Cagey Mac
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· I have put this forward several times. The only point anyone comes back with is that Hornby shouldn't be dropped because of how long he has been in the team and because he is captain, not because of his form or his ability as a halfback. Hornbys form is fine. Hed be in Origin contention if available. True theres a bunch of Queenslanders in front of him but theyre not in our team
Of course all I have said is to give the new combo of Stanley and Soward a chance. It's possible one or both will bomb out. No need for Hornby to be pushed into retirement immediately as Bennett did to Langer at Brisbane.
Basically what my argument comes down to is this: So we risk a viable combination in the opinion of all present bar you to play your choice of halves. Because .?
· Does any believe the team as it is now can win the competition this year?
The team one and all, the coaching staff, me and many of us here. Its a long season
· Are Soward and/or Hornby good ball players who can take the ball to the line and pass rather than run themselves or pass well before the opposition defensive line? They have been playing to Bennetts and Prices game plans. Won a premiership 18 months ago (Hang on wasnt that Carney and Pearce that they were playing?)
I think the answers for at least 90% of Dragons fans are "No" and "No". 100% for non-Dragons fans. Bullshit!
If the answers are "no" and "no", why not try something else? Stanley excelled at 5/8 in the juniors and in his one game there for St George in the top grade.
The Dragons already have one of the oldest, if not the oldest, if not the oldest my some margin, team in the competition. Bullshit!
You made that up! Heres a link to a relevant website, look and learn. Take Cooper and Fein out of the lineup as they have been and we have one of the younger average age teams in the comp. Retiring Dean Young is the same age as Cam Smith, Thurston, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk (the entire Storm Spine. Look at. Morris, Nightingale, Rein, King, De Belin, Stanley, Vidot, Merrin, Prior, Green, Marketo, Kemp and Co Theyre all 21-25. The rest are 27 or under with the exception of Hornby. 14 Origin players in 2012 will be 28 or over and include a 34 and 35 year old.
Heres the link for one and all to see. Do the numbers!
http://www.nospam8/rugby-league/nrl/players/oldest-youngest/see-all-age/
I think they should give it a try. Why not? Because it means dropping a seasoned player who in the opinion of everyone but you is doing an acceptable job in favour of an untried combo because Reyter and nobody else thinks its a good idea. I don't think anyone expected Morris to be such a good fullback but they gave it a try and look what happened. They tried Stanley and he didnt deliver. Even if the whole thing goes belly-up, at the least they know it won't work for the future. At present they will be pushed into a Sandow-like deal before seasons end without ever knowing if the solution to the Dragons play-making problems was right in front of them as it was for the fullback problem. On what premise do you make yet another unfounded assumption?
· I'm sure King wishes he didn't get a season-ending injury before last season even began and then break his thumb at the beginning of this season but it happens. I think the less said about your stupid comment in regard to this the better. My point was that Kings injury ridden career does not place him in a position where he could make demands that he get to play wherever he wants. I hope the kid has a fruitful career and Chase too for that matter
· The competition is close but again, do you think the Dragons team as it has been for the last few weeks and including Cooper is capable of winning the competition? If Soward and Hornby stay in the halves all season, I doubt the Dragons will make the 8. They certainly won't win the competition. To score 0 against the Sharks and then only 12 against Newcastle despite dominating them should alert real Dragons fans, fans who put the team above any individual, to some huge problems. There seems to be one person in this place that is putting himself before anybody else Reyter, the team, the coach or almost everyone else on this forum
Of course all I have said is to give the new combo of Stanley and Soward a chance. It's possible one or both will bomb out. No need for Hornby to be pushed into retirement immediately as Bennett did to Langer at Brisbane.
Basically what my argument comes down to is this: So we risk a viable combination in the opinion of all present bar you to play your choice of halves. Because .?
· Does any believe the team as it is now can win the competition this year?
The team one and all, the coaching staff, me and many of us here. Its a long season
· Are Soward and/or Hornby good ball players who can take the ball to the line and pass rather than run themselves or pass well before the opposition defensive line? They have been playing to Bennetts and Prices game plans. Won a premiership 18 months ago (Hang on wasnt that Carney and Pearce that they were playing?)
I think the answers for at least 90% of Dragons fans are "No" and "No". 100% for non-Dragons fans. Bullshit!
If the answers are "no" and "no", why not try something else? Stanley excelled at 5/8 in the juniors and in his one game there for St George in the top grade.
The Dragons already have one of the oldest, if not the oldest, if not the oldest my some margin, team in the competition. Bullshit!
You made that up! Heres a link to a relevant website, look and learn. Take Cooper and Fein out of the lineup as they have been and we have one of the younger average age teams in the comp. Retiring Dean Young is the same age as Cam Smith, Thurston, Billy Slater, Cooper Cronk (the entire Storm Spine. Look at. Morris, Nightingale, Rein, King, De Belin, Stanley, Vidot, Merrin, Prior, Green, Marketo, Kemp and Co Theyre all 21-25. The rest are 27 or under with the exception of Hornby. 14 Origin players in 2012 will be 28 or over and include a 34 and 35 year old.
Heres the link for one and all to see. Do the numbers!
http://www.nospam8/rugby-league/nrl/players/oldest-youngest/see-all-age/
I think they should give it a try. Why not? Because it means dropping a seasoned player who in the opinion of everyone but you is doing an acceptable job in favour of an untried combo because Reyter and nobody else thinks its a good idea. I don't think anyone expected Morris to be such a good fullback but they gave it a try and look what happened. They tried Stanley and he didnt deliver. Even if the whole thing goes belly-up, at the least they know it won't work for the future. At present they will be pushed into a Sandow-like deal before seasons end without ever knowing if the solution to the Dragons play-making problems was right in front of them as it was for the fullback problem. On what premise do you make yet another unfounded assumption?
· I'm sure King wishes he didn't get a season-ending injury before last season even began and then break his thumb at the beginning of this season but it happens. I think the less said about your stupid comment in regard to this the better. My point was that Kings injury ridden career does not place him in a position where he could make demands that he get to play wherever he wants. I hope the kid has a fruitful career and Chase too for that matter
· The competition is close but again, do you think the Dragons team as it has been for the last few weeks and including Cooper is capable of winning the competition? If Soward and Hornby stay in the halves all season, I doubt the Dragons will make the 8. They certainly won't win the competition. To score 0 against the Sharks and then only 12 against Newcastle despite dominating them should alert real Dragons fans, fans who put the team above any individual, to some huge problems. There seems to be one person in this place that is putting himself before anybody else Reyter, the team, the coach or almost everyone else on this forum
