TWO new Brisbane teams

[greenBV4]

I don’t know, a lot of people in WA and SA seemed genuinely peeved that they missed out when they have better records on Covid and are “heartlands”.

Sure there would of been some people in those states a little annoyed, but majority of the teams and staff were in qld, and financial it makes more sense, deep down most people would of known that

I also think WA was forcing either all the finals to be played in the state, or a 2 week quarantine before the GF

 

[MugaB]

I think you may have beer glasses on when looking at Penriths crowds..

https://afltables.com/rl/crowds/2019.html

Inflated due to the anzac day home match and also the Adelaide home match, all the more reason they should be jettisoned into another state
Out of the 10 remaining games theyre roughly 15k which after winning the GF and backing that up that year says youre draw below parr crowds for your on field success, penrith came 10th but we drew crowds that would reflect that amount, dragons averaged 9k, if you look at the previous year, their anzac day test surely bumps them up, and roosters had a very low 13k average, and thats even with a 17k Adelaide attendance in 2018, and year before that anzac day home game 40k and Adelaide 21k, the attendances average from all home games aren't a true reflection of home support, especially when Anzac day match inflates dragons or roosters every alternate year

 

[The Great Dane]

Sure there would of been some people in those states a little annoyed, but majority of the teams and staff were in qld, and financial it makes more sense, deep down most people would of known that

I also think WA was forcing either all the finals to be played in the state, or a 2 week quarantine before the GF

I don't really have a dog in the fight, I'm just suggesting that we should be careful making such sweeping statements.

 

[The Great Dane]

I'd love to see the Broncos booted out. They've done more to hurt the game than any other club.

I was watching some news clips from 1988 on YouTube. The Donkeys kept trying to advertise their sponsor Powers in ways that were against the rules, similar to how Phil Gould held a press conference with a fridge full of Oak milk in front of the Telstra logo. Broncos thought they were too big to follow the rules from day 1.

Again with the revisionist history crap.

The Broncos were coming up with, lets say creative, ways to advertise Powers because the NSWRL and QRL we trying to strong arm them out of their deal with Powers because they had deals with XXXX.

It was a similar situation to the NRL trying to force the Warriors to drop Vodafone because of Telstra, except worse because the NSWRL and QRL were not only trying to strong arm the Broncos into dropping Powers, but into taking up less lucrative deals with XXXX as well.

Again the Broncos weren't innocent in this situation, and were very antagonistic, but can you blame them when corrupt shit like that is happening to them.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Feathers aren't as ruffled as the media would have you beileve

overheard a conversations at IGA yesterday -
"what do you think of the GF going to the gabba?"
"I'm fine with it really, it obviously can't be here"
"Yeah same, I think we owe it to qld anyway for taking on all the games and helping out"

I think you would find that is the sentiment of the majority of people in the AFL's heartland

What about Adelaide and Perth?

They wanted it and deserved it.

 

[greenBV4]

What about Adelaide and Perth?

They wanted it and deserved it.

financially QLD made sense, and as far as many can see they deserve it for accomodating all the teams.

I may have this wrong as I don't really follow it, just hear a lot living in Melbourne, but im pretty sure SA and WA refused to house more teams and games than they did, so basically the AFL only continued because of the QLD government. Theres also the issue I mentioned of those 2 states wanting everyone to quarantine before the game, that just wouldn't work leading up to a GF.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this is also partly a balsy move on the AFL's part to say "we are a national code, and heartland states won't get special treatment just for being heartland"

 

[Perth Red]

I don’t know, a lot of people in WA and SA seemed genuinely peeved that they missed out when they have better records on Covid and are “heartlands”.

perths argument was “we’ve got the nicest stadium”. Like that was going to be the deciding factor! WA govt refused to pay for it. The decision was an easy one for afl. They got paid, they’re building more bridges with an expansion state govt, they hope their Local expansion team will be in it. Brisbane was the only choice for a code that has a vision to be the national sport.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

financially QLD made sense, and as far as many can see they deserve it for accomodating all the teams.

I may have this wrong as I don't really follow it, just hear a lot living in Melbourne, but im pretty sure SA and WA refused to house more teams and games than they did, so basically the AFL only continued because of the QLD government. Theres also the issue I mentioned of those 2 states wanting everyone to quarantine before the game, that just wouldn't work leading up to a GF.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this is also partly a balsy move on the AFL's part to say "we are a national code, and heartland states won't get special treatment just for being heartland"

Palaszczuk has made a laughing stock out of Queenslanders.

 

[T-Boon]

I am not against Adelaide and Perth having teams, I just think it would be detrimental to the game if a new licence was reseved for them. We all know that heartland areas like Brisbane and NZ aren't going to accept a relocated team from Sydney. Too much history and rivalry between the areas for it to work. Adelaide and Perth don't have any history or rivalry with Sydney, at least not in RL.

Nine teams in Sydney works now, but there may come a time in the future where the economics and inroads from other sports drives one or two of them out of business, or limits their potential to compete with the other Sydney clubs.

I think the Tigers could benefit from teaming up with Perth. They're already a merged entity, albeit with one side of the merger almost dead. Keep the strong side (Western Suburbs) and ditch the weak arm (Balmain). Replace the Balmain side of the merger with a Perth consortium. Make it 50:50. Team could be the Western Tigers or Western Australia Magpies. Using the black and white colours of Wests would help the club stand out from the other sports teams in Perth. Six games in Perth. If it's a huge success bump the number of games in Perth to 8 or 10, with a deal for members in Sydney to have seats reserved for them when the team plays 'away' to the other Sydney clubs at West Sydney Stadium, SFS, Stadium Australia. There's less risk in this strategy than starting a team from scratch in Perth.

Great post except that I love the Tigers brand (pre the merge with all the ugly jerseys that has given us). Western Tigers would work. I also like the Magpies and it would be good if they could relocate and re-enter.

I also think parts of NZ (Canterbury, Wellington) would accept relocated Sydney teams or at least not reject them based on who they are.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Great post except that I love the Tigers brand (pre the merge with all the ugly jerseys that has given us). Western Tigers would work. I also like the Magpies and it would be good if they could relocate and re-enter.

The NRL could keep tre Tigers brand alive by bringing in the Easts Tigers from Brisbane. Brisbane Tigers, with the old Balmain logo and jersey. That way the Magpies can also be brought back and relocated to Perth.

 

[T-Boon]

The NRL could keep tre Tigers brand alive by bringing in the Easts Tigers from Brisbane. Brisbane Tigers, with the old Balmain logo and jersey. That way the Magpies can also be brought back and relocated to Perth.

Are East Tigers a big club? Well supported? Big history?
I don't know anything about them.
Brisbane Tigers. Interesting.

Play 3 games a year at Leichart?

 

[T-Boon]

That way the Magpies can also be brought back and relocated to Perth.

That is going to upset certain bogans in melbourne and will end up in court.

 

[T-Boon]

Sorry but thats total BS, if you want a team to branch out to cover half their home games in perth, choose a team that doesn't have the crowd numbers, im thinking roosters fit that better than panthers easily

Rugby League desperately needs a team in Moore Park to represent the city.
The Roosters have been terrible at doing this and have never got into the fight with Rugby and just let the Swans come in and establish themselves heck even the soccer team has done better. Given how influential Politis is they should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[flippikat]

The NRL could keep tre Tigers brand alive by bringing in the Easts Tigers from Brisbane. Brisbane Tigers, with the old Balmain logo and jersey. That way the Magpies can also be brought back and relocated to Perth.

Pretty sure the Brisbane Easts logo is identical to the old Balmain one. It's an interesting suggestion to revert the JV to Magpies.. but to be honest, it more accurately reflects the reality of the situation now that Wests pretty much dominates it.

Not sure if the rebranded Magpies should move to Perth, though.. I liked the idea of a Magpies/Bulldogs JV that was explored way back in the late 1990s. It'd unlock the west/southwest.. and allow for another expansion team to be added.

So perhaps...
Add Brisbane Tigers. Revert Wests to Magpies & do a JV with Bulldogs, add Perth (Pirates) and Adelaide or NZ2.

 

[MugaB]

Rugby League desperately needs a team in Moore Park to represent the city.
The Roosters have been terrible at doing this and have never got into the fight with Rugby and just let the Swans come in and establish themselves heck even the soccer team has done better. Given how influential Politis is they should be ashamed of themselves.

Again total BS,... Rabbitohs are only at homebush coz roosters are at moore park, rugby league and sydney wouldn't notice no roosters in the city

 

[T-Boon]

Again total BS,... Rabbitohs are only at homebush coz roosters are at moore park, rugby league and sydney wouldn't notice no roosters in the city

Are you saying you would be fine with no NRL team in the city or that you are certain other team(s) would move in there if the Roosters relocated?

 

[MugaB]

Are you saying you would be fine with no NRL team in the city or that you are certain other team(s) would move in there if the Roosters relocated?

Im saying the Rabbitohs are south sydney, based in redfern train in redfern, playing at homebush, kogarah isnt too far south from there either, and cronulla 5min from there, there's manly 15 mins north, and we all complain that we cant even get a team in perth, or another in brisbane, when theres a cluster of teams based around the city.
Bondi doesn't need its own team it could be covered by stgeorge, cronulla or souths..
Then you hear folks say titans should move to brisbane???? wtf, they are an hour south away.
Figure out the city, but don't suggest relocating any west sydney teams, when they cover greater distances of population, in comparison to what the chooks do at moore park

 

[T-Boon]

Im saying the Rabbitohs are south sydney, based in redfern train in redfern, playing at homebush, kogarah isnt too far south from there either, and cronulla 5min from there, there's manly 15 mins north, and we all complain that we cant even get a team in perth, or another in brisbane, when theres a cluster of teams based around the city.
Bondi doesn't need its own team it could be covered by stgeorge, cronulla or souths..

Those 3 should move full time to Moore Park when it is open and compete for the Roosters area and all the rich Eastern Suburbs folk.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Are East Tigers a big club? Well supported? Big history?
I don't know anything about them.
Brisbane Tigers. Interesting.

Play 3 games a year at Leichart?

Easts are one of the stronger BRL clubs. They have a very large and successful Leagues Club.

 

[reanimate]

AwFuL has ruffled a lot of feathers in their heartland by favouring Queensland and NSW. The last thing the ARLC can afford to do is get true blue RL fans in Queensland and NSW offside while AwFuL is lurking around trying to win them over. We saw how much damage was caused during the Super League War. AwFuL benefited nicely from that.

Why can't we expand into SA and WA and get some of those people who have had their feathers ruffled by the AFL onboard? We apparently always have to play defence, why can't we get them playing defence too?