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Week 3 Finals v Melbourne

Luke Bowden

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Maybe we should play him in at centre, when shaun johnson is on the field, or reece walsh stripping numbers on an edge for the bronx, then we'll see who's right at our own detriment at a possible 3peat
That’s a pretty dumb comment.

Tago is one of two best centres, so if he’s fit, he plays.

If he’s not fit, Garner is our next best defensive option.
 

Iamback

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That’s a pretty dumb comment.

Tago is one of two best centres, so if he’s fit, he plays.

If he’s not fit, Garner is our next best defensive option.

You could argue Peachey is a better centre than Garner, team balance we need someone to cover edge forward and centre off the bench.
 

Iamback

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You could argue it. You’d be wrong, but you could certainly try and argue it.

well no, There is no right or wrong answer comes down to preference

There is a lot of categories Peachey is better than Olam in particular though, who is a starting Prelim Final centre.

Yes he is a hog
Has more tries than both Melbourne centres and Remis Smith who played plenty of centre.

He has less try assists
More offloads then all 3
more line breaks than all 3
Has a better tackle % than Olam

However the side needs Cogger in. As a result Garner needs to play over Hosking and Peachey
 

Luke Bowden

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well no, There is no right or wrong answer comes down to preference

There is a lot of categories Peachey is better than Olam in particular though, who is a starting Prelim Final centre.

Yes he is a hog
Has more tries than both Melbourne centres and Remis Smith who played plenty of centre.

He has less try assists
More offloads then all 3
more line breaks than all 3
Has a better tackle % than Olam

However the side needs Cogger in. As a result Garner needs to play over Hosking and Peachey
Defence should always be your first and main priority when choosing a centre.

Garner is a much better defender.

Peachey is pretty good on the attacking side of the game, not amazing, but he’s ok.

Defensively, he’s well off off the mark. It’s not even really a contest.
 

Iamback

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Defence should always be your first and main priority when choosing a centre.

Garner is a much better defender.

Peachey is pretty good on the attacking side of the game, not amazing, but he’s ok.

Defensively, he’s well off off the mark. It’s not even really a contest.

Again depends on the circumstances, To beat us for example you need to move the ball and attack because you won't grind out a win

But yes Ivan is defence 1st
 

MugaB

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Defence should always be your first and main priority when choosing a centre.

Garner is a much better defender.

Peachey is pretty good on the attacking side of the game, not amazing, but he’s ok.

Defensively, he’s well off off the mark. It’s not even really a contest.
Garner is not a much better defender, thats the point i was making, you all think he is good coz you seen him at the wests tigers in at centre, but he grabs air most cases, i went to the WCC at the start of the year, and he had let 3 line breaks get thru, luai just didn't trust him after that. again he was at backrow for that game, but he aint a centres arsehole, why else would Ivan plonk hosking there a month ago. When garner would've been the obvious option..
Not sure why we need him over hosking, who is a much better defender wherever he needs to be played
 

Luke Bowden

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Garner is not a much better defender, thats the point i was making, you all think he is good coz you seen him at the wests tigers in at centre, but he grabs air most cases, i went to the WCC at the start of the year, and he had let 3 line breaks get thru, luai just didn't trust him after that. again he was at backrow for that game, but he aint a centres arsehole, why else would Ivan plonk hosking there a month ago. When garner would've been the obvious option..
Not sure why we need him over hosking, who is a much better defender wherever he needs to be played
I never took any notice of him at the Tigers. To the extent that I thought he played back row there.

My opinion is based on what I see.

Forget the WCC, Garner has now been in our system for a season. That’s huge.

I didn’t say he was a good defender, I said he was a better defender than Peachy.

I love Hosko, but Garner is a better centre than he is.
 

Luke Bowden

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Again depends on the circumstances, To beat us for example you need to move the ball and attack because you won't grind out a win

But yes Ivan is defence 1st
I’d be willing to bet that all NRL level coaches are defence 1st. That’s certainly what talent scouts look at first.
 

Iamback

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I’d be willing to bet that all NRL level coaches are defence 1st. That’s certainly what talent scouts look at first.

What is easier to teach x factor or defence?

There wouldn't be a player that can't defend, In Peachey's case he has played Origin. You get to NRL level then you can defend

So it isn't like you have a giant hole if you go the attacking player, It is what fits the side best
 

Iamback

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Ivan is clearly better than most at it. At the tigers beat roosters and storm when they were better with grinding wins.

And he picks players to match that style.

Fullbacks are an example, No way Ivan picks Walsh or Ponga over a fullback that does the hard stuff
 

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