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Timana Tahu ends union nightmare by returning to Parramatta Eels

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If he has to come through wenty then i am happy for that, i dont want and im sure tim doesnt want to be thought of as our savior. Let him play in wenty and if he is killing it then he will earn his call up.

In DA and Ossie we trust.


I think your delusional with your Tim Smith manlove but this post has a few good points.
 

benoir91

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Parramatta will look at third-party sponsorship to help fund a move to re-sign Wallabies centre Timana Tahu after the 29-year-old agreed on a return to the NRL club.
Tahu was approached by the Eels last week about the move after the club became aware of his disillusionment with rugby following his omission from the first five international games of the season.
His services have been required by Sydney club West Harbour rather than the Wallabies.
An Eels official told AAP that Tahu - who left to take up a lucrative four-year rugby contract in 2007 - jumped at the chance to go back to Parramatta and will sign after working out a release from his ARU deal.
While the ARU and the Waratahs expressed shock at the revelation on Wednesday, Tahu shouldn't have too much trouble working out a release considering the national body is tightening its belt.
Parramatta have told the Waratahs centre the salary cap prevents them offering him anywhere near the $400,000-a-year deal he was on before he left the NRL.
But the club say they are confident they can work out a plan with third parties, similar to those previously signed by Mark Gasnier at St George Illawarra and Newcastle's Andrew Johns.
It will need to be ratified by NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert before any agreement can be rubber stamped.
Eels second-row Nathan Hindmarsh, who played with Tahu before he moved to rugby, welcomed the move.
"He was playing good footy before he left and he is a big boy but I guess it will give Ando (coach Daniel Anderson) a headache about who he will leave out in the centres," Hindmarsh told AAP.
"I am definitely happy to have him back."
With the club also recruiting NSW prop Justin Poore from the Dragons and City Origin forward Shane Shackleton from the Sydney Roosters, Hindmarsh said the club's future is bright.
"I suppose this is the most recruiting we have done for a while getting in genuine first grade players and things are looking up."
An ARU official said Tahu's representatives have requested a meeting this week.
"We've heard from Timana's representatives late this afternoon he's requesting an urgent meeting to sort out his future and we will put that meeting in place as soon as possible," the spokesperson told AAP.
However, the NSW Waratah said they remained in the dark about the situation.
"We haven't been informed at all," said a spokesman. "We haven't even been contacted by him."
Tahu's lucrative rugby deal through to the 2011 World Cup was trumpeted by the ARU in 2007.
But injuries and a lack of opportunity for the Waratahs, who struggled to settle on his best position, never saw him reach the heights expected.
Ironically, it was only in the last three games of this year's Super 14 it appeared he found his niche at outside centre in the Waratahs' backline.
Tahu failed to turn up to Wallabies training on Wednesday but his absence was initially attributed to a shoulder injury after they were advised of his no-show.
He gained four Test caps, mostly off the bench, but repeated hamstring problems continued to plague his rugby career, including cutting short his spring tour of Europe when expected to be given more development opportunities by coach Robbie Deans.
With Tahu now heading back to the NRL, only Cross remains from the big-name league converts still playing rugby.
Wendell Sailor (Dragons) and Mat Rogers (Titans) are finishing their football careers in the NRL, while Tuqiri is next month set to fight the ARU in court.
The heat is now on the Waratahs, who have to find two players to replace their big-name backline stars for the 2010 season.

http://www.nrl.com/newsviews/latest...59/tahu-agrees-to-return-to-eels/default.aspx
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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I think people are confusing a few things with Tim Smith. His running game was not good, but Orford cant break a line either, he just runs through gaps that he sees, not gaps he creates. Thurston and Kimmorly both use the dummy and run plays on the edge of the second row defence. The reason why Timmy was so maligned with his running game was because he never game much variety with his passing games.

