Round 3 V Newcastle

[DinkyDi]

Some sooks in this thread, was a very cheap send off, yet to see an angle where he actually gets him high. Well played Smith.

So Chris Smith was concussed, he suffered jaw damage, and he could not continue, and we are sooks? Really?

 

[WestyLife]

So Chris Smith was concussed, he suffered jaw damage, and he could not continue, and we are sooks? Really?

It's bait mate.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

So Chris Smith was concussed, he suffered jaw damage, and he could not continue, and we are sooks? Really?

Massively, oak is an apt sponsor. He’s not even injured champ. Went off because he was due to be subbed.

 

[DinkyDi]

It's bait mate.

After his second comment, I agree. Thanks.

 

[snickers007]

Why do you assume drink is involved seems to me from reading his posts just expressing his opinion, his posts are often long so drink is probably not a factor at all.

I honestly don't care if they've been drinking or not, but there is clearly a pattern emerging when you look at the last couple of match day threads.

Seems like they come in here and looking for an argument every week, even when people are agreeing (eg. trying to be most correct - see the "I was the first to call Tyrone May a plodder" sub plot).

I'm all for discussion, but the scattergun name calling and aggressiveness is a bit ridiculous.

 

[WestyLife]

Seems like they come in here and looking for an argument every week, even when people are agreeing (eg. trying to be most correct - see the "I was the first to call Tyrone May a plodder" sub plot).

For the record I only responded to that to be annoying because he was giving Franklin a weirdly hard time.

 

[Girds89]

I honestly don't care if they've been drinking or not, but there is clearly a pattern emerging when you look at the last couple of match day threads.

Seems like they come in here and looking for an argument every week, even when people are agreeing (eg. trying to be most correct - see the "I was the first to call Tyrone May a plodder" sub plot).

I'm all for discussion, but the scattergun name calling and aggressiveness is a bit ridiculous.

If i dont agree with something someone is posting i will have my say..yes i may get heated but i dont ever personally go after one person.

I have had disagreements with westy, mx, betcats, franklin, luke bowden, over the last few years but i will certainly like their posts and still appreciate their knowledgeable input and agree with the majority of their posts.

As ive always said on here, i try be as unbiased as possible. I try post from a non panther fans perspective.. i think maybe that causes some issues because i just call things as i see them. If nathan cleary plays shit house ill call him out..

Many on here love critta but all last year i said he was nowhere near joey manu in terms of overall ability...a few posters at the time completley hated on me for it.

Yet ask any non panther fan and youd be naive to think they wouldnt say what i said.

Take yesterday. Some our pointing out the left needs work in defense.

When in reality, the right only missed two less tackles.
Charlie- made one, missed one
Critta- made 12, missed 3
Tago- made 12,missed 4
Taylan- made 1 missed 2

Yet the left was where the knights sent all their attacking plays. They clearly had picked out kikau as a weak point. As ive been saying he cant play 80, it affects our defence. Hes lack of line speed and mobility when he gets fatigued is so poor. And nrl coaches know this and target him.. yet some on here still seem to think poor defensive decisions or misses are on the outside men.

Overall tago gave gagai a whopping yesterday. Yet some on here dont like to have their opinions not eventuate..

If im wrong about something ill put my hand up.. ive been praising charlie every week so far after being a big critic last year.

Wasnt a fan of SOS but hes proved me wrong..

If posting from an unbiased persepective without the panthers goggles on hurts feelings than im sorry to all.

The amount of butt hurt last year from some when i went in to bat for momo at centre and critta wing was laughable.

Ive been attacked and called out. Do i whinge... nup.. its a forum..i know none of you.. we are all panthers tragics.. if someome wants to call me out no dramas. I wont lose any sleep.

I enjoy the debate, i enjoy differing opinions. I find it interesting hearing other knowledgeable fans input from a different perspective. Even if i dont agree.

Its not about being right or wrong even if what i posted or post comes across thst way. None of us our right or wrong. None of us know the inner sanctum.

We all just have opinions.. without heated discussions or the occasional disagreement i think itd be a tad boring in here..

So i wont be putting people on ignore.. i can take people calling me a dope etc.. as i still like to read their opinion and for the most part agree on there input and enjoy reading their posts which is why i come on here everyday.

 

[The_Frog]

But latrel and Turbo will play there. Maybe even Burton before them

The day is not too far off when Turbo takes the fullback spot (and N Cleary the captaincy).

 

[WestyLife]

The day is not too far off when Turbo takes the fullback spot (and N Cleary the captaincy).

Bold prediction. Teddy downfall imminent?

 

[Iamback]

If i dont agree with something someone is posting i will have my say..yes i may get heated but i dont ever personally go after one person.

I have had disagreements with westy, mx, betcats, franklin, luke bowden, over the last few years but i will certainly like their posts and still appreciate their knowledgeable input and agree with the majority of their posts.

As ive always said on here, i try be as unbiased as possible. I try post from a non panther fans perspective.. i think maybe that causes some issues because i just call things as i see them. If nathan cleary plays shit house ill call him out..

