on top of it?
 

flippikat

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There was a little snippet in the RL media about some NRL club being in financial trouble having lost $5mill last year. No clues as to who but said it wasn't Manly, Wests or Sharks. Wonder who managed to pss up the wall a $3million bonus from NRL and $5million on top of it?

Panthers? They posted quite a loss a couple years ago if memory serves me right.. and did they have to pay out Griffin last year?

Maybe Phil Gould left before the true state of things gets out to the public? *shrugs*

Or maybe I'm effectively saying 2 + 2 = 22 ... hehehe
 

siv

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There was a little snippet in the RL media about some NRL club being in financial trouble having lost $5mill last year. No clues as to who but said it wasn't Manly, Wests or Sharks. Wonder who managed to pss up the wall a $3million bonus from NRL and $5million on top of it?

That will be before LC grants
 

Perth Red

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That will be before LC grants

Yeh you would hope so, but even so how can you spend effectively $8million more in one year after player payments, what the heck are they spending on and where is the football cap that was supposed to be coming in?
 

BuffaloRules

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There was a little snippet in the RL media about some NRL club being in financial trouble having lost $5mill last year. No clues as to who but said it wasn't Manly, Wests or Sharks. Wonder who managed to pss up the wall a $3million bonus from NRL and $5million on top of it?

Goldy
 

siv

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Yeh you would hope so, but even so how can you spend effectively $8million more in one year after player payments, what the heck are they spending on and where is the football cap that was supposed to be coming in?

Plenty of one of excuses FCs use

Be it coach payouts to Medical or gym items or CoE items
 

tri_colours

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I'm sure the people of Geelong wouldn't like being referred to as a suburb of Melbourne, its as much a city in it's own right as Newcastle

So 9 clubs and a population gap thats closing pretty quickly, and the same argument gets thrown around AFL circles, just bit less now that they've gone to 18, which would also be the case if the NRL went to 18 with Perth/Brisbane2/NZ2. Bringing back the bears before any of those 3, maybe even before Adelaide and Melbourne 2, would spark this debate even more.



According to the OZ Tam graphs though Geelong TV Ratings are included in Melbourne's.
 

greenBV4

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According to the OZ Tam graphs though Geelong TV Ratings are included in Melbourne's.

While were discussing "satellite cities" and if they should be included in pop totals..

I came across this SMH article, not sure how true it is but it basically claims that Sydney selectively chooses to include or not include the CC's population in its own to when it suits, but Melbourne doesn't currently include Geelong, despite it being slightly closer to Melbourne then the CC is the Sydney.

Give it a read if your interested

"Sydney has a bigger population than Melbourne, right? Well, maybe. A lot depends on where you draw Sydney's northern boundary. At the moment the official definition of Greater Sydney stretches all the way to Lake Macquarie, about 120 kilometres north of the CBD. That means the city's population is bolstered by the inclusion of the heavily populated NSW Central Coast. That region rates as Australia's ninth largest "significant urban area" in its own right, according to the Bureau of Statistics. It comfortably ranks above Wollongong, Hobart, Townsville and Darwin.

So how would Australia's two biggest cities compare if Sydney did not include the Central Coast? The bureau's latest estimates put the population of Greater Sydney at just over 5 million in June 2016. Greater Melbourne's head count stood at 4.73 million.

But if you remove the Central Coast's 335,000 residents from Sydney's tally it is a different story. That drags the harbour city's population back to 4.7 million – about 25,000 fewer than Greater Melbourne.

On that definition, Melbourne became Australia's biggest city in September 2015. And Greater Melbourne's population could be even bigger if the boundaries were tweaked a little.

The adjacent Geelong region, for example, is not included in Melbourne's population count. And yet Geelong is a little closer to Melbourne's CBD than the central coast hub of Gosford is to downtown Sydney.

So if Greater Sydney did not include the Central Coast and Greater Melbourne did include Geelong, the Victorian capital would be Australia's biggest city by a significant margin.

The Bureau of Statistics includes the Central Coast as a part of Greater Sydney because of the relatively large share of people from that region who commute south for work and study. The 2011 Census counted 23,100 from the Central Coast who travelled to the rest of Greater Sydney to work – about 7 per cent of the total population. Even so, it is still debatable whether that region – which goes way beyond the traditional "Sydney basin" – should be considered part of the harbour city.

Tim Williams, the chief executive of business lobby group the Committee for Sydney, says Sydneysiders themselves aren't too sure if the Central Coast is part of the city. "Sometimes we seem to include it and sometime we don't," he said. "I worry that we do include it sometimes to boost the numbers."


The scope of the powerful Greater Sydney Commission set up recently by the NSW government to "coordinate and align" the planning is also telling. It doesn't include the Central Coast.

No matter where you think Greater Sydney's boundaries should be drawn, this comparison draws attention to a striking demographic trend - Melbourne's burgeoning growth.

The population of the Victorian capital grew by nearly a million people during the past decade - almost 200,000 more than Sydney added in the same period. That rapid growth has been driven by a stream of arrivals from other Australian states, including NSW, as well as net overseas migration.

Melbourne is on track to become the nation's biggest city, regardless of whether the Central Coast continues to bolster the numbers for Greater Sydney.

- https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/is-melbourne-already-bigger-than-sydney-20170922-gyn2k4.html
 

tri_colours

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And how does that make Geelong a part of Melbourne anyway. How any sane human thinks Geelong is a part of Melbourne denies logic on every level.

Including them in the Melbourne TV ratings is a long way from labelling them as the same city.
 

MugaB

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There was a little snippet in the RL media about some NRL club being in financial trouble having lost $5mill last year. No clues as to who but said it wasn't Manly, Wests or Sharks. Wonder who managed to pss up the wall a $3million bonus from NRL and $5million on top of it?
Im not sure its panthers, they had a huge boost in memberships the year before last, im actually thinking dogs, with the buys of foran, woods, and then letting go of most of their top squad, Morris x2, Klemmer, Mbye, Graham, Reynolds etc..and lack of crowds last year due to performance. Then the boardroom turnover, not to mention Des haslers pay out, (he named is mansion after railene "this is me castle, i named her Railene! he he")
They were in strife all round, theyll come good tho, those juniors are playing well, hell they almost toppled the storm
 
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