IMO, the thing that Timmy lacked most in his game was not his running game, but his short passing game. He would never use a short inside pass for his players, its those plays that create the most opportunities for halves to run. So its not so much that he wouldnt run, its just he rarely gave himself the opportunity to do so and thats his style of play. And if DA is happy with that style of play and can make it successful for Parra, then I would gladly welcome Timmy back so long as he keeps his head straight.

Back on possible signings, I keep getting this feeling about Carl Webb for some reason.
 

yy_cheng

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Mullen has a great running game, sure, but other aspects of his game are very hit and miss and he's a 6 anyway. Orford's is so-so, Kimmorley needs a good running game because he plays so insanely flat at the line, and Thurston and Prince are in a different class to be perfectly honest.

Let's go hypothetical here, and say we sign Tim Smith and he plays first grade at 7. That gives us, hypothetically;

6-KK (ball running is his best skill)
7-Tim Smith (deadly passing and kicking game)
14-Mortimer (ball running is his best skill)

Not to mention Mateo, who is a fantastic ball runner

So, in that environment, why does Tim Smith even need to run the ball? If anything, he offers (again, hypothetically) everything we lack in his kicking and passing, which are skills that KK and Mortimer are erratic with at best. He's the organiser and the 5th tackle option, and the same could be said for many sevens going around with the way the five-eighth role has evolved in the modern game. It has become the major ball running role, something Anderson realised when he tried the failed Hayne experiment earlier in the year. Most sides have a ball runner at 6, some are just lucky to have a top flight 7 as well. We can offer two excellent ball runners, so IMO our 7 doesn't need that skill regardless of who he is.

One other thing is that if Parra keeps with the 2nd phase play tactic. It even create more variety.
 

yy_cheng

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There was a post that the forward was considering Parra because he sees them as a possible chance of winning a premiership.

Anyone know of an outstanding forward who still hasn't won a premiership besides Hindy?
 

Eelementary

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Wow..Just...Wow...

As for the world class forward who hasn't won a title yet...It would have to be someone "getting on" (ie: not a young forward, but a forward with only 3 years or so left)...
 

benoir91

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TIMANA TAHU has walked out on the last two years of his Australian Rugby Union contract and taken a pay cut to return to rugby league with Parramatta because he is miserable playing union - and the ARU is only too happy to let him go.
Tahu and the ARU were both caught short yesterday when news of Tahu's plans leaked out before the player had told the union. But an ARU spokesman said last night: "We were contacted by the Tahu camp late this afternoon."
There were two years left on Tahu's contract, which was worth a base $400,000 per year for playing with the NSW Waratahs, with bonuses of $11,000 per Test. His three-year deal with the Eels is worth about $300,000 per year, with the prospect of it increasing if third-party sponsorship deals can be arranged. However, the deal is not dependent on those third-party deals coming off.
Tahu was apparently prepared to take a cut in pay because he was sick of rugby after playing off the bench for much of the last Super 14 season and failing to make the Australian team this year. He previously played four Tests with the Wallabies.
It is understood Tahu has a clause in his ARU contract that frees him for release at the end of the year if he doesn't play any home Tests this season, and with him out of favour and injured there is no chance of him breaking back into the team.
But sources have confirmed the ARU wouldn't stand in his way anyway, because it is keen to save money, which makes it a win-win situation for them and the Eels, whose recently appointed chief executive Paul Osborne went after Tahu as soon as he started in the job.
Parramatta are waiting for Tahu's release to become official, so Osborne told the Herald he was not in a position to discuss the situation yesterday. But other sources said Osborne and Tahu were friends from when Osborne used Parramatta's training facilities several years ago and Tahu was playing for the Eels.
Tahu, 28, began his NRL career with Newcastle, but then joined the Eels before signing with the ARU at the end of the 2007 season. He played for NSW and Australia in league.
Tahu was scheduled to have a meeting with Wallabies coach Robbie Deans and ARU high-performance manager David Nucifora yesterday morning, but did not show up. Nucifora and Deans assumed the meeting, which had been called by Tahu, was to discuss his recent form and where he stood with the Wallabies.
Tahu was also a no-show at the Wallabies training camp in Manly yesterday, with team officials explaining his absence was due to a shoulder complaint.

