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[madunit]

That's irrelevant to the point I'm making.

Don't go moving the posts to suit you agenda.

 

[Perth Red]

Thanks, thought so.

 

[taipan]

Gee the thread was about the Forbidden Game.

To even compare a banning of a sport(rl) by a Govt with lobbying by French ru officials ,with ru not being allowed in Catholic schools in this country is laughable.Or because rl has not been pure.

FHS the game was BANNED in France,and not even allowed to call itself Rugby League. The game of ru was never banned in this country,and rl officials have never lobbied any Govt ,to have ru banned anywhere,nor have they succeeded in doing so.
Nor did rl receive assets of ru ,as the reverse happened in France.Nor did rl fans throw glass on the fields prior to a rl match in a couple of instances,as apparently happened in France..

And French ru have poached French rl players all through the amateur years,so much for the meaning of amateurism.
France would have been up there wth the likes of NZ as a rl power,without the sporting bastardry of union officials.The French Govt acknowledged that code(union) tried to kill off rl in their 2002 report "Sport under Vichy".

Rugby league affected ru in this country, only because the dullards of the RU admin,could not see reimbursing players for lost time at work due to injury received playing,was not a crime,but a social responsibility.

It's like comparing a bank robbery with a weapon to shoplifting.

And in June/Jul 2013(not ancient history) in Morrocco,we have ru officials up to their old tricks of threatening refs ,lobbying etc.Reality check.

 

[madunit]

I was not comparing the severity of actions. I've only stated that umpteen times.

 

[madunit]

Thanks, thought so.

I made a point stating League has wronged Union.

If the incident happened after a certain period of time is it deleted from ever happening?

How long do we wait until the Holocaust events are deleted from history as well.

You asked a ridiculous question and don't even realise it.

 

[taipan]

I was not comparing the severity of actions. I've only stated that umpteen times.

On that basis, why the need to bring up lesser actions.
The French situation is what it was.
And I spent my ill gotten teen years playing ru,so have a handle on what has transpired within and without the code.

 

[Perth Red]

I was not comparing the severity of actions. I've only stated that umpteen times.

I think most people are trying to understand what you are doing. By making a suggestion that RL isn't "pure" it is logical that many would assume you are in some way trying to justify the actions of RU over the last century by inferring that RL has done it as well so alls fair in love and war? Again I haven't seen anyone say RL hasn;t done some stuff that has impacted nagatively on RU, but most counter argue that the main reason on motivation was for the good of the growth of RL with little impact on RU compared to the RU whose main goals have been to destroy RL and damage it where ever possible, often with dire consequences for RL.

 

[madunit]

On that basis, why the need to bring up lesser actions.
The French situation is what it was.
And I spent my ill gotten teen years playing ru,so have a handle on what has transpired within and without the code.

Because I was raising the point that League has done wrong by Union as well.

That is all. I wasn't taking away from what happened in France, or denying it happened, or defending Union, or any of that nonsense.

I simply stated a fact. Everyone else went all batshit crazy and here we are.

 

[madunit]

I think most people are trying to understand what you are doing.

I will state it now, again, clearly. I am saying League has attacked Union's ranks as well. I know those attacks aren't on the same level as Union's attacks on League.

By making a suggestion that RL isn't "pure" it is logical that many would assume you are in some way trying to justify the actions of RU over the last century by inferring that RL has done it as well so alls fair in love and war?

That's a very immature and ignorant way to look at what I posted. I posted facts to show that League hasn't always been a victim. I'm amazed that so many people got so offended about facts.

Again I haven't seen anyone say RL hasn;t done some stuff that has impacted nagatively on RU, but most counter argue that the main reason on motivation was for the good of the growth of RL with little impact on RU compared to the RU whose main goals have been to destroy RL and damage it where ever possible, often with dire consequences for RL.

Again, I wasn't comparing the severity of incidents. Just stating facts of League attacking Union's ranks.

Union is no longer the most popular Rugby game in Australia and hasn't been for a very long time, so it could very well be argued that League has had a more significant impact on Union's ranks than people believe.

if people can admit and agree that league has attacked Union's ranks, then why, when I point out these facts that you suggest they know, did they call me an apologist and criticise my passion for the game?

 

[magpie4ever]

Can you give us any examples in the last hundred years?

Yes, the takeover of RL within Catholic Diocese Schools.

 

[magpie4ever]

The people arguing with MU would have made great servants in Nazi Germany - because Germany had been wronged in its past history.

For God sake, no one is saying Union hasn't wronged League; and still does in certain countries; but the facts are: League is not pure.

 

[TheDalek079]

So what are we supposed to be discussing?

 

[betcats]

How to destroy RU and attain world domination for Rugby League.

 

[Perth Red]

How to destroy RU and attain world domination for Rugby League.

Now were talking!

 

[TheDalek079]

How to destroy RU and attain world domination for Rugby League.

Well that's easy. All we need is to install a Nazi-style government, get them to invade rugby countries, then ask them nicely (maybe offer them cupcakes?) to ban rugby union and give RL their properties. Shouldn't be too hard

 

[Perth Red]

The people arguing with MU would have made great servants in Nazi Germany - because Germany had been wronged in its past history.

For God sake, no one is saying Union hasn't wronged League; and still does in certain countries; but the facts are: League is not pure.

Again no one is disputing that, but this thread is about the atrocities RU has and continues to carry out towards RL. You can hardly blame RL fans for questioning the motives of someone who joins in a thread about that with "but RL has done bad things as well". Not that I sam saying Madunit had anything other than "pure" intentions in doing so

 

[magpie4ever]

So what are we supposed to be discussing?

That certain posters are trying to rewrite history to suit their own agenda by ignoring certain facts.

 

[Perth Red]

Doesn't the victor get to rewrite history?

 

[magpie4ever]

How to destroy RU and attain world domination for Rugby League.

This could lead to WWIII.:lol:

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

This thread hasn't lived up to my expectations, usually this type of thread goes right off, guess we're all slipping in our old age.