Why is the NFL so successful

[ElectricEelMan]

Why would I lie? nflzone.net is my f**king website your merkin. I've also got rugbyhighlights.net

There is no lying. You're intolerant. IGNORANT AND INTEROLERANT.

Because I think the game is sh*t I'm lying. how intolerant is that? Your hypocrisy offends me:lol:

LIAR!
You have no idea of the definition of 'intolerant' and 'ignorant' do you?

I am only intolerant of intolerant morons like you

 

[ElectricEelMan]

I understand it perfectly. And I can't recall denying my intolerance to the sh*t excuse for a sport.

The point is it reaks of f**king hypocrisy for you to run around using that word when you're doing the exact same thing.

I don't expect you to understand really. Like Americans you're subject to brainwashing from the same media machine. Last time I was in Australia I had to do a double take. Full of pretend-Americans.

You have NFI about NFL
It is so obvious to everyone, except maybe an ignoramous like you, that you have issues with Americans and anything to do with America.
Go to a shrink!
You need the help

You have offered nothing to this thread except ignorance, intolerance and pretentious wankery

YOU = IGNORED!

 

[RugbyHighlights]

LIAR!
You have no idea of the definition of 'intolerant' and 'ignorant' do you?

I am only intolerant of intolerant morons like you

But you are intolerant, and that's the point.:roll:

 

[RugbyHighlights]

RugbyHighlights = Poster Child for 'Why Sometimes the Dumbest Sperm Wins the Race'

I have ripped a turd smarter than you

A 'turd'? You did read the part where I claimed you were a plastic-American?

What next, you gonna call me a douchebag, dude?

 

[RugbyHighlights]

You have NFI about NFL
It is so obvious to everyone, except maybe an ignoramous like you, that you have issues with Americans and anything to do with America.
Go to a shrink!
You need the help

You have offered nothing to this thread except ignorance, intolerance and pretentious wankery

YOU = IGNORED!

Oh sh*t you got me. I have a problem with Americans. Damn, my mask has slipped. And here I was thinking nobody would guess.

Should have ignored me in the first place you septic.

 

[Raider_69]

Notice how the NFL fans can offer no reasons for why their sport is good as a counter argument?

I would suggest to you that 99% of people who enjoys NFL, like me, simply wouldnt bother wasting any time trying to sell you a product you're not interested in and have little to no idea about. Tbh i feel dirty having wasted these precious 30 seconds, when i could have been doing more productive, like bash my head against a wall.

 

[Eelementary]

Playing a full game doesn't make you better - would you say Fuifui Moimoi is a worse forward than Nathan Hindmarsh simply because Hindy plays 80 minutes a week and Fui 60?

So the argument that the players play for 5 minutes, have a break, play for 5 minutes, have a break, etc. doesn't really hold water.

The fatness comment is trivial, too - players with Matt Cooper-esque physiques would be good as nothing but a show-pony in NFL. Maybe they'd be a success as a receiver, but your nose tackles and offensive linesmen are all 'fat' for a reason. And while we're at it, 'fat' does not mean 'unfit' - science has already shown that sumo wrestlers, although overweight technically, are extremely fit and healthy.

So, what are the good points in the NFL? Well, for mine:

* The fact that you can never count a team out; if you're on offense your QB could throw a pick or your RB fumble and next thing you know you've given up a touchdown. In the NRL, sure - a halfback could throw an intercept, but it's less frequent.

* The tactics. It's complex, sure. But to me there's few things like seeing a real general of a QB taking control when they're down on the scoreboard and time is running out.

* The athleticism, particularly of DB's. Safeties and cornerbacks, in particular, have to decided whether to cover their man or cover their zone, and react to the play accordingly. The really good DB's can make a defence decent all on their own.

As Raider said, there's hardly a point in trying to sell the NFL to someone who doesn't enjoy it. But seeing as you were questioning why people enjoy it, that's my answer. Also, you can throw in showmanship, drama and testosterone.

 

[Eelementary]

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Notice how the NFL fans can offer no reasons for why their sport is good as a counter argument? They can only attack me personally. Shooting the messenger is an amateur tactic and won't get you twats no where with false claims.

The reality is that everytihng I've said about the NFL is true. The only thing subjective is that the NFL isn't a real sport. That's open to personal opinion. However everything else I've mentioned is true. You plastic yanks just don't like it.

Even NFL highlights are sh*t. Nothing impressive or entertaining. Same thing everyplay, ball comes out of the scrimmage line, token white man catches the ball, he feels lucky, he throws a fake, he reverses, omg quick they're gonna sack you! token white boy throws the ball... And the ball is either caught, fumbled or lands in the middle of nowhere.

The process is then repeated about 200 times throughout the space of 3 hours. You will see about 6 tocuh downs, all of which involve the token white boy receiving the ball from the scrimmage line and throwing it DIRECTLY into the hands of a catcher in the end zone.

Touch downs in the NFL are not exciting, unless the ball is ran from deep. Which doesn't happen often. On average about once a game I'd say.

NFL teams rarely run the ball with any real invention. If the token white boy doesn't throw the ball he'll pass it backwards to some big guy who will try to burst his way through an army of fat boys massaging each others arm. 9 times out of 10 he will not make it past the fat boys and the play will reset.

You don't know how much I've forced myself to try and like the NFL. Really forced myself. Won't work, the game is garbage. I'd rather watch tribute videos of the NFL on Youtube than watch an actual game. It's that bad.

The sport has nothing. It's inferior to all codes of rugby. Once you've seen enough games and the glitz and glamour of American football no long interests you then you too will lose interest in their farcical advertising vechile.

Their players are fat too. I wish people would stop pretending they're athletes because of made up NFL stats.

NRL highlights:

Player runs at line...Oh, my they're through! Offload! Try!

FFS every sport can be summarised in that manner. If anything, rugby league, which I love, is even more "same thing every play" than NFL, seeing as in the NFL at the very least you can pass, run or get the QB to scramble, whereas in league it's all go forward, pass back.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

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NRL highlights:

Player runs at line...Oh, my they're through! Offload! Try!

FFS every sport can be summarised in that manner. If anything, rugby league, which I love, is even more "same thing every play" than NFL, seeing as in the NFL at the very least you can pass, run or get the QB to scramble, whereas in league it's all go forward, pass back.

Exactly. Running at a line, great to see. Physical contact. Big tackles.

The one point you conveniantly forget is that the NRL isn't "run at the line, 30 second rest, run at the line, 30 second rest, run at the line, 30 second rest, run at the line, 30 second rest, run at the line, 2 minutes of commercials, run at the line, 30 second rest". If there was a scrum after every play in the NRL would you still watch it?:lol:

And that's one of the key differences. No one with a head on their shoulders will accept such a stop-start format. Only the brainwashed. You have to force yourself to watch the garbage.

You wouldn't accept it if you went to the cinema and after every few minutes they had 2 minutes of commercials. You wouldn't accept that.

But for some reason you're happy to see a bastardised sport with the exact same format.

There is no excitement in the NFL. No build up to anything. No plays where you have to watch through your hands because you don't know what's going to happen, can't bare to look. No prolonged phases of attack and defense. Nothing like that. What you're watching is a 2 minute commercial break followed by someone throwing the ball from the tail end of a scrimmage to a receiver. And in 3-5 seconds it's over. As simple as that, TD! Someone throws the ball to their team mate in the end zone. Or someone runs through a hole from 5 metres out.

Where's the excitement in that? Sure, you can apprecaite the complication and strategy I'm sure, but It's hardly exciting unless you have a vested interest in the team, or you like spending money on gambling. Then maybe it's exciting. Otherwise its pish.

You can show a high-paced great NRL game to plenty of non-rugby fans and the majority of the time, granted they don't hate sports, they'll enjoy it.

You take a classic NFL game and try making a neutral watch it, live, in its entirity, commercials and all. After an hour he'll be praying you turn the sh*t off.

It's a sport for dullards. Has about as much TV value as snooker.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

I think that not having sponsors on jerseys actually makes the NFL more money than having them on there... There is an intrinsic value that comes with a clean jersey and helps to sell a lot more merchandise it also boosts the confidence of the fans and corporates to invest in other areas of the game... Historically not many american teams have sponsors on them...

 

[mjk_898]

I think that not having sponsors on jerseys actually makes the NFL more money than having them on there... There is an intrinsic value that comes with a clean jersey and helps to sell a lot more merchandise it also boosts the confidence of the fans and corporates to invest in other areas of the game... Historically not many american teams have sponsors on them...

It would certainly boost the value of the manufacturer's contract - Reebok is the only company that can put their logo on all the jerseys.

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

Bitter, how so? Cynical, sure. At the end of the day everything I've said is a reality. If you want to attempt to dispute it and embarass yourself, that's your choice entirely.



Yawn. Have I ever tried to argue you against this? The point is the NFL is only a success domestically.

If England was the size of America and soccer was a pretend-sport used by advertisers to market their product then the EPL would obviously make more money.

As it happens because of the format of football(soccer) and EVERY other real sport in the WORLD, nobody can come close to making the money of the NFL.

But it's not for a lack of popularity or business acumen, it's simply because no other nation has such a blatantly sh*t excuse for a sport that offers up more than 50% of its game time to commercials.

The fact the EPL is practically watched globally, and the NFL is not, speaks volumes. Even with all that money they can't popularise the game sport outside of their own back yard. Because no other nation of people will accept the garbage. Only Americans will accept the blatant money-generating techniques employed by the NFL. You f**king try doing that in the Super League and NRL, tell me how many f**king fans you lose in the space of a few games. Any other sport would die if it were to copy the NFLs money making techniques.



It's nothing to behold. What's to be hold about it? The fact the NFL use their sport as a marketing vechile is not impress. The only thing impressive is the American attraction to garbage.

Once again I will say this, the fact with all of NFLs money it cannot make any real progress internationally highlights absolutely that there's nothing special in how they marketed and popularised the game. What's special is just how f**king stupid Americans are.



But why would I admire it? As I said it's nothing special. The NFL shouldn't be admired. The American educational system and culture should be laughed at and rightly f**king criticised in my opinion. Which is what I'll do.

I know I've said it already. But the NFL can't even popularise there sport in Mexico. What's to respect or admire? Richest sporting league in the world and they're unable to make any substantial international progress. It's laughable how obviously little these people know.:lol:

I'll say it just one last time. The fact the NFL cannot popularise itself anywhere else is absolute testament to the fact these people have a sh*t product and are clearly not marketing geniuses. They just profit and popularise themselfs on the back of American stupidity.

it works because its a slow and ponderous game thats brielfy interupted by moments of "intense" action.

.....and you are entitled to your view, sure.

and winter-olympic sports are hardly popular in hotter climes.

its of little care.



you know, people think sports are like empires....they are not.

they only try to expand the comp on a "you never know" basis. They are not out to conquer the world. its not a dick-comparison contest.

The average EPL stadium is about 30k capacity. Apart from a few that are larger. The average NFL stadium is about 60k+ with many around 85k. They sold out every one of the 256 games BAR NINE!

People are missing the point. And I will bring this back to RL in a moment. I am not mentioning stadia sizes, and the sizes of monies brought in for a comparions.

International expansion is done for them because their domestic market is basically maxed.....tv deal maxed, sold out every game except nine - a near max....sponsors maxed....

THE EPL move into china is also because they are maxing out their deals at home. Its only done for business bottom lines, driving up values, which is what they need to do in the world of busines.

so no one wants to play NFL....its an acquired taste, and most things about american culture is. They do things different there.


AS far as RL is concerned, it does not need to be. We need to max out our domestic market. Thats step one, while developing internationally on a smaller scale

 

[Shorty]

Oh great, I thought this guy was only polluting the international forums...
LOL It's almost hilarious to see someone who enjoys something so mind numbingly boring as soccer try and bag out NFL.

Hey, that's my opinion though, I'd prefer to watch a game with more than 1 point scored and the better team gets the win as opposed to having to settle for a 0-0 all draw...

As others have said I'm not going to waste my time, but clearly, if the NFL is the most valuable sport in the world and has people waiting 30 years (Dallas) to go to a game then surely they're doing something right.

It's tradition, the nation loves the sport and has been loving it well before advertisements were worth millions in the final.
They make their sport treasured because the cities aren't over satured, the home games are limited and non sell outs are blacked out.
The EPL doesn't contend, at least in the NFL with the draft system, every team has a good chance at the SB.

As others have also said, it's strategic, it's actually a thinking game and often games can go down to the wire.
Last few SBs have been decided in the dying seconds.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

lol just sitting back here watching ElectricEelMan go to work

The NFL as argued by a few in this thread is the most strategic sport on the planet - their will never be a sport as strategic as it, combined with some of the greatest athletes on the earth it's no coincidence that it's admired throughout the world, it's more popular overseas then Rugby League will ever be, fact you could take Detroit versus St Louis to play a game at Wembely and it would sell-out, you take Souths vs Easts to Wembely and it would struggle to draw 7,000 people - even though England is the birthplace of league.

I will be up early to watch the mighty Bills play the Texans - even coach jauron is an absolut farkwit of a coach - probably under his new 'club jauron' approach to playing, i wouldn't be surprised to see a triple end around on their own 1 yard line on 4th down - dickhead he i.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

a Bj Raji would probably out run most NRL players

 

[Teddyboy]

lol just sitting back here watching ElectricEelMan go to work

The NFL as argued by a few in this thread is the most strategic sport on the planet - their will never be a sport as strategic as it, combined with some of the greatest athletes on the earth it's no coincidence that it's admired throughout the world, it's more popular overseas then Rugby League will ever be, fact you could take Detroit versus St Louis to play a game at Wembely and it would sell-out, you take Souths vs Easts to Wembely and it would struggle to draw 7,000 people - even though England is the birthplace of league.

I will be up early to watch the mighty Bills play the Texans - even coach jauron is an absolut farkwit of a coach - probably under his new 'club jauron' approach to playing, i wouldn't be surprised to see a triple end around on their own 1 yard line on 4th down - dickhead he i.

Because people are suckers and will buy into any olde sh*te.Just look at Cheryl Cole getting to number 1 in England with her computer enhanced pop bollocks tune and thats after her awful perfomance where she couln't hit a high note on the X-Factor.

Millions drink Fosters Lager in England yet hardly any drink Coopers.

 

[Fui!!!]

lol just sitting back here watching ElectricEelMan go to work

The NFL as argued by a few in this thread is the most strategic sport on the planet - their will never be a sport as strategic as it, combined with some of the greatest athletes on the earth it's no coincidence that it's admired throughout the world, it's more popular overseas then Rugby League will ever be, fact you could take Detroit versus St Louis to play a game at Wembely and it would sell-out, you take Souths vs Easts to Wembely and it would struggle to draw 7,000 people - even though England is the birthplace of league.

I will be up early to watch the mighty Bills play the Texans - even coach jauron is an absolut farkwit of a coach - probably under his new 'club jauron' approach to playing, i wouldn't be surprised to see a triple end around on their own 1 yard line on 4th down - dickhead he i.

BOOOOO! GO GIANTS!!!

I'm actually cheering the Broncos to go 7-0 VS Baltimore. Over performing big time.

I have already planned a Super Bowl party at my house.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

Oh great, I thought this guy was only polluting the international forums...
LOL It's almost hilarious to see someone who enjoys something so mind numbingly boring as soccer try and bag out NFL.

Hey, that's my opinion though, I'd prefer to watch a game with more than 1 point scored and the better team gets the win as opposed to having to settle for a 0-0 all draw...

As others have said I'm not going to waste my time, but clearly, if the NFL is the most valuable sport in the world and has people waiting 30 years (Dallas) to go to a game then surely they're doing something right.

It's tradition, the nation loves the sport and has been loving it well before advertisements were worth millions in the final.
They make their sport treasured because the cities aren't over satured, the home games are limited and non sell outs are blacked out.
The EPL doesn't contend, at least in the NFL with the draft system, every team has a good chance at the SB.

As others have also said, it's strategic, it's actually a thinking game and often games can go down to the wire.
Last few SBs have been decided in the dying seconds.

Wait. What makes you think I watch soccer?:lol:

The EPL contends far better than the NFL. Check the international viewing figures.

As I've said nobody gives a f**k about the NFL but yanks and a few pretend yanks. Nothing about the league is impressive, bar the fact they've actually convinced people it's worth watching.

This thinking game sh*te is a cop out. So is snooker. So's chess. Doesn't mean there's any TV value in the games, does it.

NFL is not a thinking game. It's perfectly understood by 90% of the male population of hick America. You're clearly overhyping it.

And while I'm having a wind up in the international section for a life, everything I've said here is dead serious. The NFL is f**king pish.

You wouldn't accept any other sport with the format of the NFL. It's garbage.

If the NRL had the same format you'd stop watching it. But for some reason half of the Australian population have been brainwashed into a nasty habit of yank-beggery and defending.

The NFL is a boring hick sport that only the brain dead can tolerate. The end. No one of significant intelligence will sit through 2 hours of commercials and pish to watch a few minutes of actual play.

 

[RugbyHighlights]

lol just sitting back here watching ElectricEelMan go to work

The NFL as argued by a few in this thread is the most strategic sport on the planet - their will never be a sport as strategic as it, combined with some of the greatest athletes on the earth it's no coincidence that it's admired throughout the world, it's more popular overseas then Rugby League will ever be, fact you could take Detroit versus St Louis to play a game at Wembely and it would sell-out, you take Souths vs Easts to Wembely and it would struggle to draw 7,000 people - even though England is the birthplace of league.

I will be up early to watch the mighty Bills play the Texans - even coach jauron is an absolut farkwit of a coach - probably under his new 'club jauron' approach to playing, i wouldn't be surprised to see a triple end around on their own 1 yard line on 4th down - dickhead he i.

The NFL is admired throughout the world? Outside of the North America the Superbowl receives only 20 million international viewers. Is that admiration lmao?

I'll tell you right now as a fact, if the NRL had the money the NFL enjoys it would blow the NFL away internationally.

The NFL is the only sport in the world that's enjoyed absolutely ZERO international growth, despite the fact it's the richest league in the world. That's embarassing. League makes as much progress and we're broke:lol:

And the only reason the NFL sells out in London is because London is over run by fat yank tourists. And pretty much the entire u16 population of London wants to be American. As I said its brainwashing on a massive scale and 99.9% of people grow out of it. It's sad that you haven't.

The same people at NFL games sit around in their house watching baseball, nhl and mma.

They're yank-beggers.

 

[bobmar28]

I understand it perfectly. And I can't recall denying my intolerance to the sh*t excuse for a sport.

The point is it reaks of f**king hypocrisy for you to run around using that word when you're doing the exact same thing.

I don't expect you to understand really. Like Americans you're subject to brainwashing from the same media machine. Last time I was in Australia I had to do a double take. Full of pretend-Americans.

Where the f**k are you?