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Western Corridor NRL bid

El Diablo

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-to-nine-network/story-e6frg7mf-1226113376432

Ipswich team takes its case for NRL admission to Nine Network

Brent Read
From: The Australian
August 12, 2011 12:00AM

THE Ipswich-based consortium bidding to join an expanded NRL competition will meet Nine Network chief executive David Gyngell next week as it looks to strengthen its claims for future entry to the premiership.

Gyngell has openly spoken of his preference for a third south-east Queensland team to be included in the competition if and when the independent commission decides to expand the game, most likely in 2015.

With that in mind, consortium members are keen to present their credentials to Gyngell next week. While the final decision on expansion will be made by the commission, the addition of teams will hinge to a significant extent on the desire of broadcasters.

The south-west corridor consortium, which is based in Ipswich -- about 40 minutes west of Brisbane -- believes recent broadcasting figures from the AFL, published earlier this week by The Australian, highlight the case for expansion.

Those figures suggested AFL attendance and viewing figures had risen significantly in south-east Queensland as a result of the Gold Coast Suns entering the AFL.

South-west corridor consortium head Steve Johnson believes another NRL side in south-east Queensland would have a similar impact on viewing figures for rugby league.

"We just thought we would go and air our case directly to Channel Nine about south-east Queensland and our corridor, just to create an awareness at that level that we do exist and that we're not Brisbane," Johnson said.

"Anything that a second Brisbane team can offer, we can match that and offer a lot, lot more."

The south-west corridor bid has taken a softly, softly approach in comparison to the other south-east Queensland consortium bidding to enter the NRL, the Brisbane Bombers.

The Bombers have made a host of public announcements.

The other regions vying for entry are Perth, Papua New Guinea, central Queensland, Central Coast and Wellington. Along with a second team in south-east Queensland, Perth is considered the front-runner because its time zone makes it ideal for television.

Johnson believes the game needs to seriously consider the south-west corridor -- which covers more than 1 million people in a triangular zone between Brisbane, Logan and Toowoomba -- or risk losing it to the AFL.

"The increase in viewers is disturbing for rugby league because it is a real increase in those involved in the AFL," Johnson said.

"It's also indicative of what another NRL side can do for viewing audiences."

As for the AFL, Johnson said: "Everything the AFL does is very planned and very considered. We have a chance to shore up the corridor.

"If not, there are 9500 juniors who are not directly aligned with an NRL club. That will be a happy hunting ground for the AFL."

Rugby league's new commission will take over running the game on November 1.

Their first order of business is likely to be the broadcasting rights, which will in turn mean reaching a decision on the timing of expansion.
 

BuffaloRules

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Show us the money Gynge...


Those figures suggested AFL attendance and viewing figures had risen significantly in south-east Queensland as a result of the Gold Coast Suns entering the AFL.

Is that right? Not from the TV ratings I have seen..

Bit sick of the AFL supposed threat continually being raised ... The NRL should put a team where it suits them and to maximise their earnings..
 

Brutus

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Johnson believes the game needs to seriously consider the south-west corridor -- which covers more than 1 million people in a triangular zone between Brisbane, Logan and Toowoomba -- or risk losing it to the AFL.

Why is it that every area where there is not a team, we're going to lose it to the AFL?? I thought Brisbane, Ipswich, Logan and Toowoomba were firm RL areas??

Maybe the NRL can target Ballarat in Victoria - there's no AFL team there. Then Ballarat would risk RL taking over if AFL doesn't put a team there.
 

juro

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That article in the Australian discussing increased attendances of AFL in Queensland are a joke. They increased the number of games by 100% (going from 1 team to 2), and attendances went up 20 something %. In other words, the average attendances per game fell by 40 odd %. But the article was trying to paint it as a win for AFL!?!
 

BDGS

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Show us the money Gynge...

Is that right? Not from the TV ratings I have seen...

On the attendance side of things,

After raising the amount of AFL games played in Queensland by 100%, crowds have gone up 28%. Which doesn't look successful for me. The introduction of the suns has also mean't the average Lion crowd for this season has lowered compared to other seasons, Although one could argue that is because of the success of the Broncos, Reds and Roar.
 

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The other regions vying for entry are Perth, Papua New Guinea, central Queensland, Central Coast and Wellington. Along with a second team in south-east Queensland, Perth is considered the front-runner because its time zone makes it ideal for television.

Quoted, it needs repeating again and again for some dopey types who are in denial about this (particularily some of the stupid anti-Perth comments in the Bears thread):

- Perth and South East Queensland are the only options that will improve the NRL's TV deal (edit: beyond having an extra game).

Not, "The TV networks want the Bears because of lost Bears fans"
Not, "Perth adds nothing"

In terms of TV rights, the single biggest factor, its Brisbane/Ipswich and Perth. The other bids do not score well on this front.
 
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docbrown

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This is a very smart move.

Word of advice to the bid organisers - take your population growth projections with you.
 

