Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Wb1234]

18.CAIRNS/PNG
19.Bears = Nz2 or Vic2
20.Perth

Brisbane is done till they want to go past 20, or a club folds... seems unlikely, even then bronx aren't looking for more competition in their backyard, they already have their hands full with redcliffe and titans

Perth isn’t crucial

if they want filer teams for conferences sure

south west Brisbane is important imo

dolphins would’ve had close to ten years to set down roots

 

[mongoose]

Fact is storm are worth basically nothing for broadcasters

and that’s with one of the most successful nrl teams in history

Perth will be of similar value

and like Melbourne offer little to no juniors

dots in a map is a stupid strategy

any proof of this? you're just going by week to week ratings, you don't actually know what value they add

 

[Canard]

Mate in the 90s we had more Sydney teams, way more, not sure where you're getting your 2-3 Sydney clubs analogy, maybe a crappy A-league comp, but if you're going to use a somewhat similar successful model, like AFL or NRL then 9 is fine in the heartland city in this part of the world, anyways seems like there's always some excuse to justify only one team in Melbourne

What?

Aren't you saying Perth is too small for an NRL team?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

any proof of this? you're just going by week to week ratings, you don't actually know what value they add

You don't think week by week ratings are an indication of value to the broadcasters?

A Cowboys vs Storm game generated just 19k viewers in Melbourne on PTV in 2017. There were 265k viewers across the five metro areas. That means Melbourne contributed just 7% of the metro PTV audience, despite being the only metro region with a team in the match. An AwFuL game not featuring the Lions or Suns generated 13k views in Brisbane on PTV. NRL games not featuring the Storm generated just 7k views in Melbourne on PTV.

 

[Perth Red]

What makes you think there's been a huge increase in people watching NRL in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth since Kayo entered the market?

colly posted the NRL Pay TV ratings for Perth in 2017. They were a lousy 5k. Even the AwFuL ratings in Perth were terrible.

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Its logical, Kayo has added 1.1 million more viewers for sport, logical to expect some of them are watching NRL in those cities.

 

[Perth Red]

A Cowboys vs Storm game generated just 19k viewers in Melbourne on PTV in 2017. There were 265k viewers across the five metro areas. That means Melbourne contributed just 7% of the metro PTV audience, despite being the only metro region with a team in the match. An AwFuL game not featuring the Lions or Suns generated 13k views in Brisbane on PTV. NRL games not featuring the Storm generated just 7k views in Melbourne on PTV.

I wonder why?

Is it:

A) AFL is a better game to watch than NRL?
B) AFL has invested significant more money in generating interest in their game in new markets?
C) If you dont grow up a RL fan you'll never become a RL fan, unlike for AFL?

Hmmmm

 

[Perth Red]

18.CAIRNS/PNG
19.Bears = Nz2 or Vic2
20.Perth

Brisbane is done till they want to go past 20, or a club folds... seems unlikely, even then bronx aren't looking for more competition in their backyard, they already have their hands full with redcliffe and titans

If we didnt have brain dead Albo flashing his cash it would ideally be:

18. Perth
19. Christchurch (if a backer comes along)
20. Easts or Adelaide Bears

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Melbourne isn't getting a second team in our lifetime. It's just not feasible by any stretch of the imagination. A second team will cannibalise the Storm's supporter base and source players from the same pool in SEQ, weakening the Storm on the field.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I wonder why?

Is it:

A) AFL is a better game to watch than NRL?
B) AFL has invested significant more money in generating interest in their game in new markets?
C) If you dont grow up a RL fan you'll never become a RL fan, unlike for AFL?

Hmmmm

Now you're just rambling and making assumptions. The Storm have been gifted a golden run like no other team in Australia. Only the Perth Wildcats can compare to them. Stop making excuses and accept that Victorians are more narrow-minded and parochial about fumbleball.

Brisbane has a lot of expatriates from Victoria. Brisbane has more interstate migrants than any other capital city. We see this at Titans games on the Gold Coast, with Sydney teams often having as much -- or more -- supporters than the home team.

Brisbane the perfect choice for Magic Round.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

If we didnt have brain dead Albo flashing his cash it would ideally be:

18. Perth
19. Christchurch (if a backer comes along)
20. Easts or Adelaide Bears

Bears aren't relocating to Adelaide. Neither are Easts.

Perth adds f**k all value to the game. Just 5k people from Perth tuned in to an NRL game on Foxtel in 2017. In 2023 we got just 8k people from Perth watching NRL on 9Gem. It's a dud market.

 

[Perth Red]

Now you're just rambling and making assumptions. The Storm have been gifted a golden run like no other team in Australia. Only the Perth Wildcats can compare to them. Stop making excuses and accept that Victorians are more narrow-minded and parochial about fumbleball.

Brisbane has a lot of expatriates from Victoria. Brisbane has more interstate migrants than any other capital city. We see this at Titans games on the Gold Coast, with Sydney teams often having as much -- or more -- supporters than the home team.

Brisbane the perfect choice for Magic Round.

Thast a simplistic position (not that Im surprised from you), that in a city twice the size the only reason NRL cant draw more tv audiences than afl in Brisbane is that people there are more parochial to their natural sport. or theres more ex pat Vic,SAand WA people in Brisbane than there is Qlnd or NSW people living in melbourne. I presume you have evidence for either of these things?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its logical, Kayo has added 1.1 million more viewers for sport, logical to expect some of them are watching NRL in those cities.

