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4th Test: Australia v India at Adelaide Jan 24-28, 2012

chrisD

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Clarke makes downy decisions so there's no accounting for what he might do, but by all measures of logic we should bat into day 3.
 

Red&BlackBear

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Geez Brayshaw is an numbnut... "this is not the place to bowl to Ricky Ponting"... Hey numbnut you realize that it's Clarke facing not Ponting..
 

IanG

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The record doesn't mean that much to Australian cricket. Bradman's 334 and Taylor's 334no are more revered than Hayden's bully score of 380. Winning is what has mattered more to Australia than records in the past.

Meanwhile old Bill is about to have an orgasm on air.

Yeah cuz Haydos's 380 was against the Zimbots where as the 2 334s were against good opposition and outside Australia. Bradman's in England Tubby's in Pakistan
 

AlwaysGreen

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Clarke makes downy decisions so there's no accounting for what he might do, but by all measures of logic we should bat into day 3.

What logic? We are on top, 400 runs on the board in the first hour on the second day with 7 wickets in hand. The acceleration is already on, we will be near 600 just after tea. If that's not enough, batting on into a 3rd day isn't going to help our bowlers bowl them out.
 

yappy

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We should be batting well into day 3, there should be left no chance to have to bat again. All assuming we don't get out.

Nah, trying to take 20 wickets without giving your bowlers even half a day rest is a recipe for broken bowlers on this pitch. 550-600 runs then have a bowl and hope you can lead by 150+ (this is f**king road, even a dispirited India should give 400 a nudge here). Bat half a day and set 300 on day 5 when the pitch should be low and have uneven bounce. That's been a pretty successful method at Adelaide for some time. The highest successful chase was 315 back in 1902, the next highest being 236 in 82. No one has survived 90 overs in the 4th innings since 98.
 

yappy

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Taylor made 334 on a f**king highway. Ijaz Ahmed made about 200 in his innings

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exactly Peshawar makes this Adelaide pitch look like Hobart v the kiwis. Great knock for the sheer concentration, but there were a lot of runs made by both sides. Famous more for the number he declared on rather than any effect it had on the result.
 

yappy

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A few balls this morning have kept a bit low. Just outside off stump.

Yeah the uneven bounce has started, but it will still be good to bat on for day 3 and only starting to really get really tough day 4. Wouldn't want to be chasing even 200 on day 5.
 

chrisD

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What logic? We are on top, 400 runs on the board in the first hour on the second day with 7 wickets in hand. The acceleration is already on, we will be near 600 just after tea. If that's not enough, batting on into a 3rd day isn't going to help our bowlers bowl them out.

It all but removes the possibility of having to bat again and post more runs, more runs in less favourable conditions when we want India to be batting.
 

typicalfan

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It all but removes the possibility of having to bat again and post more runs, more runs in less favourable conditions when we want India to be batting.
We want to bat again, unless you think having our bowlers bowling in 2-3 days of 38c is a good plan.
 

AlwaysGreen

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It all but removes the possibility of having to bat again and post more runs, more runs in less favourable conditions when we want India to be batting.

I think that even if we did have to bat again it would be a very minimal total. Despite the way they've batted in the 1st 3 tests these Indian batsmen can bat and like ponting it's just a matter of time before they strike form. You want as much time as possible to get them out.
 

typicalfan

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Yeah cuz Haydos's 380 was against the Zimbots where as the 2 334s were against good opposition and outside Australia. Bradman's in England Tubby's in Pakistan
But Taylors ended in a draw because we batted too long, and that was until the end of day 2. Haydens 380 is more valuable because we won. No point scoring runs if it doesn't win you the game.
 

AlwaysGreen

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But Taylors ended in a draw because we batted too long, and that was until the end of day 2. Haydens 380 is more valuable because we won. No point scoring runs if it doesn't win you the game.

Hayden could have scored 80 and we still would have won.
 

Earl

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If Michael Clarke is dismissed for anything above 238 he will average more than 50 in Test cricket
 

yappy

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But Taylors ended in a draw because we batted too long, and that was until the end of day 2. Haydens 380 is more valuable because we won. No point scoring runs if it doesn't win you the game.

If both teams declared their first innings at 0/0 in Peshawar the game probably still would have ended in a draw. One of the most lifeless tracks in the history of test cricket. Only 18 wickets fell in the game for over 1350 runs.
 

AlwaysGreen

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That is the one thing that does take the gloss of Haydens record, and that is true. I would take Clarkeys 329 over Taylors 334 though.

Me too, Clarke's innings was one of the best I've seen. If Taylor had scored 333 or 335 it wouldn't be as well remembered.
 
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