Sheens crap? Then why is he coaching the Aussies? Can't be that bad? 4 premierships with 2 clubs. Coached more games than anyone else. Your a hard marker mate. Did you also say that Bennett was crap before he signed.
Menninga, Ricky Stuart, Daley etc all coach rep or NRL sides. Do you think they may have learned a thing or 2 from their ex-coach in Sheens?
Probably how to have a barely higher than 50% win percentage as a club coach.
If you honestly think Price is the better option and don't rate Sheens then I don't understand your logic. What has Price done to impress you that much to see him as a better coach? Are you watching Saints U20's games from 2008? Is that more impressive than 4 GF's?
Congrats to Sheens for winning premierships with Belcher, Meninga, Daley, Stuart, Lazarus, Walters and Clyde. That doesn't make him a good coach, but even if it did, he won them 20 years ago. It is a different game now.
From memory the Tigers won 12 of their last 13 games to win the GF? No fluke there mate. If that does not impress you than not sure what will.
It was actually 12 from 14, but no winning 6 from your first 14 does not impress me. Oh and it must have been a fluke because they went 7-17 in 2003, 10-14 in 2004, 10-14 in 2006 (winning just 3 of their last 10, when they were only 2 wins out of the top 8), 11-13 in 2007 (1 win from their last 5 when they missed the top 8 on for and against), and 11-13 in 2008 (4 from the last 10 when they were 2 wins out of the top 8).
Another thing that doesn't impress me is that in his 700 matches, he only has a 51.4% winning record. Of the 4 clubs he has coached, Canberra is the only one where he has won more games than he has lost.
As for recruitment, he has done a better job than Price? Price couldn't even get Molzen? Sheens told him to look elsewhere yet he still preferred to stay there rather than go to Saints.
Wow keeping Moltzen is an amazing recruitment decision :roll:
If we are going to look at what they have done, obviously comparing the same time period is important. Both Price and Sheens were involved in the recruitment for their respective clubs for the 2012 and 2013 seasons.
Price: Ah Mau, Latimore, Matthews, Miller, Stanley, Vea, Vidot, Beale, Frizell, Harrison, Henderson.
Sheens: Bell, Blair (on 500k), Cashmere, Humble, Iosefa, Reddy, Anasta, Gavet, Pettybourne, Thompson.
I'll take Vidot, Beale and Frizell over their signings any day of the week.
So what you are saying is Price is a great coach but the players we have are crap hence why they did not perform last season? I tend to think we had and currently have a great roster with huge potential but it is not being coached properly.
So I guess them finishing with the same amount of wins as us last year is completely based on injuries, and nothing to do with poor coaching.