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New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

Maximus

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I think PNG, Perth and NZ2 are the three obvious frontrunners now, they’re the options that NRL HQ seem to be eyeing. In what order? Good question. Outside those 3 I think Brisbane 3 is the only other one with any realistic prospect, could see it replacing PNG if it turns out the logistics of lthat prove too difficult.

Where do the Bears fit in with that? They were Vlandys preferred option a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Money is for ten years but sure maybe a new govt comes in and cancels it
Has the money be approved? Does it need to be voted on as a bill? Where does that come out of? Is it a direct payment to the NRL or to PNG or overall development funds that includes infrastructure juniors ect?? Is it monthly, yearly or lump sum? Is where it's spent going to be scrutinised by the government? far the PNG bid themselves said that there's no agreed amount..

You couldn’t dream up a scenario where we knew less about a payment of sorts.. random number made up by media.. got to hand it to them.

If I had to play devils advocate, I'd say PVL is playing this the only way one could.. that is: so long as doors are open.. why close them??
Until there's an approved fund passed through parliament.. a formal offer has been proposed.. and a deadline attached..
Only then do you need to respectfully decline. Even if they knew they weren't they would still have to let time pass to be as respectful as possible!

This is our government! They build stadiums, give grants, take grants away! Cancel stadiums! Increase taxes!!!
Do you really think The NRL are going to piss off the government?? They're being as respectful and nice as possible!
Sure Mr PM .. PNG, we'll look into it , o yes the Bears.. wonderful choice sir and the Jets ... nice well look into that too! Anything else sir?

There's no chance we're adding PNG.
NONE.
 

Wb1234

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Has the money be approved? Does it need to be voted on as a bill? Where does that come out of? Is it a direct payment to the NRL or to PNG or overall development funds that includes infrastructure juniors ect?? Is it monthly, yearly or lump sum? Is where it's spent going to be scrutinised by the government? far the PNG bid themselves said that there's no agreed amount..

You couldn’t dream up a scenario where we knew less about a payment of sorts.. random number made up by media.. got to hand it to them.

If I had to play devils advocate, I'd say PVL is playing this the only way one could.. that is: so long as doors are open.. why close them??
Until there's an approved fund passed through parliament.. a formal offer has been proposed.. and a deadline attached..
Only then do you need to respectfully decline. Even if they knew they weren't they would still have to let time pass to be as respectful as possible!

This is our government! They build stadiums, give grants, take grants away! Cancel stadiums! Increase taxes!!!
Do you really think The NRL are going to piss off the government?? They're being as respectful and nice as possible!
Sure Mr PM .. PNG, we'll look into it , o yes the Bears.. wonderful choice sir and the Jets ... nice well look into that too! Anything else sir?

There's no chance we're adding PNG.
NONE.
Why does it have to go through parliament

60 million pa in a budget of billions is a rounding error
 

MugaB

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Has the money be approved? Does it need to be voted on as a bill? Where does that come out of? Is it a direct payment to the NRL or to PNG or overall development funds that includes infrastructure juniors ect?? Is it monthly, yearly or lump sum? Is where it's spent going to be scrutinised by the government? far the PNG bid themselves said that there's no agreed amount..

You couldn’t dream up a scenario where we knew less about a payment of sorts.. random number made up by media.. got to hand it to them.

If I had to play devils advocate, I'd say PVL is playing this the only way one could.. that is: so long as doors are open.. why close them??
Until there's an approved fund passed through parliament.. a formal offer has been proposed.. and a deadline attached..
Only then do you need to respectfully decline. Even if they knew they weren't they would still have to let time pass to be as respectful as possible!

This is our government! They build stadiums, give grants, take grants away! Cancel stadiums! Increase taxes!!!
Do you really think The NRL are going to piss off the government?? They're being as respectful and nice as possible!
Sure Mr PM .. PNG, we'll look into it , o yes the Bears.. wonderful choice sir and the Jets ... nice well look into that too! Anything else sir?

There's no chance we're adding PNG.
NONE.
Hahahahaha, all that might be true, but png is coming
 

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He changes his faves every 5 minutes lol.

bears
melbourne2
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perth
png
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hes literally talked them all up over the last 12 months, why should we take what he said this week as gospel given he’s swung around like a hills hoist in a cyclone Over the last year.
 

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final say

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He changes his faves every 5 minutes lol.

bears
melbourne2
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perth
png
western brisbane


hes literally talked them all up over the last 12 months, why should we take what he said this week as gospel given he’s swung around like a hills hoist in a cyclone Over the last year.
I agree.
It's just good leadership, another news article written and the NRL are topic of conversation once more.
Free publicity by the truck load.
Also what people don't get...
Until the 18th team is announced or location there's no reason to rule places out, none.
That's why PNG's chances are well over blown, they're not going to hurt the ambition of the PM until it's absolutely necessary.
 

Vlad59

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He changes his faves every 5 minutes lol.

bears
melbourne2
nz2
perth
png
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hes literally talked them all up over the last 12 months, why should we take what he said this week as gospel given he’s swung around like a hills hoist in a cyclone Over the last year.
He’s talking them all up to entice competition. It’s not very complicated. But yet you still whinge and whine.
 

Maximus

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Has the money be approved? Does it need to be voted on as a bill? Where does that come out of? Is it a direct payment to the NRL or to PNG or overall development funds that includes infrastructure juniors ect?? Is it monthly, yearly or lump sum? Is where it's spent going to be scrutinised by the government? far the PNG bid themselves said that there's no agreed amount..

We probably won't see anything until the May budget.
 

Vlad59

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I agree.
It's just good leadership, another news article written and the NRL are topic of conversation once more.
Free publicity by the truck load.
Also what people don't get...
Until the 18th team is announced or location there's no reason to rule places out, none.
That's why PNG's chances are well over blown, they're not going to hurt the ambition of the PM until it's absolutely necessary.
Good analysis. Vlandys is talking up PNG because the Government has been also. He can say what he is saying with a straight face because there is a tonne of evidence of Government support. If the Government backtracks then it’s legitimate for the ARLC to look elsewhere (Perth) for the 18th team. It’s a no lose situation.
 

SpaceMonkey

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Good analysis. Vlandys is talking up PNG because the Government has been also. He can say what he is saying with a straight face because there is a tonne of evidence of Government support. If the Government backtracks then it’s legitimate for the ARLC to look elsewhere (Perth) for the 18th team. It’s a no lose situation.
Think about the reaction if he rules any particular bid out too. Hes immediately putting fans in that region offside. Better to keep everyone interested and hopeful at this point.
 

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