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The Future Endeavors Have Begun

Misanthrope

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The weight issue was utter bullsh*t. The kind of rampant sexism that should make any woman with half a brain think twice about signing on to warm Vince's lap.

Not saying they should jump to TNA, just that Vince is notorious for his atrocious use of women as objects.
 

Bulldog Force

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The weight issue was utter bullsh*t. The kind of rampant sexism that should make any woman with half a brain think twice about signing on to warm Vince's lap.

Not saying they should jump to TNA, just that Vince is notorious for his atrocious use of women as objects.
Agreed! Mickie is better off without the WWE. She wasn't used right. She had no weight issues at all. I loved her curves and funky character. She was on par and slightly edged out Maryse, McCool and the Bella twins as my favorite diva (that's right, Kelly Kelly isn't in the mix for me). I can see Vince eating his heart out soon! Big mistake Vinnie Mac, big mistake!

With Shelton, agreed, he had amazing talent and was not entirely used right. Stole the show at MITB in 2008 and 2009, and wasn't really used right since losing the US championship. Will be a huge asset for TNA.

At this rate, I'm expecting to see a future endeavors statement for JR on it one day :(
 

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Mickie hasn't meant much since 2006 really. The entire diva's division has stagnated if not fallen backwards since the departures of Trish and Lita.

Benjamin hasn't meant anything since 2005. Another guy who became stagnant.

Knox was solid but beard aside had little going for him.

Jesse was a never was.

Funaki was everybody's favourite jobber.

Jimmy Wany Yang was on a road to nowhere.

Really, the E were just making room.
 

Misanthrope

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Shelton and Mickie's lack of relevance could (and should) be blamed on booking, particularly in Mickie's case.
 

Big Pete

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Shelton really isn't that good. Solid, but not great. The whole diva's division is poor in the E.
 

Misanthrope

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Shelton really isn't that good. Solid, but not great. The whole diva's division is poor in the E.

As a complete package, maybe. As an in ring worker? One of the best around when he's on his game.
 

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Exactly, he only ever seems to bring his A-Game nowdays if he's in a ladder match, even then, he was poor in this years MITB match (Christian, Bourne, Kingston, Ziggler and Hardy all upstaged him)

This year's MITB was just about the worst one in the match's history, to be fair. It was much better with six people in it.
 
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The MiTB has it's veterans who the WWE knows will peform. Unfortunately for Benjamin, the WWE cannot rely on (s)marks buying to see "their guy" (Matt Hardy, Christian, and Kane from this year) to carry the guy.

He has fans, though not enough to pay for PPV's. It will be interesting to see if someone like TNA or ROH will be interested in Benjamin or Charlie Haas, since Haas (from wrestling websites) seems to have recommended that Benjamin not re-sign with WWE and seek to move to another company, though that is probably more out of self interest.
 

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Personally, I wouldn't be putting everything on the line in the ring if I knew that the company had no faith in me being a star.
 

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Im a shelton fan,

Now having said that I will remain as unbiased as possible.

The WWE do not care about in ring talent, the WWE only want those with the Rocks Mic skills and a massive body from the roids.

You look around at the big names and the ones that can wrestle and main event have been in the business since the early 90s, the rest are new faces carrying the new tradition Cant wrestle, can talk and big chest = pay day.

If someone like bret hart had a crack nowadays (assuming he was 20 years of age) he wouldnt be over with vince and all the young kid fan base.

Its a shame, cause wrestling is important part of the WWE..it occupies the majority of the show..may as well have decent matches. The mainevents need to be headed by Y2J and Christian..basically those that can wrestle and are the complete package...not these big men that move like card board cut outs.
 

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Could Batista be next to get the future endeavour. Reports seem to say that he's almost done with the WWE.

Means nothing for TNA as he won't go there. I think big Dave is looking to get himself into the movie industry. $10 says he does a few straight to dvd low budget films with the occasional cameo elsewhere.

http://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1272255905
He'll go into acting IMO. However it wouldn't surprise me if he goes to TNA. He's already played a major role alongside RVD in 'Wrong Side Of Town' (2010).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1431191/

Strike me flammin' pink, you should see the way he kills Ja Rule's character in this film :shock:
 

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Im a shelton fan,

Now having said that I will remain as unbiased as possible.

The WWE do not care about in ring talent, the WWE only want those with the Rocks Mic skills and a massive body from the roids.

You look around at the big names and the ones that can wrestle and main event have been in the business since the early 90s, the rest are new faces carrying the new tradition Cant wrestle, can talk and big chest = pay day.

If someone like bret hart had a crack nowadays (assuming he was 20 years of age) he wouldnt be over with vince and all the young kid fan base.

Its a shame, cause wrestling is important part of the WWE..it occupies the majority of the show..may as well have decent matches. The mainevents need to be headed by Y2J and Christian..basically those that can wrestle and are the complete package...not these big men that move like card board cut outs.

The WWE is pushing Daniel Bryan and Heath Slater pretty hard. Ditto Justin Gabriel.

And conversely, they kicked out Mordecai/Kevin Thorne - he was a big guy with ability. Ditto Matt Morgan.
 

Big Pete

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The WWE do not care about in ring talent, the WWE only want those with the Rocks Mic skills and a massive body from the roids.

Mostly they want people with charisma. In-ring talent will only get you so far, you have to be able to connect with the fans. Oh and Shelton isn't even that good a wrestler.

You look around at the big names and the ones that can wrestle and main event have been in the business since the early 90s, the rest are new faces carrying the new tradition

Can't recall Punk being around in the early 90's...I think he was too busy being a fan taking photos with Steve Austin rather than wrestling.

If someone like bret hart had a crack nowadays (assuming he was 20 years of age) he wouldnt be over with vince and all the young kid fan base.

How many 20 year olds are main eventing?

I think you mean 30 and I doubt that. He wouldn't be the main draw, because well, he wasn't a good draw but he'd be there abouts.

Its a shame, cause wrestling is important part of the WWE..it occupies the majority of the show..may as well have decent matches. The mainevents need to be headed by Y2J and Christian..basically those that can wrestle and are the complete package...not these big men that move like card board cut outs.

Last time I checked, Khali is taking a break from the industry.

Orton doesn't move like a cardboard cut out.

Cena doesn't move like a cardboard cut out.

Mysterio...

I could keep going.

Essentially McMahon goes with those with tremendous charisma who can draw money and reactions from the fans. Benjamin couldn't...unless he had a ladder next to him. Did he get the best run? No...BUT if he was meant to make it he would've made it happened but he couldn't because he wasn't capable.

The WWE is pushing Daniel Bryan and Heath Slater pretty hard. Ditto Justin Gabriel.

The latter two are fairly rubbish.
 

Misanthrope

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The WWE is pushing Daniel Bryan and Heath Slater pretty hard. Ditto Justin Gabriel.

I don't know how much of a 'push' it is for Bryan these days. Has anybody outside of Mikey Whipwreck ever been able to get over as a result of a losing streak? It was one thing having him lose to Big Show and Chris Jericho - and another having him lose to Darren Young.
 

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