Time for Moylan to 5/8

[franklin2323]

Explain this year's timing then?

It wasn't until the Broncos game Moylan actually started playing well. It looked like a desperate ploy to get last year's form back

 

[OldPanther]

Smith, Whare, Hiku being fit would of given us options to do that. Edwards played a game we struggled. So don't pretend like we didn't look at him.

We struggled because he played a game against the Sharks in which we were missing a bunch of players.

Just because you think it is dumb. Doesn't make it so. The coaches speak to the players and as a Captain he would of got to play where he wanted

I honestly doubt Moylan chooses to play fullback by choice after mid season last year. The future of his rep career will depend on him at 6 and being captain under Griffin I don't think will give him that much freedom.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

Just because you think it is dumb. Doesn't make it so. The coaches speak to the players and as a Captain he would of got to play where he wanted

Your story here is just as conjectural as mine (that Griffin is a stubborn idiot and that excuse makes no sense given that an ankle injury is not "better" for a fullback, especially one that plays up in the line so much in attack anyway). So all we have to fall back on is how this season panned out on the field... and it's a shitty refection on Griffin.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

It wasn't until the Broncos game Moylan actually started playing well. It looked like a desperate ploy to get last year's form back

Because he was playing in a position that doesn't suit him? .

 

[OldPanther]

Because he was playing in a position that doesn't suit him? .

I think it was Griffin wanting a team structure which involved Moylan being less involved in attack.

 

[franklin2323]

Because he was playing in a position that doesn't suit him? .

Yet he was our best player most games at Fullback. He looked under done and trying to hard to me.

 

[franklin2323]

Your story here is just as conjectural as mine (that Griffin is a stubborn idiot and that excuse makes no sense given that an ankle injury is not "better" for a fullback, especially one that plays up in the line so much in attack anyway). So all we have to fall back on is how this season panned out on the field... and it's a shitty refection on Griffin.

You do realise halves and fullback has a different skill set? If he was restricted for most of the pre season and can't train how can he learn a new position? It is more then just playing

 

[franklin2323]

We struggled because he played a game against the Sharks in which we were missing a bunch of players.

I honestly doubt Moylan chooses to play fullback by choice after mid season last year. The future of his rep career will depend on him at 6 and being captain under Griffin I don't think will give him that much freedom.

The Sharks had SOO players out too. My point is the ave FG career is 52 games so they would of wanted to get a player right before bringing them in

Limited pre season. Being smashed and missing the 1st 4 weeks of the season would of been him wanting to be fullback early on. Once Smith, Hiku and Whare were injured we had no troops to move him.

If we had kept Soward or Seg had TMM fit. Hell even if Peachey was able to play 6 over Cartwright it wouldn't of been an issue

 

[mxlegend99]

Smith, Whare, Hiku being fit would of given us options to do that. Edwards played a game we struggled. So don't pretend like we didn't look at him.

We lost to Sharks. Not at all because of Edwards. Trying to rewrite history?

One game where he was fine and then he's gone. We got smashed in Clearys debut too.

But Storm and Sharks were the grand finalists. On another level to us.

 

[mxlegend99]

Yet he was our best player most games at Fullback. He looked under done and trying to hard to me.

He was our most creative player. His kick returns sucked. His positioning sucked and as a last line of defence he sucked.

That's why it was obvious he was a half. To nearly everyone.

 

[billypilgrimnz]

You do realise halves and fullback has a different skill set?

Yes. Do you? After all, you appear to think Moylan is a better playing as a half AT fullback. Explain that to me.

 

[OldPanther]

He was our most creative player. His kick returns sucked. His positioning sucked and as a last line of defence he sucked.

That's why it was obvious he was a half. To nearly everyone.

Yes it seems obvious. Silky passing game and is a good runner in that way that a good half does to put defenders/attackers in the positions you want. I can understand needing time to develop Edwards but that's happened. Going to Cartwright after TMM didn't work out showed the unwillingness and he did the move out of necessity rather than ever wanting to.

 

[mxlegend99]

I just remembered another fullback/winger alternative last year.

Zac Hardaker
DWZ
Edwards

But we had no fullback options other than Moylan.

 

[OldPanther]

I just remembered another fullback/winger alternative last year.

Zac Hardaker
DWZ
Edwards

But we had no fullback options other than Moylan.

DWZ
Mansour
Hardaker
Edwards
Peachy
Blake

That's a full backline and a cover player on the bench.

 

[franklin2323]

Yes. Do you? After all, you appear to think Moylan is a better playing as a half AT fullback. Explain that to me.

Not having to make decisions in defence. Or making as many tackles for starters. It is why the change to halves takes time and missing large chunks of last year hurt the move

 

[franklin2323]

I just remembered another fullback/winger alternative last year.

Zac Hardaker
DWZ
Edwards

But we had no fullback options other than Moylan.

If we move DWZ someone needs to cover the wing. Hardaker wasn't NRL quality neither was Edwards

 

[franklin2323]

We lost to Sharks. Not at all because of Edwards. Trying to rewrite history?

One game where he was fine and then he's gone. We got smashed in Clearys debut too.

But Storm and Sharks were the grand finalists. On another level to us.

Cleary made 38 tackles on debut. Things like that is what they use when seeing if someone is ready or not.

Edwards had 11 runs. 70m gained 5 tackles 1 missed. 2 line breaks and 1 error. Hardly anything to say lets change a team that had won 8/9 or something at the time.

Hardaker 11 Games. 1 try. 59 runs. 482m. 1 linebreak. 3 try assists. 4 offloads, 65 tackles 10 missed and 7 errors

Again hardly stats that would make leaving say JFH out worth it

 

[OldPanther]

TMM is officially gone so Moylan has to keep the 6 now right?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxSportsAus

 

[franklin2323]

TMM is officially gone so Moylan has to keep the 6 now right?

http://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl...utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxSportsAus

once the change happened was never going to go back. Who is the back up now is the question

 

[OldPanther]

once the change happened was never going to go back. Who is the back up now is the question

We have 3 halves, 2 hookers, 1 utility, a ball playing back rower who is a desperate stop gap and the best nursery in the country. It's not perfect but it's not panic stations either.