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Metal thread \m/

Mong

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F*ck that..

I'm just going to stick with my naming system being, awesome, f*cking awesome or holy f*ck that's awesome..

Much simpler that way :)
 

HevyDevy

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Well yes, certainly those bands were all influenced by Venom and co. although when people refer to Norwegian black metal they are usually referring to the movement that resulted in Mayhem, darkthrone, Immortal, Burzum etc.

As for CoF, I do recall seeing an accurate description some time ago but can't remember what it was. Had the word goth in it though. Perhaps Blackened Symphonic Goth Metal works? :crazy:
 

SpaceMonkey

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Well yes, certainly those bands were all influenced by Venom and co. although when people refer to Norwegian black metal they are usually referring to the movement that resulted in Mayhem, darkthrone, Immortal, Burzum etc.

Well yeah that was the second wave pretty much (along with Emperor, Satyricon and the other usual suspects).
 

Mong

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Been trying to do some research on the genres but f**k

Death grind.. Death n roll.. Technical death metal. folk and funk metal.. sludge and Viking metal..

OMG.. that will do me
 

adamkungl

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I agree with Mong. All the metal sub-sub genres are one massive wank.

Depends. Example.. melodic death metal doesn't really sound like death or prog death or tech death, to someone who listens to a lot of it.

A borrowed musical element from Hardcore Punk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk

"groove metal" is a pretty ridiculous one though as it only really covers two well known bands (Pantera and Exhorder) and the "genre" only seemed to start getting bandied around after both had slit up.

Idunno, groove metal is that kind of halfway point between thrash, death and heavy metal. Devildriver, Chimaira, Machine Head, Lamb of God...

Been trying to do some research on the genres but f**k

Death grind.. Death n roll.. Technical death metal. folk and funk metal.. sludge and Viking metal..

OMG.. that will do me

Have you heard folk metal? There's no other way to describe it, it has f**king flutes and violins and shit :lol:
 

adamkungl

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In summary, subgenres become less wank the more you listen.

A non-metal fan might think the difference between heavy metal, thrash metal and death metal is utter wank. But presumably everyone in here knows Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Morbid Angel sound basically nothing alike aside from distorted guitars.

A metal fan who doesn't listen to much extreme stuff might not understand the difference between black, death and doom and sure as shit doesn't see the point of subgenres of death and black metal, but someone else would tell you that Darkthrone sound nothing f**king like Dark Tranquility.

Personally, I have use for sub genres of death metal (pure/melodic/tech/prog) but not shit like 'death n roll' or whatever. Maybe someone else knows a whole heap of bands that makes that term useful? :lol: Black metal I don't really subgenre (yet...) because I haven't listened to enough of it to meanigfully differentiate between sounds.

/wank
 

HevyDevy

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Yeah, I certainly see a purpose for sub-genre's and even sub-sub genres but there comes a point where it becomes a bit silly.

As for folk metal ... Finntroll. Awesome.
 
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Mong

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Depends. Example.. melodic death metal doesn't really sound like death or prog death or tech death, to someone who listens to a lot of it.



Idunno, groove metal is that kind of halfway point between thrash, death and heavy metal. Devildriver, Chimaira, Machine Head, Lamb of God...



Have you heard folk metal? There's no other way to describe it, it has f**king flutes and violins and shit :lol:

I don't get the groove reference for DD, MH or LOG for example.

Anyway, I will stick to my head in sand approach to it..

It's good or it's not and there are a few levels of "good".

Seems a shite load easier than trying to figure out what genre/sub genre/fusion they belong in.

Have seen plenty of placed on the net where folk are having full on arguments about what genre it is all the while missing the point of the music.
 

Eelementary

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In summary, subgenres become less wank the more you listen.

A non-metal fan might think the difference between heavy metal, thrash metal and death metal is utter wank. But presumably everyone in here knows Iron Maiden, Metallica, and Morbid Angel sound basically nothing alike aside from distorted guitars.

A metal fan who doesn't listen to much extreme stuff might not understand the difference between black, death and doom and sure as shit doesn't see the point of subgenres of death and black metal, but someone else would tell you that Darkthrone sound nothing f**king like Dark Tranquility.

Personally, I have use for sub genres of death metal (pure/melodic/tech/prog) but not shit like 'death n roll' or whatever. Maybe someone else knows a whole heap of bands that makes that term useful? :lol: Black metal I don't really subgenre (yet...) because I haven't listened to enough of it to meanigfully differentiate between sounds.

/wank

What kungl said. Times a hundred.
 

Horrie Is God

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I reckon this is awesome..

I love that they gave them heads so that they can bang as they play..

[youtube]Jv_BDNc3AdE[/youtube]
 

Twizzle

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I reckon this is awesome..

I love that they gave them heads so that they can bang as they play..

[youtube]Jv_BDNc3AdE[/youtube]

thats just noise

they have a similar attraction at the BDO with these robots making something that resembles music
 

Horrie Is God

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thats just noise

they have a similar attraction at the BDO with these robots making something that resembles music

Who??..Limp Bizcut??..

I like it..

I wouldn't buy a CD full of it,but i reckon it's pretty cool..

I reckon Lemmy would lol at it too..
 

beave

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Problem with genre pigeonholing is that bands will change style at some point, Metallica were thrash until the black album, f**k knows what you would call them now. Testament is similar in that Chuck changed his vox style and that in itself can give a band a completely different feel.


Groove metal IMO is Pantera.
 

sydraider

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Problem with genre pigeonholing is that bands will change style at some point, Metallica were thrash until the black album, f**k knows what you would call them now. Testament is similar in that Chuck changed his vox style and that in itself can give a band a completely different feel.


Groove metal IMO is Pantera.

Testament are still thrashing it up with the best of them, Last 2 Albums of theirs have been killer!
 

Mong

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Problem with genre pigeonholing is that bands will change style at some point, Metallica were thrash until the black album, f**k knows what you would call them now. Testament is similar in that Chuck changed his vox style and that in itself can give a band a completely different feel.

Their last album Death Magnetic i would just plain and simple call metal.
 

beave

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Testament are still thrashing it up with the best of them, Last 2 Albums of theirs have been killer!

Agreed mate, but the late '90s is the period I'm talking about where testament changed a fair bit. They are criminally under rated, same with Kreator.
 

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