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Craig Young and personal reference for Finch

Maximus

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Imagine what many in here would be saying if the Sharks Chairman did this and you would be 100% justified in such ch criticism and ridicule.

This is appalling really. The bloke is entitled to provide his personal reference but if you or I did it on our employers letterhead we would be shafted for it

I've met and had a few drinks with your chairman. Good bloke and way too smart to do anything like this.

I suggested he come to the Dragons and he laughed and said "no, your management are the dumbest bunch of merkins I've ever met". Sadly he's probably right
 

possm

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I've met and had a few drinks with your chairman. Good bloke and way too smart to do anything like this.

I suggested he come to the Dragons and he laughed and said "no, your management are the dumbest bunch of merkins I've ever met". Sadly he's probably right
One might ask why:
Young has not stepped down?
Young and Doust are on the Board in the first place?

Both questions have the same answer. Deals made, deals honored until done.
 
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JamesRustle

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Yes and this mob running our
Club are trying to distract us
again.
Introducing Ben Creigh to the
Board.
Funny thing that, just at the same time Craig Young is under pressure with his deceptive personal reference
for Brett Finch.
This Board of ours are real scumbags .
Ben was his 2nd choice for promotion to the board... behind Brett... probably
 

possm

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Nothing more to do or say; Craig Young should immediately stand down or be sacked. Griffin should be shown the door and Hasler made head coach.

The beginnings of the long-awaited cleanout.
 

Qdf

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Nothing more to do or say; Craig Young should immediately stand down or be sacked. Griffin should be shown the door and Hasler made head coach.

The beginnings of the long-awaited cleanout.
Please tell me who will be the man (or woman)to run this so called clean out? Will it DOUST or will it be Young or maybe Ben Creigh? I'm not trying to be a smart arse here just want your honest opinion?
 

Unsainty79

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If the club had the balls to sack Young it would have happened by now. Standard spineless merkins. Unbelievable
Not necessarily. He essentially has to be sacked from 2 boards. It's so typical of the Dragons to be in this scenario.
 
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possm

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Please tell me who will be the man (or woman)to run this so called clean out? Will it DOUST or will it be Young or maybe Ben Creigh? I'm not trying to be a smart arse here just want your honest opinion?
I can't say who will conduct the cleanout but in my opinion, it is time for The NRL to step in and put the Club on notice. Maybe bring in an administrator to reform the board of management and change the way they are appointed.
 
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Qdf

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I can't say who will conduct the cleanout but in my opinion, it is time for The NRL to step in and put the Club on notice. Maybe bring in an administrator to reform the board of management and change the way they are appointed.
Yes, the NRL must step in.
If Young hasn't brought the game into disrepute, I don't know what is. Come on NRL
this Craig Young fiasco needs tobe delta with.
 

Old Timer

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Yes, the NRL must step in.
If Young hasn't brought the game into disrepute, I don't know what is. Come on NRL
this Craig Young fiasco needs tobe delta with.
It's not a matter for the NRL it is a matter for the BOD of our club.

As I said earlier Albert is neither the 1st nor will he be the last to use an employer's letterhead in writing a reference for someone and truth be known there would be lots of them floating around for all sorts of charges that have befallen RL players.

Is it all that different when we had people from the club sitting firmly and visibly in JDB's corner during his trials and tribulations?

I'd hate to think what references would have been written for Chook when he was caught on the wrong side of the law.

What I would like to know is how a copy of a letter written and addressed to a judge ended up in the hands of the media?
 

Qdf

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It's not a matter for the NRL it is a matter for the BOD of our club.

As I said earlier Albert is neither the 1st nor will he be the last to use an employer's letterhead in writing a reference for someone and truth be known there would be lots of them floating around for all sorts of charges that have befallen RL players.

Is it all that different when we had people from the club sitting firmly and visibly in JDB's corner during his trials and tribulations?

I'd hate to think what references would have been written for Chook when he was caught on the wrong side of the law.

What I would like to know is how a copy of a letter written and addressed to a judge ended up in the hands of the media?
If a player brings the game into disrepute the NRL steps in.Why not a club official?
The cases you mentioned are both Dragons players,(JDB, Chook) don't remember B.Finch playing for the Dragons.
Whether Albert is not the only one to write a personal reference. HE wrote it on a STGEORGE ILL letter head. Official letter it was, with no permission from the Board.
Also signing it as the Club's
Chairman.
Now if that not brig the game into disrepute I don't know what is.
Just because others may have written these types of letters for others is debatable. I don't think
they were about tobe sentenced on transmitting child porno images on the internet.
 

Old Timer

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If a player brings the game into disrepute the NRL steps in.Why not a club official?
The cases you mentioned are both Dragons players,(JDB, Chook) don't remember B.Finch playing for the Dragons.
Whether Albert is not the only one to write a personal reference. HE wrote it on a STGEORGE ILL letter head. Official letter it was, with no permission from the Board.
Also signing it as the Club's
Chairman.
Now if that not brig the game into disrepute I don't know what is.
Just because others may have written these types of letters for others is debatable. I don't think
they were about tobe sentenced on transmitting child porno images on the internet.
As I said before Albert erred in his judgement and did the wrong thing and that is not in dispute

His writing a reference for the troubled son of a friend is not unusual in itself and has nothing to do with bringing the game into disrepute as he was giving a personal account of his knowledge of someone.

The matter is solely for our BOD because Albert took it upon himself to enhance his statement by using club letterhead.

It’s 100% a question of Albert’s judgement in taking a liberty he wasn’t entitled to take nothing more.

If the facts came out about the behaviour of some of our immortals and greatest players and the lengths the club went to to keep it under the carpet it would make Albert’s stupidity look very lack lustre indeed.

For the record Finch’s charges are irrelevant in respect of Albert’s actions as are other charges being irrelevant when character references are given they should be done personally and on your own stationary.
 

saints4ever

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absof**kinglutely

The fact he is still there reeks. I hope the changeover will also be him saying goodbye for the good of the club and the game. The board just dont have the balls

its sickening
 

Old Timer

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Obviously you are quite ignorant of the situation.

If Albert had of done it on his own A4 paper would his character reference have brought the game into disrepute?

By all means enlighten me as to how he has he brought the game into disrepute by offering a character reference based on his personal knowledge of Brett Finch and his family?

Albert's only misdemeanor is to have used the clubs letterhead without the clubs sanction.

If you think that the NRL should sack Albert do you think all the FOX footy team that said Brett Finch was a good bloke have also brought the game into disrepute and should they all be sacked?

This is a matter for the BOD of our club and has nothing to do with the NRL.
 
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Maximus

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If this was Ivan Cleary or Bellamy or Bennett or Politis or any other high profile person in rugby league, would everyone be saying they brought the game into disrepute? Of course not.

It shows poor decision making and he should stand down for that reason, but any posts saying it is damaging to the game and the NRL should step in and sanction us and fire everyone are just ridiculous.
 

Qdf

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Obviously you are quite ignorant of the situation.

If Albert had of done it on his own A4 paper would his character reference have brought the game into disrepute?

By all means enlighten me as to how he has he brought the game into disrepute by offering a character reference based on his personal knowledge of Brett Finch and his family?

Albert's only misdemeanor is to have used the clubs letterhead without the clubs sanction.

If you think that the NRL should sack Albert do you think all the FOX footy team that said Brett Finch was a good bloke have also brought the game into disrepute and should they all be sacked?

This is a matter for the BOD of our club and has nothing to do with the NRL.
This is a matter for the NRL integrity unit.
That is the point he used the Stgeorge letter head & signed it as the Stgeorge chairman.
Without knowledge or permission.
 

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