Would Greg Bird Be Cheesed Off Right Now

[stuke]

Dont know about Sam getting dropped but on a scale 1-10
Missing training 10
Investigation over sexual assault/ rape 1.

Piss poor.

Sam was dropped from the Warriors game this year for sleeping in, but...

:?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/nrl/story/0,26746,24142631-5016379,00.html

 

[t1tan]

Maybe Ill get some woman to make "allegations" against Anasta in Auckland this week just so he gets stood down until the "allegations" are proved otherwise. :roll:

Funny thing,when my wife first heard this she asked if the girl involved is a melbourne fan..

 

[Surely]

So "Lanfranci" should have been stood down by the Titans even though the charge related to when he was at the Tigers?
Why should the Titans suffer for indescretions not committed at their club?
Any other names?

What difference does it make, going by your standards if a player is charged he is stood down, do you want to make exceptions now ?

 

[8Ball]

So he is saying that isn't bad enough to deserve suspension. Anyone that films a women without their consent is a piece of scum.

How does that mean he's defending it? He is saying its not bad as glassing a woman in the eye.

 

[Dr.J]

The most amazing thing about this case is that the Qld Police Minister has publicly given full support to the Broncos and their players over the incident. If a Qld journo wrote an article suggesting that the players should be presumed innocent and let off to play because they were good blokes from a good team, then the journo would rightly be in contempt of court for prejudical statements. However, the Police Minister, who is the ultimate boss of the cops who have to assess the incident, has come out publicly in support of 'our boys'.

Mark it down as one further outrageous advantage the Broncos have. There was never, nor should there have been, any political support for the Bulldogs over the Coffs Harbour scandal.

A police minister who tosses in character and club references prior to a decision by the police on whether charges should be laid is totally out of line. This would be appropriate conduct in China but is completely outrageous in Australia.

 

[Fathead]

Sacked, not dropped.

If the reports are true, it's ironic that she was happy to f**k them yet when they start filming it's suddenly assault?

Bizarre.

I dont think that this is what happened.

 

[Surely]

Any other names?

I think pommeroy has an assault charge laid against him.

Watmough has an avo on him for allegedly assaulting his ex 3 times

Michael Crockitt charged with rape.

Ben Roberts resistting arrest, attempting to assault a police officer.

All still able to play on, is that enough for you ?

 

[Bazal]

Tilse had a perfect record.

And the other circumstances of the sacking? How do we, as the public, know the full story when the player is pretty much a guy no one cares to report about?

And how do you know that the girl in this scenario willing engaged to begin with or not?

According to police reports, on Saturday night three Broncos players agreed to go into a toilet cubicle at the Alhambra Lounge, in Fortitude Valley, with a woman to receive oral sex. The woman then agreed to engage in full sex with two players.
During this, the third player pulled out his mobile phone and began filming. It is believed this is what upset the woman, who believed it had now gone beyond consensual.
Urged by her friend, she later filed a police complaint.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24351269-5006066,00.html

And even if she didn't it makes no difference. Someone sexually assaulting someone after consensual activity is just as bad as assaulting someone without initial consent.

It casts reasonable doubt on the accusation.

No one has ever said that the only infringment was filming it.

During this, the third player pulled out his mobile phone and began filming. It is believed this is what upset the woman

Above link.

 

[t1tan]

So,thats four different players at four different clubs that didnt do the same as cronulla? :roll:
Wow how can they live with themselves

 

[Fathead]

During this, the third player pulled out his mobile phone and began filming. It is believed this is what upset the woman

Above link.

Very close Bazal but not quite right.

 

[bartman]

I think pommeroy has an assault charge laid against him.

Your first good/valid point of comparison. Pity it is also a Sharks player...

Given that the Sharks have allowed Pommeroy to play on while waiting a charge to be heard, but stood down Bird in the same circumstance, then it's a bit hard for you to use Bird as an example to have a go a Brisbane yet, when their guys have not been charged over the incident at the present time.

