Aust v India test series discussion thread

[Y2Eel]

Heard him interviewed on grandstand after the game yesterday and he prefers to open now. Could be good timing for him.

He prefers it as the only other option CA have as an opener is Hughes, Smart move if he continues with this form He will be next in line.

 

[Rabbits20]

There is absolutely no way Hartley would average more than 20-25 at test level. That is pretty average for a keeper.

Neville or Paine wouldn't average more than Hartley either.

Whiteman is one for the future but needs a few more years to develop and further improve his batting.

Haddin averaging 34 deserves this summer in the 4 tests.

If he fails Wade is next in line. More handy with the bat than the others in contention. His wicket keeping will get better too I think.

 

[Twizzle]

Seven News are reporting that Clarkey needs surgery and will be out for the summer.

 

[Rabbits20]

Hartley today 0 from 2 balls.

Whiteman 19 off 50 something balls.

Those performances won't get either of them out of state cricket.


I honestly think in Sheffield Shield the best batsmen keeper is Peter Nevill and the most consistent. Hopefully in the next couple of years he gets an opportunity.

 

[Rabbits20]

Seven News are reporting that Clarkey needs surgery and will be out for the summer.

That's a shock because yesterday I heard its not that bad and he could play the 1st or 2nd test.

I guess captaincy in tests will go to Haddin if fit or Smith.

 

[Twizzle]

yeh, Boof said yesterday that he would be backing Clarkey to play in the first test but the scan results weren't in when he said that

 

[Red Bear]

Neville or Paine wouldn't average more than Hartley either.

Whiteman is one for the future but needs a few more years to develop and further improve his batting.

Haddin averaging 34 deserves this summer in the 4 tests.

If he fails Wade is next in line. More handy with the bat than the others in contention. His wicket keeping will get better too I think.

Hartley today 0 from 2 balls.

Whiteman 19 off 50 something balls.

Those performances won't get either of them out of state cricket.


I honestly think in Sheffield Shield the best batsmen keeper is Peter Nevill and the most consistent. Hopefully in the next couple of years he gets an opportunity.

Hartley also made 145* or something two matches ago. Averaged 34 last year and has generally been acceptable. His keeping is much, much better than Haddins (which brings value of its own).

Nevill is a good bat, averaged 40 last year and a 50 a few seasons ago, had a poor 2012/13, he'd do a reasonable job.

Haddin, on the other hand, may average 34 but he' only averaged 30.4 since coming back into the test side (over the last 16 tests). He scored just 500 of the 821 runs in that time in 5 tests in Australia, otherwise averaged 20 odd in England, under 12 over his past 5 tests. Of further concern is him getting bowled alot of the time - a sign that the reflexes are on the wane, something also evident in his keeping in the UAE.

Haddin also only averaged 23.5 before his replacement by Wade (his keeping also poor then) - it was a reasonable decision that didn't work out.

I'm happy for Haddin to be there in Clarkes absence, because I don't want Smith captain yet (have huge wraps on him, think it's better for him to just keep concentrating on his role as a batsmen at present). His career average of 34 means shit at this point, he's been on the wane, outside a magical series against England last summer, for a long time and he simply isn't way ahead of the competition.

 

[madunit]

Show at 3, Big Bear at 4, Scissorhands as keeper. All the pieces are falling into place.

or apart

 

[TheParraboy]

They may go for Sunshine as captain (if they feel Smiths time is too early)

 

[madunit]

No way would they go to Watson for the captaincy after they took the VC off him.

Haddin will be captain with Smith his deputy

 

[Rabbits20]

Hartley also made 145* or something two matches ago. Averaged 34 last year and has generally been acceptable. His keeping is much, much better than Haddins (which brings value of its own).

Nevill is a good bat, averaged 40 last year and a 50 a few seasons ago, had a poor 2012/13, he'd do a reasonable job.

Haddin, on the other hand, may average 34 but he' only averaged 30.4 since coming back into the test side (over the last 16 tests). He scored just 500 of the 821 runs in that time in 5 tests in Australia, otherwise averaged 20 odd in England, under 12 over his past 5 tests. Of further concern is him getting bowled alot of the time - a sign that the reflexes are on the wane, something also evident in his keeping in the UAE.

Haddin also only averaged 23.5 before his replacement by Wade (his keeping also poor then) - it was a reasonable decision that didn't work out.

I'm happy for Haddin to be there in Clarkes absence, because I don't want Smith captain yet (have huge wraps on him, think it's better for him to just keep concentrating on his role as a batsmen at present). His career average of 34 means shit at this point, he's been on the wane, outside a magical series against England last summer, for a long time and he simply isn't way ahead of the competition.

Fair enough mate. But Haddin deserves the test series against India.

Then re assess options after that if he doesnt perform well enough.

I hope he's fit for the 1st test.

 

[Twizzle]

ABC news are now reporting that Clarkey will play either a club game or a shield game before the first test.

 

[BunniesMan]

Mind games. He is gorn.

 

[madunit]

ABC news are now reporting that Clarkey will play either a club game or a shield game before the first test.

I'd prefer it if he played a club game

 

[The Charlatan]

What's doing with Pattinson at the moment? I've been out of the country and missed a large part of the domestic stuff and was only loosely following the Tests in UAE.

 

[TheParraboy]

ABC news are now reporting that Clarkey will play either a club game or a shield game before the first test.

Id rather he not play. He can do some drills at training to mimic game condtions (running between wickets, fielding) If they want to know what how his hamstring is doing

Slot him straight into the 1st test side if he is only 100%. Otherwise get him ready for Adelaide 12th Dec. If we kill India in Brisbane, and Clarke is still not quite 100% then don't risk him for Adelaide either. Play him at the MCG and SCG tests

I got a feeling we are gonna need him massively for the WC. Our top-middle order is unpredictable

 

[TheParraboy]

What's doing with Pattinson at the moment? I've been out of the country and missed a large part of the domestic stuff and was only loosely following the Tests in UAE.

Last I heard about a week or so back, playing soley as batsman in grade cricket

taking his time due to stress injury on his back

Unlikely to play any tests this summer, certainly not the first 2 tests in Brisbane nor Adelaide. Maybe a smoky for MCG or SCG tests if he starts bowling soonish

 

[madunit]

I'd want him to play a club game and score some runs against some lesser quality players, just to get him back in the habit of scoring runs.

 

[Red Bear]

What's doing with Pattinson at the moment? I've been out of the country and missed a large part of the domestic stuff and was only loosely following the Tests in UAE.

Aiming for 2015 Ashes.

 

[TheParraboy]

forget it, fun fact was not so funny