However, Tahu's main injury problem is to do with his hand, and it is understood he needs surgery that will end his season.
For several hours yesterday after news got out about Tahu's impending move, ARU and NSWRU officials said they had received no notification from Tahu that he wanted to return to league. However, after Tahu finally made contact, the ARU spokesman said: "He is seeking an urgent meeting to sort out his future with the ARU. He's also advised the ARU he's currently nursing an injury that will preclude him from training for the next two weeks. So we'll get that meeting in place and see what transpires from there."
The meeting is expected to be held before the weekend and once Tahu is cleared, Parramatta will make their own announcement.
Rumours persist that the Eels would be prepared to let high-priced outside back Krisnan Inu go if another club wanted to buy him for next year, but the club doesn't have to discard anyone to fit Tahu in under the salary cap.
The club has been working with NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert on how to fit Tahu in and will simply back-end his contract, meaning he will receive more in the second and third years of the deal than he will next year. The club will further consult with Schubert before the weekend.
Parramatta have a number of high-priced players coming off contract at the end of next year, freeing up about $2 million in cap space.
It was the previous ARU regime that signed Tahu, three months before John O'Neill returned in 2007 to replace Gary Flowers as chief executive.
Tahu's departure will hit the Waratahs hard, especially as it follows Lote Tuqiri's recent sacking from his ARU contract for undisclosed disciplinary reasons.
NSWRU chief executive Jim L'Estrange said last night: "We were looking forward to him [Tahu] joining us next year. Clearly, it would be disappointing news for us if he goes."

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/new...1247941961407.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
 

El Diablo

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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,25822724-14823,00.html

Timana Tahu sacrifices $200,000 to join Eels

By Josh Massoud | July 22, 2009 11:19pm

TIMANA Tahu is so disenfranchised in rugby he will accept a $200,000 pay cut to return to the NRL.

Thanks largely to a long-standing personal relationship with new Eels CEO Paul Osborne, Tahu this week agreed to rejoin the club where he played what was thought to be his final game of rugby league in 2007.

Pending a release from the final two years of his $400,000-a-season ARU contract, the 29-year-old will link with Parra until the end of 2012.

The Eels are understood to have used the last-remaining space in their 2010 salary cap - about $200,000 - to lure Tahu from next season. Osborne's phone was not accepting calls last night but The Daily Telegraph has learned he will meet with the NRL tomorrow to discuss third-party deals that can be used to top up Tahu's salary next se ason.

The remaining two years of the Parramatta contract are believed to bring the entire deal close to the $1 million mark.

Although Tahu denied reports this season that he was seeking an NRL comeback, his relationship with the ARU has been souring for months.

Only a moderate success in his first season, Tahu was benched for the Waratahs during this year's Super 14 competition and was overlooked for the Wallabies in recent Tests. He denied an approach to the Roosters in April, but it can now be confirmed that Tahu was negotiating with his other former NRL club - Newcastle - in the past month. He was also exploring options for a move either to Japanese or European rugby.

But his relationship with Osborne, who lives nearby, delivered another coup for the resurgent Eels. Tahu has regularly confided in the former Raiders and Dragons prop in recent seasons - and particularly during his struggles in rugby of late.

It's believed negotiations began in earnest when Osborne was appointed Eels CEO two weeks ago.

After yesterday failing to report for Wallabies camp because of injury, Tahu spent most of the day preparing to approach the ARU for a release. It is believed his rugby contract contains a get-out clause enabling Tahu to leave at the end of this season.

Tahu is expected to meet with ARU boss John O'Neill today.

In the meantime, Osborne will visit NRL headquarters to talk about third-party deals to make Tahu's return more financially attractive.

NRL boss David Gallop last night welcomed the former Kangaroo back into the fold but stressed there would be no "favourable treatment".

"We're pleased to see Timana back in our game, hopefully pulling on the blue and gold," he said. "We would be happy to explore any third-party agreements but that's no more than we do for a range of players.