If the Broncos persist in playing these guys if charges are laid, then yes you'll have a valid point. But until then, replace the words "Hunt", "Thaiday", and the other one with "Pommeroy" everytime you post, and see for yourself if your arguments aren't even more valid then.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

i doubt birdy would be cheesed ... he'd probably be glassed instead roflmaohahahahahahausfhhfdksefuwfguwds -dead

 

[Razor]

During this, the third player pulled out his mobile phone and began filming. It is believed this is what upset the woman

Above link.

Do you know what "It is believed this ..." means?

The most amazing thing about this case is that the Qld Police Minister has publicly given full support to the Broncos and their players over the incident. If a Qld journo wrote an article suggesting that the players should be presumed innocent and let off to play because they were good blokes from a good team, then the journo would rightly be in contempt of court for prejudical statements. However, the Police Minister, who is the ultimate boss of the cops who have to assess the incident, has come out publicly in support of 'our boys'.

Yep absolutely disgusting. She should be immediately sacked.

Maybe Ill get some woman to make "allegations" against Anasta in Auckland this week just so he gets stood down until the "allegations" are proved otherwise. :roll:

Making a false complaint to police is a criminal offense. Getting someone else to(by payment, etc.) is also a criminal offense.

Surely shows you the calibre of people who support the Broncos trio.

 

[Razor]

If the Broncos persist in playing these guys if charges are laid, then yes you'll have a valid point. But until then, replace the words "Hunt", "Thaiday", and the other one with "Pommeroy" everytime you post, and see for yourself if your arguments aren't even more valid then.

You don't see the point.

No other club comes out and says how tough they are on player behavior. They even released a press release when these allegations were first made, list 5 players the last 13 years they've sacked for off-field issues to prove their point. (even though 4 of them were fringe first-graders at best and other clubs have also sacked that many in the same period).

If the Broncos acted like a normal club and didn't try and portray themselves as better than anyone else, then this wouldn't be an issue. They should keep playing. But they're constantly carping on about this issue, so let their actions do the talking.

 

[Bazal]

Do you know what "It is believed this ..." means?

Can you actually read?

According to police reports, on Saturday night three Broncos players agreed to go into a toilet cubicle at the Alhambra Lounge, in Fortitude Valley, with a woman to receive oral sex. The woman then agreed to engage in full sex with two players.
During this, the third player pulled out his mobile phone and began filming. It is believed this is what upset the woman, who believed it had now gone beyond consensual.

Do you consider the police report on the matter to be a credible source from which to form a conclusion?

 

[Razor]

Can you actually read?



Do you consider the police report on the matter to be a credible source from which to form a conclusion?

Can you read?

The Police report you posted says "It is believed this ..."

So I ask again do you know what "It is believed this ...", which means they think that's it, but not sure.

 

[Bazal]

Can you read?

The Police report you posted says "It is believed this ..."

So I ask again do you know what "It is believed this ...", which means they think that's it, but not sure.

Comprehension, or indeed, the English language as a whole, is not your strong suit I see...

 

[BWNB]

Sam was dropped from the Warriors game this year for sleeping in, but...

:?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/nrl/story/0,26746,24142631-5016379,00.html

Even worse, i wonder how they can justify the selection of the 3 involved.

 

[Razor]

Comprehension, or indeed, the English language as a whole, is not your strong suit I see...

Says the person that doesn't know what "it is believed this ..." means.

 

[Bazal]

Says the person that doesn't know what "it is believed this ..." means.

Let me spell it out for you genius;

From the police report-
-Woman engaged in consensual oral sex with the players
-Woman then agreed to intercourse with two of the players
-Third player began filming, which the woman didn't like
-Woman was then persuaded by a friend to make a complaint

From this information, the conclusion is drawn that the filming is what the woman had issues with. This conclusion is not a part of the police report, which only states facts, but one drawn by the author(s) of the article.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,24351269-5006066,00.html

You said

No one has ever said that the only infringement was filming it

Which was wrong, given the author(s) of this article have, from the evidence presented in the police report, said just that. Which is precisely what I was saying

Obviously, as I said, you have an issue with comprehension, seeing as I've had to spell it out step by step so that your feeble, more than slightly geniused little mind can process it.

I'll accept an admission of error on your part......:lol::lol: