Tim Moltzen ... (war is over)

[possm]

Saints will get compensation for Moltzen.
Saints will sign Carney - thats why Carney hasn't signed the the Sharks as yet.

Hornby to fullback
Carney to halfback
K Stanley to right center

Stains with the comp in 2012

 

[coast_dragons]

Possm did you stain your undies with the thought Craney will be playing for the gummies.

 

[possm]

I am fairly certain that Saints have been waiting to see what happens with Moltzen. After now realizeing Moltzen does not want to come to the Dragons, Saints are now in the market for Carney. All we are waiting for is the final decision on Moltzen and the level of compensation determined.

Mark my words, Carney to the Dragons; it has been on for over a week now.

 

[Guvner]

The release is for the tigers to give. Everyone knows that. If saints chose to rely on other people to tell them about what the tigers might be doing is perhaps not the best way to carry on business.

If it were as simple as you say it would have been settled in the Tigers favor by now. The fact it hasnt suggests that the Dragons have been found to be in the right here but a settlement needs to be sorted out either between Moltzen and the Dragons or the Tigers and the Dragons.

 

[Guvner]

Ultimately st George are the ones who have to register the contract. Maybe they relied on assurances of the manager re the tigers release. But the tigers are the ones who release the player. They should have asked the tigers .

Why would the manager be in trouble for allowing to
To sign ?

Do you think st George would be in trouble for signing a player who wad under contract when they had made no attempt to clarify directly with the tigers that a formal release would be coming ?

The manager is the legal agent here. If he allows his client to sign a contract with another club without being sure he will be or has been released from his current deal he is in trouble. For him to allow Timid to sign the Dragons deal he must have been given verbal assurance at the least that the release was forthcoming. The Dragons dont need to deal with the Tigers at all, never did. It is up to the agent to acquire the release so that his client can sign a new deal. Humphries indignent BS is a smoke screen. He knows he is legless here. Thats why he waited till just before pre season to drop the bomb hoping we would roll over rather than have an unhappy player at pre season training. But we havent rolled over which is why this is still going. If the Tigers were in the right it would have done and dusted. The delay is finding a settlement.

 

[juanfarkall]

The manager is the legal agent here. If he allows his client to sign a contract with another club without being sure he will be or has been released from his current deal he is in trouble. For him to allow Timid to sign the Dragons deal he must have been given verbal assurance at the least that the release was forthcoming. The Dragons dont need to deal with the Tigers at all, never did. It is up to the agent to acquire the release so that his client can sign a new deal. Humphries indignent BS is a smoke screen. He knows he is legless here. Thats why he waited till just before pre season to drop the bomb hoping we would roll over rather than have an unhappy player at pre season training. But we havent rolled over which is why this is still going. If the Tigers were in the right it would have done and dusted. The delay is finding a settlement.

This.

 

[andrew9148]

Its st George respinsibilty to enter into contracts that are capable of being registered. If it's excusable for st George to have signed him due to what they thought the tigers were going to do ie release tim, it's excusable for the manager too.

St George never checked. They should have. They caused their problems.

 

[Guvner]

Wrong. No team ever "checks". They have no need to.

Its the Managers job to ensure his client is free to sign any deal. He is the legal agent acting between all parties. If he doesnt ensure his client is free to sign and allows his client to sign another deal he is at fault. In this instance however I believe Tauber had been given every assurance that the release would not be a problem. The Tigers going back on this assurance has caused the problems. There are a number of quotes from Tauber stating that the release was sorted and would not be a problem. Even one where he states he has been given a verbal assurance by the Tigers. Its clear he was given that assurance at some point otherwise he would have major issues for leading the Dragons to believe it was so to get them to enter into a deal with his client.

 

[Fingerbang]

Its st George respinsibilty to enter into contracts that are capable of being registered. If it's excusable for st George to have signed him due to what they thought the tigers were going to do ie release tim, it's excusable for the manager too.

St George never checked. They should have. They caused their problems.

I need a brick wall. Smashing one's head against it would have to be less painful than reading this idiots views.

 

[andrew9148]

I need a brick wall. Smashing one's head against it would have to be less painful than reading this idiots views.

Attack the man not the argument. This is what gays and morons do. Which are you ?

St George = losers

 

[Guvner]

Attack the man not the argument. This is what gays and morons do. Which are you ?