It ain't "logical". It's fanciful and based on your hope for Perth to have a team. You'll create all sorts of bullshit to justify putting a team in Perth, then whinge when people call you out on it.

 

[Perth Red]

Bears aren't relocating to Adelaide. Neither are Easts.

Perth adds f**k all value to the game. Just 5k people from Perth tuned in to an NRL game on Foxtel in 2017. In 2023 we got just 8k people from Perth watching NRL on 9Gem. It's a dud market.

in your opinion, yet every single other professional sport has a Perth club? Go figure.

 

[Perth Red]

It ain't "logical". It's fanciful and based on your hope for Perth to have a team. You'll create all sorts of bullshit to justify putting a team in Perth, then whinge when people call you out on it.

So of KAYOS 1.1 million subscribers you dont think any of them are watching NRl on it in WA,SA or Vic?
Cuckoo cuckoo

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Thast a simplistic position (not that Im surprised from you), that in a city twice the size the only reason NRL cant draw more tv audiences than afl in Brisbane is that people there are more parochial to their natural sport. or theres more ex pat Vic,SAand WA people in Brisbane than there is Qlnd or NSW people living in melbourne. I presume you have evidence for either of these things?

Australian Bureau of Statistics

Here's an answer I got using the new Bing, the world’s first AI-powered answer engine. Click to see the full answer and try it yourself. https://sl.bing.net/d2RGcQvB0Vw

According to the web search results, the Australian city that had the most net interstate migration in the year ending March 2021 was Brisbane, with a net gain of 13,000 people⁶. This means that more people moved to Brisbane from other states than moved out of Brisbane to other states. Brisbane was followed by Perth, with a net gain of 3,500 people⁶. Sydney and Melbourne had the largest net losses of 31,600 and 26,100 people respectively⁶.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 8/12/2023
(1) Net migration to the regions highest on record. https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/net-migration-regions-highest-record.
(2) Regional internal migration estimates, provisional, March 2021. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/p...igration-estimates-provisional/latest-release.
(3) Migration, Australia - Australian Bureau of Statistics. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/migration-australia/latest-release.
(4) Provisional Regional Internal Migration Estimates (PRIME), March 2021. https://population.gov.au/data-and-...onal-internal-migration-estimates-prime-march.
(5) Where are people moving to, and from, in Australia? Find out with our .... https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...to-and-from-in-australia-2021-census-data-abs.
(6) Up 347pc: Australia’s biggest internal migration magnets revealed. https://www.realestate.com.au/news/up-347pc-australias-biggest-internal-migration-magnets-revealed/.​

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

in your opinion, yet every single other professional sport has a Perth club? Go figure.

An NBL and A-League club don't operate on a budget of $25-40m.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane has been the go to place for Australians since 1980.

Here's an answer I got using the new Bing, the world’s first AI-powered answer engine. Click to see the full answer and try it yourself. https://sl.bing.net/ibvmiZhohbg

According to the web search results, the Australian city that has attracted the most interstate emigrants since 1980 is Brisbane, with a cumulative net gain of 436,000 people from 1981 to 2020¹. This means that more people moved to Brisbane from other states than moved out of Brisbane to other states over this period. Brisbane was followed by Perth, with a cumulative net gain of 269,000 people¹. Sydney and Melbourne had the largest cumulative net losses of 1,057,000 and 316,000 people respectively¹.

Some possible additional sentences are:

- The main reasons for interstate migration in Australia are employment, lifestyle, education, family, and housing affordability².
- Interstate migration patterns have changed over time, reflecting the economic and social conditions of different regions³. For example, the mining boom in Western Australia attracted many interstate workers in the early 2010s, while the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020 reduced the mobility of people across state borders².
- Interstate migration also affects the distribution of population growth, ageing, diversity, and electoral representation in Australia³. For instance, Queensland gained two additional seats in the House of Representatives in 2019 due to its high population growth from interstate migration⁴.

Source: Conversation with Bing, 8/12/2023
(1) Migration, Australia - Australian Bureau of Statistics. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/migration-australia/latest-release.
(2) Regional internal migration estimates, provisional, March 2021. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/p...igration-estimates-provisional/latest-release.
(3) Why do people move? - Population. https://population.gov.au/sites/population.gov.au/files/2021-09/why_do_people_move_a_quick_guide.pdf.
(4) Migration, Australia - Australian Bureau of Statistics. https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/migration-australia/2017-18.​

 

[mongoose]

An NBL and A-League club don't operate on a budget of $25-40m.

and they don't get a 17 million annual grant either, not even close to that. So stop using that bullshit argument.

 

[TheEroticGamer]

We need to kick out the QLD clubs from the comp. Having their overrated viewer numbers counts for little when none of them can read or understand the associated advertising.

 

[Wb1234]

You don't think week by week ratings are an indication of value to the broadcasters?

A Cowboys vs Storm game generated just 19k viewers in Melbourne on PTV in 2017. There were 265k viewers across the five metro areas. That means Melbourne contributed just 7% of the metro PTV audience, despite being the only metro region with a team in the match. An AwFuL game not featuring the Lions or Suns generated 13k views in Brisbane on PTV. NRL games not featuring the Storm generated just 7k views in Melbourne on PTV.

Wookiee link shows how pathetic the Melbourne ratings are

and Perth won’t be close to the storm in terms of success