Many on here love critta but all last year i said he was nowhere near joey manu in terms of overall ability...a few posters at the time completley hated on me for it.

Yet ask any non panther fan and youd be naive to think they wouldnt say what i said.

Take yesterday. Some our pointing out the left needs work in defense.

When in reality, the right only missed two less tackles.
Charlie- made one, missed one
Critta- made 12, missed 3
Tago- made 12,missed 4
Taylan- made 1 missed 2

Yet the left was where the knights sent all their attacking plays. They clearly had picked out kikau as a weak point. As ive been saying he cant play 80, it affects our defence. Hes lack of line speed and mobility when he gets fatigued is so poor. And nrl coaches know this and target him.. yet some on here still seem to think poor defensive decisions or misses are on the outside men.

Overall tago gave gagai a whopping yesterday. Yet some on here dont like to have their opinions not eventuate..

If im wrong about something ill put my hand up.. ive been praising charlie every week so far after being a big critic last year.

Wasnt a fan of SOS but hes proved me wrong..

If posting from an unbiased persepective without the panthers goggles on hurts feelings than im sorry to all.

The amount of butt hurt last year from some when i went in to bat for momo at centre and critta wing was laughable.

Ive been attacked and called out. Do i whinge... nup.. its a forum..i know none of you.. we are all panthers tragics.. if someome wants to call me out no dramas. I wont lose any sleep.

I enjoy the debate, i enjoy differing opinions. I find it interesting hearing other knowledgeable fans input from a different perspective. Even if i dont agree.

Its not about being right or wrong even if what i posted or post comes across thst way. None of us our right or wrong. None of us know the inner sanctum.

We all just have opinions.. without heated discussions or the occasional disagreement i think itd be a tad boring in here..

So i wont be putting people on ignore.. i can take people calling me a dope etc.. as i still like to read their opinion and for the most part agree on there input and enjoy reading their posts which is why i come on here everyday.

You need to add the 2nd row and halves to the list of missed though for the full picture.

Take the Hoy try.

Kikau rushes out. Just stands there doesn't take anyone
That puts the gap
Luai comes to plug the hole
Tago rushes in but then backs off and falls for the dummy

That isn't one anyone player but a communication issue. As was their 1st try

Similar to the Sua try last week.

Even the Sloan try no one on the right even made a attempt to get the kick

Critter missed an easy tackle for Best's try.
SOS in Round 1 rushed out for intercept

So the misses down the right come to poor individual moments rather then issues in the defensive.

Their last try came from misses from backup players. Kenny missed the 1st tackle. Then Hopgood which opened the gap.
That will get worked with but when regulars are in that doesn't get scored

 

[Iamback]

I honestly don't care if they've been drinking or not, but there is clearly a pattern emerging when you look at the last couple of match day threads.

Seems like they come in here and looking for an argument every week, even when people are agreeing (eg. trying to be most correct - see the "I was the first to call Tyrone May a plodder" sub plot).

I'm all for discussion, but the scattergun name calling and aggressiveness is a bit ridiculous.

That is my issue.

Plenty on here I don't agree with but usually they give their POV and that is that.

Certain posters need someone to be right and wrong. 99% of the stuff we talk about on here there is no right or wrong.

Take the Bennett coaching us debate that came up. There is no way to know if the side would be better off with him and Gus still here

 

[WestyLife]

You need to add the 2nd row and halves to the list of missed though for the full picture.

Take the Hoy try.

Kikau rushes out. Just stands there doesn't take anyone
That puts the gap
Luai comes to plug the hole
Tago rushes in but then backs off and falls for the dummy

That isn't one anyone player but a communication issue. As was their 1st try

Similar to the Sua try last week.

Even the Sloan try no one on the right even made a attempt to get the kick

Critter missed an easy tackle for Best's try.
SOS in Round 1 rushed out for intercept

So the misses down the right come to poor individual moments rather then issues in the defensive.

Their last try came from misses from backup players. Kenny missed the 1st tackle. Then Hopgood which opened the gap.
That will get worked with but when regulars are in that doesn't get scored

One thing I think Girds is 110% right on is kiks fatigue. Though playing 80 minutes a game early season might build his motor.

 

[soc123_au]

Some sooks in this thread, was a very cheap send off, yet to see an angle where he actually gets him high. Well played Smith.

Vote: Warrior Poet

 

[Iamback]

One thing I think Girds is 110% right on is kiks fatigue. Though playing 80 minutes a game early season might build his motor.

Where we miss Capewell.

You aren't going to burn 2 changes by getting him on and off again.

So you need someone to start then bring Kik's on. Who is capable of that?

Also though. We have injury forced changes the last couple of games

Round 1 he played 50 mins because we had the interchanges left

 

[The_Frog]

Bold prediction. Teddy downfall imminent?

Probably not this year but he's not getting any younger and hasn't exactly been in scintillating form. Mind you, neither has Turbo.

 

[Luke Bowden]

Happy with the win.
Tago and May are an exciting prospect.
Way to many errors and cheap penalties though, that needs to be fixed up.