"Certainly, there (are) no special arrangements for Timana Tahu."
 

mickdo

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Our love our new CEO!!! Well done to the board on a top choice that is already paying dividends :clap:
 

diab0lik

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IMANA Tahu is so disenfranchised in rugby he will accept a $200,000 pay cut to return to the NRL. Thanks largely to a long-standing personal relationship with new Eels CEO Paul Osborne, Tahu this week agreed to rejoin the club where he played what was thought to be his final game of rugby league in 2007.
Pending a release from the final two years of his $400,000-a-season ARU contract, the 29-year-old will link with Parra until the end of 2012.
The Eels are understood to have used the last-remaining space in their 2010 salary cap - about $200,000 - to lure Tahu from next season. Osborne's phone was not accepting calls last night but The Daily Telegraph has learned he will meet with the NRL tomorrow to discuss third-party deals that can be used to top up Tahu's salary next season.

The remaining two years of the Parramatta contract are believed to bring the entire deal close to the $1 million mark.
Although Tahu denied reports this season that he was seeking an NRL comeback, his relationship with the ARU has been souring for months.
Only a moderate success in his first season, Tahu was benched for the Waratahs during this year's Super 14 competition and was overlooked for the Wallabies in recent Tests. He denied an approach to the Roosters in April, but it can now be confirmed that Tahu was negotiating with his other former NRL club - Newcastle - in the past month. He was also exploring options for a move either to Japanese or European rugby.
But his relationship with Osborne, who lives nearby, delivered another coup for the resurgent Eels. Tahu has regularly confided in the former Raiders and Dragons prop in recent seasons - and particularly during his struggles in rugby of late.
It's believed negotiations began in earnest when Osborne was appointed Eels CEO two weeks ago.
After yesterday failing to report for Wallabies camp because of injury, Tahu spent most of the day preparing to approach the ARU for a release. It is believed his rugby contract contains a get-out clause enabling Tahu to leave at the end of this season.

Tahu is expected to meet with ARU boss John O'Neill today.
In the meantime, Osborne will visit NRL headquarters to talk about third-party deals to make Tahu's return more financially attractive.
NRL boss David Gallop last night welcomed the former Kangaroo back into the fold but stressed there would be no "favourable treatment".
"We're pleased to see Timana back in our game, hopefully pulling on the blue and gold," he said. "We would be happy to explore any third-party agreements but that's no more than we do for a range of players.
"Certainly, there (are) no special arrangements for Timana Tahu."


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...000-to-join-eels/story-e6frexni-1225753533328
 

diab0lik

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Honestly is signing tahu to a million dollar contract the way to go? i admit when he's fit and playing he's easily one of the best centers in the game. but if i remember correctly in the 3 years he was with us he had injuries every year, in fact i think he only played 10 games in 06. also i seem to recall in 03 or 04 he was out for a lengthy period too. arent we risking too much signing a injury prone 29 year old? he looks set to become the next minichello in my opinion
 

WestCoastEel

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Brilliant news, PO and DA are doing very good things for our club.

Very interested to hear about a further signing and if anyone is leaving.

I also think it'd be good to resign Kingston, the games I have seen him play he's done well.
 

diab0lik

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"The remaining two years of the Parramatta contract are believed to bring the entire deal close to the $1 million mark." i'm guessing its just a back loaded contract ala cayless?
 

Angry_eel

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Honestly is signing tahu to a million dollar contract the way to go? i admit when he's fit and playing he's easily one of the best centers in the game. but if i remember correctly in the 3 years he was with us he had injuries every year, in fact i think he only played 10 games in 06. also i seem to recall in 03 or 04 he was out for a lengthy period too. arent we risking too much signing a injury prone 29 year old? he looks set to become the next minichello in my opinion
was he even with us in 03 or 04? i thought he came in 2005.
 

diab0lik

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yeah in 04 b4 we bought tahu he only played 8 games and 9 for us in 06. So out of over 100 games he could've played he only played about 60. thats almost 2 whole seasons out
 
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