St George = losers

I am left with little choice but to do both. Your argument is baseless, its been shown. Yet you persist with your line of argument as if nothing has been said to counter it. You are an idiot.

One of the pieces of evidence entered by the Dragons to the NRL investigation is an e-mail from Tauber to Doust asking if they have received the Deed of release from the Tigers as yet. It goes on to say that if it hasnt been received then HE (Tauber) will need to follow it up with the Tigers. Is this sinking in yet?

 

[andrew9148]

I am left with little choice but to do both. Your argument is baseless, its been shown. Yet you persist with your line of argument as if nothing has been said to counter it. You are an idiot.

One of the pieces of evidence entered by the Dragons to the NRL investigation is an e-mail from Tauber to Doust asking if they have received the Deed of release from the Tigers as yet. It goes on to say that if it hasnt been received then HE (Tauber) will need to follow it up with the Tigers. Is this sinking in yet?

So are you saying that the fact that taub contacting st George to check to see that everything was in place to ensure that moltzens contract could be registered meant that the dragons suddenly had no obligations to run their business appropriately to ensure that all contracts they signed could be registered? So it was martins job to check everything was in place for st George?

 

[coast_dragons]

Andrew wanker tigers fan must be a moron only wankers support that team everyone else loaths them.

 

[Dragon_Taylor6]

So are you saying that the fact that taub contacting st George to check to see that everything was in place to ensure that moltzens contract could be registered meant that the dragons suddenly had no obligations to run their business appropriately to ensure that all contracts they signed could be registered? So it was martins job to check everything was in place for st George?[/QUOTE]


That is his job representing his client and also the club he is trying to sign his client to.

 

[andrew9148]

Wrong. No team ever "checks". They have no need to.

Its the Managers job to ensure his client is free to sign any deal. He is the legal agent acting between all parties. If he doesnt ensure his client is free to sign and allows his client to sign another deal he is at fault. In this instance however I believe Tauber had been given every assurance that the release would not be a problem. The Tigers going back on this assurance has caused the problems. There are a number of quotes from Tauber stating that the release was sorted and would not be a problem. Even one where he states he has been given a verbal assurance by the Tigers. Its clear he was given that assurance at some point otherwise he would have major issues for leading the Dragons to believe it was so to get them to enter into a deal with his client.

He is moltz agent not st George.

 

[andrew9148]

So are you saying that the fact that taub contacting st George to check to see that everything was in place to ensure that moltzens contract could be registered meant that the dragons suddenly had no obligations to run their business appropriately to ensure that all contracts they signed could be registered? So it was martins job to check everything was in place for st George?[/QUOTE]


That is his job representing his client and also the club he is trying to sign his client to.

He acts for tim and no one else. He is not acting for st George

 

[Father Ted]

He acts for tim and no one else. He is not acting for st George

Andrew do you think he's represented Tim well?

 

[andrew9148]

Andrew do you think he's represented Tim well?

Well what will make Tim happy ? Going to the tigers presumably . If that happens do you think Tim will be happy with manager ?

I think getting Tim what he wants is pretty important in terms of representing hi
Well

 

[Guvner]

So are you saying that the fact that taub contacting st George to check to see that everything was in place to ensure that moltzens contract could be registered meant that the dragons suddenly had no obligations to run their business appropriately to ensure that all contracts they signed could be registered? So it was martins job to check everything was in place for st George?

No genius, it was up to Tauber to make sure everything was in place for HIS client to move to a new club. Our contact for Moltzen was HIS manager, not the Tigers. We had no need or requirement to deal with the Tigers directly. That is Taubers job.

 

[Minh]

Wrong. No team ever "checks". They have no need to.

Its the Managers job to ensure his client is free to sign any deal. He is the legal agent acting between all parties. If he doesnt ensure his client is free to sign and allows his client to sign another deal he is at fault. In this instance however I believe Tauber had been given every assurance that the release would not be a problem. The Tigers going back on this assurance has caused the problems. There are a number of quotes from Tauber stating that the release was sorted and would not be a problem. Even one where he states he has been given a verbal assurance by the Tigers. Its clear he was given that assurance at some point otherwise he would have major issues for leading the Dragons to believe it was so to get them to enter into a deal with his client.

It would have played out like this, no manager would sign his client without assurances otherwise they will be hugely in the wrong.