Sully has been great, but I can’t wait for the return of the Prince!

 

[betcats]

Would you swap him for Burton?

Interesting question, hard to say on talent alone but given Burton always wanted to play in the halves so was likely to leave and Tago has said he’s really keen to stay here I’ll say no. Also would not swap Tago for the much hyped pensini.

 

[Girds89]

You need to add the 2nd row and halves to the list of missed though for the full picture.

Take the Hoy try.

Kikau rushes out. Just stands there doesn't take anyone
That puts the gap
Luai comes to plug the hole
Tago rushes in but then backs off and falls for the dummy

That isn't one anyone player but a communication issue. As was their 1st try

Similar to the Sua try last week.

Even the Sloan try no one on the right even made a attempt to get the kick

Critter missed an easy tackle for Best's try.
SOS in Round 1 rushed out for intercept

So the misses down the right come to poor individual moments rather then issues in the defensive.

Their last try came from misses from backup players. Kenny missed the 1st tackle. Then Hopgood which opened the gap.
That will get worked with but when regulars are in that doesn't get scored

The critta miss yeaterday was the due to everyone being dragged in.. you could see he was well infield marking who sos shouldve been.

He slid but not as quick as the passes.

Adding the misses of the 2nd row and halfs proves my point..

When kicks and martin or whoever is on the right is fatigued things get lose in d.

Our 2nd rowers cant be playing 80 each..

It puts way to much pressure on the halfs and centres trying to help cover them.

I just dont see the need.. wed get so much more out of kiks and martin in 60mins than leaving them out there to miss tackles and get lazy..

Its easy to blame the men around them who might be credited with a miss tackle stat.... but where does the issue stem from.

Tago has been fine when he hasnt been dragged in field due to lack of numbers.

Take the try of the scrum yesterday... luai didnt keep up and tago slide in to go to the ball carrier as luai wasnt there..

Bit of an isolated incident for luai who is generally brilliant in d. Made some great one on ones yesterday on frizell..

But my point in the centres are fine when its one on one..

When the inside men get tired and the centre and halfs need to help out is when it gets messy..

And it all comes back to ivan and his bench..

Salmon isnt a 2nd rower. So he is aprehensive
about bringing kiks or martin or smith off and it leads to fatigue

 

[Iamback]

The critta miss yeaterday was the due to everyone being dragged in.. you could see he was well infield marking who sos shouldve been.

He slid but not as quick as the passes.

Adding the misses of the 2nd row and halfs proves my point..

When kicks and martin or whoever is on the right is fatigued things get lose in d.

Our 2nd rowers cant be playing 80 each..

It puts way to much pressure on the halfs and centres trying to help cover them.

I just dont see the need.. wed get so much more out of kiks and martin in 60mins than leaving them out there to miss tackles and get lazy..

Its easy to blame the men around them who might be credited with a miss tackle stat.... but where does the issue stem from.

Tago has been fine when he hasnt been dragged in field due to lack of numbers.

Take the try of the scrum yesterday... luai didnt keep up and tago slide in to go to the ball carrier as luai wasnt there..

Bit of an isolated incident for luai who is generally brilliant in d. Made some great one on ones yesterday on frizell..

But my point in the centres are fine when its one on one..

When the inside men get tired and the centre and halfs need to help out is when it gets messy..

And it all comes back to ivan and his bench..

Salmon isnt a 2nd rower. So he is aprehensive
about bringing kiks or martin or smith off and it leads to fatigue

Comes to Communication. Maybe Luai likes to tackle from the side. In that case Tago should stay out. Someone isn't talking enough out there

Look at the 2nd rowers in NSW Cup today. That will tell you why we have none on the bench

Riki - had no pre- season was out for 4 months with a hip injury

Faiumu - 30 year old who has never been part of a full time set up

More options will come across the course of the year but right now very limited options

Chris Smith was deemed not good enough for an ordinary Dogs side made 19 tackles missed 0

Salmon came on for him 25 tackles 1 miss.
44 tackles for 1 miss for the a back up edges.

SOS was deemed no good enough for an Ordinary Warriors side. Has missed 4 tackles in 3 games.

So why has the right been ok but not the left?

The moment Ciraldo finds the answer we will be unbeatable

 

[Girds89]

That is my issue.

Plenty on here I don't agree with but usually they give their POV and that is that.

Certain posters need someone to be right and wrong. 99% of the stuff we talk about on here there is no right or wrong.

Take the Bennett coaching us debate that came up. There is no way to know if the side would be better off with him and Gus still here

100% agree. There is no right or wrong posts.

I think my posts on gus and bennett reflected that pretty strongly. I said that none of us knew the inner workings and none of us could no whether bennett wouldve been better.. i did say hed have had us up there..

I just find it frustrating when some posters, give one sided opinion to back an opinion they believe in..

As ive always maintained, i just call things as they are, from a non biased perspective.

Trust me, if tago starts getting carved up in defence ill be on here saying so..

I think theres alot of unconscious bias in here at times.. maybe my posts can be harsh but if people are offended on a forum than maybe everyone takes this all a bit to seriously.