Goddo

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Yep, population growth, new rail line, Springfield being at a sort of junction of major highways in a huge growth corridor, possible new stadium and use of Suncorp over next 5-10 years, fastest growing region in NSW/QLD (a part of Melbourne is growing fastest currently), part of Brisbane metro area for TV ratings, huge juniors area, possibly an NRL connection with older Queensland clubs...

Look at the Queensland cup structure too. With the NRL booting Canberra, Manly and Melbourne out, there is a huge void created. Another side is a must to support the Q Cup teams (which also need a reshuffle). Possibly 2 more Queensland NRL sides are needed.
 

joshreading

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Great to hear all the positive talk!

Any thoughts on the geographical designation for the team?

Western Corridor as a team name sounds stupid. It means little. Western is too broad, West Brisbane excludes key areas such as Toowoomba.

Maybe South Queensland but obviously based out of the West?

Also how connected to the "jets' identity are the bid team?
 

Perth Red

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I'd like to be hearing a lot more from this bid.
What are there stadium plans
What are there Q'land cup link ups
Where are there fans
What corporate support have they got/targetting
etc etc
 

Goddo

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I'd like to be hearing a lot more from this bid.
What are there stadium plans
What are there Q'land cup link ups
Where are there fans
What corporate support have they got/targetting
etc etc
Red, we already know the answers to some of these:

Stadium plan - plan for new leagues club, stadium and trainning facilities at Springfield on the new train line. Funding guarentee already established from both sides of politics. However, it may take as long as 10 years to be built - in the meantime they will play at Suncorp.

Queensland Cup links - Souths Logan Magpies (Raiders currently, but have also flirted with the Bris Bombers bid), Ipswich Jets (Titans currently), Toowoomba Clydesdales (not competing in QCup currently)... there was also the Brisbane Brothers rival western corridor bid - they may join up with this bid.

Fans - will mostly come from the Ipswich-Logan Western Corridor that Gallop has talked up a lot in the past. As mentioned, lower-middle class belt with extremely high growth rate, and very high junior rugby league participation. Also, the bid will try to leverage some support from old Q Cup teams.

Corporates - this is the unknown. They appear to be keeping sponsors close to the chest. I guess they see other Queensland bids as competition.
 
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Perth Red

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Red, we already know the answers to some of these:

Stadium plan - plan for new leagues club, stadium and trainning facilities at Springfield on the new train line. Funding guarentee already established from both sides of politics. However, it may take as long as 10 years to be built - in the meantime they will play at Suncorp.

Is the new stadium guaranteed? What impact will playing at Suncorp have on a fanbase that live 1 hour away?

Queensland Cup links - Souths Logan Magpies (Raiders currently, but have also flirted with the Bris Bombers bid), Ipswich Jets (Titans currently), Toowoomba Clydesdales (not competing in QCup currently)... there was also the Brisbane Brothers rival western corridor bid - they may join up with this bid.
Thanks, some good strong clubs to be alligned with, wonder what the ownership model will look like?

Fans - will mostly come from the Ipswich-Logan Western Corridor that Gallop has talked up a lot in the past. As mentioned, lower-middle class belt with extremely high growth rate, and very high junior rugby league participation. Also, the bid will try to leverage some support from old Q Cup teams.
I was thinking more about what plans there are to engage fans now to show there is support for a bid from the region.

Corporates - this is the unknown. They appear to be keeping sponsors close to the chest. I guess they see other Queensland bids as competition.
I can understand this as we are largely doing the same though we have announced some partner sponsors and given general indication of a major sponsor who is keen to come on board with 7 figure amount.
 

rabbitohs

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On the attendance side of things,

After raising the amount of AFL games played in Queensland by 100%, crowds have gone up 28%. Which doesn't look successful for me. The introduction of the suns has also mean't the average Lion crowd for this season has lowered compared to other seasons, Although one could argue that is because of the success of the Broncos, Reds and Roar.


A 28% rise is excellent. The 100% more clubs comment is a furphy.

League needs to make sure we get it right. A 28% rise in any states attendace would be excelent. Of course WA and SA would be 100%
 

koal4e

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good bid and I hope they make it.

Smithie - why does a team have to have Brisbane in the name for you to support them? Just because its not called Brisbane but is in that area doesnt mean you cant support them!
 

BDGS

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A 28% rise is excellent. The 100% more clubs comment is a furphy.

League needs to make sure we get it right. A 28% rise in any states attendace would be excelent. Of course WA and SA would be 100%

Not really.

A rise in percentage has to be compared to against what else has contributed to that rise.

It was obvious they would get some rise, if they didn't that would mean that the new club had not only brought 0 fans to the game but taken away fans from the other club.
 

DINGb@T

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If I were them I'd be looking at shipping that particular roadshow around to the other tv bidders as well. There's a possibility that Nine wont be the only ones with League product on their station by that stage.
 
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