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2016 NFL draft thread

zombie jesus

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Kiper mock...

1. Tennessee Titans
*Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio St.
Getting the best defensive lineman in any draft really transcends need. Every team wants great D-lineman, and Bosa has the upside of a star. He's a dominant pass-rusher who piled up 51.0 tackles for loss over three seasons despite running into a steady supply of double-teams, and he's also outstanding against the run. You can move him around on the line at will. The son of a former first-round pick, he comes in ready to contribute.

2.) Cleveland Browns
*Jared Goff, QB, Cal
It goes without saying the Browns need to take a hard look at quarterbacks, and Hue Jackson should have the chance to start fresh with someone other than Johnny Manziel. Goff has tremendous talent and upside. He's shown off an NFL arm since he arrived at Cal, and has a great mind for the game. He's also shown how resilient he can be, growing with and leading that team at Cal, which would be a great trait in Cleveland.

3.) San Diego Chargers
*Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
Ken Whisenhunt is back at offensive coordinator for the Chargers, and the immediate need for this team is going to be figuring out a way to keep Phillip Rivers upright. Injuries have decimated the Chargers' offensive line, and adding Tunsil means they get an immediate starter. This kid is a flat-out gifted left tackle prospect, the kind of player who could go No. 1 overall to Tennessee. Get him here and you're pleased.

4.) Dallas Cowboys
DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
It's rare to find a team picking No. 4 overall that can genuinely say "We're in win-now mode." But the Cowboys get a healthy Tony Romo back and that's a fair statement. If Greg Hardy isn't back, Buckner is a great fit. You get a 6-foot-7, 290-pound defensive end who can put a tackle on skates right into his own quarterback. The No. 1 thing you love about Buckner: major motor. He plays hard. He could have been taken relatively early last year, but came back and put an exclamation point on it.

5.) Jacksonville Jaguars
*Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida St.
The best player available here, Ramsey is a great corner or a great safety, a fit in any secondary given his skill set and incredible athleticism. Those athlete credentials? Well, consider that he's long-jumping at roughly an Olympic level in, essentially, a second sport that he really can't commit to full time. A worthy top-five talent in the secondary.

6.) Baltimore Ravens
*Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
In another year Stanley would be worthy to be the first offensive tackle taken, but Tunsil gets the nod in this class. Stanley was a gifted but inconsistent player last year, and he decided to go back, which is going to work out well for him. This year, the talent is still obvious, but he was better technically and it showed. Baltimore can't pass on a potential left tackle with Stanley's upside here given the state of the O-line, not to mention with Joe Flacco coming back from an injury.

7.) San Francisco 49ers
*Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
This is a spot where you can see quarterback coming into play -- or a number of positions given what happened to this roster over the last 12 months -- but if the 49ers decide to build around a QB currently on the roster with the hopes of being more competitive in 2016 (something starting a rookie QB won't help) then Treadwell could really help the offense. He has a ton of experience as a true No. 1 and against top defenses, and brings size, hands, physicality and potential for early returns.

8.) Miami Dolphins
*Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
Lawson led college football in tackles for loss with 25.5, and Miami should add another edge rusher because Olivier Vernon is about to become extremely expensive if he can even be kept around as an unrestricted free agent. Lawson is just extremely consistent in his ability to beat tackles and makes plays.

9.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
*Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
This is just a truly gifted cover man, with the ability to press or play off and really just mirror a pass-catcher all over the place. He's been doing it since he arrived in Gainesville. The Bucs do have a need at cornerback, but there isn't a team in the NFL who wouldn't want this kind of talent on the roster.

10.) New York Giants
*Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
I'll hear for the 100th time that the Giants don't draft linebackers in the first round. I'll point out that this is a good year to consider it, not just because they've had far too many draft misses in recent years, but because Jack isn't your classic downhill run-stuffer -- the guy can flat-out cover, and he epitomizes what teams need at least one of in 2016. He's a special talent and should be on their board.

11.) Chicago Bears
Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
The Bears have a tradition of great linebackers in the middle, from Dick Butkus to Mike Singletary to Brian Urlacher -- who is coming for my hair. Ragland can be the next one, and not only can he be an immediate starter in the middle, he can do so with some system familiarity coming out of Nick Saban's 304 defense.

12.) New Orleans Saints
*A'Shawn Robinson, DL, Alabama
The Saints really need to add another 3-4 defensive end and Robinson fits the bill. In fact, the 6-foot-3, 313-pounder is an immediate starter who combines great awareness and strength to make plays and hold the point in the run game, as well as the ability to push the pocket. There isn't a place where the Saints can go wrong adding talent on defense.
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13.) Philadelphia Eagles
*Robert Nkemdiche, DL, Ole Miss
Whether Nkemdiche is a great fit in Philly depends a little bit on what kind of system the new coaching staff will want to run, but with Cedric Thornton an unrestricted free agent, they'd be wise to add another talented piece to the D-line puzzle to take some pressure off Fletcher Cox, who has turned into an absolute star. Nkemdiche has that potential -- he's a top-5 talent, really -- but will need to maintain his focus off the field.

14. ) Oakland Raiders
*Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan St.
The Raiders have their quarterback of the future, but they could also lose a pair of tackles in free agency, and even then they'd be wise to get some immediate insurance out of the draft. Conklin has been a steady force on the MSU line for three years and is great at limiting pressure and also getting after it in the run game.

15.) Los Angeles Rams
*Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
The Rams are arguably at square one at the QB position, which is a shame given the talent elsewhere on the roster. Do I think Lynch is a Week 1 starter? Absolutely not. Do I think he has significant upside and would be a potential starter in Year 2 with a roster still on the rise? Sure. St. Louis will have their eyes open in free agency and the trade market for immediate help, but Lynch could be the future.

16.) Detroit Lions
Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama
Detroit's defense began to round into form during the second half of the season, but they were a mess early on as they adjusted to life without Ndamukong Suh, Reed is a player who makes you better against the run right away. He plays with leverage, can wreck running lanes along the interior of the D-line, and frees up others to make plays.

17.) Atlanta Falcons
*Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
Shaq Lawson led the nation in tackles for loss, but Dodd was right there with him, No. 2 in the nation, and a constant presence in the backfield. The Falcons added pass-rush help with Vic Beasley last year, but is Beasley an every-down player? At 275 points, Dodd has the frame to hold up against the run and should help a D-line that lacks depth.

18.) Indianapolis Colts
Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio St.
Suffice to say the Colts should come out of this draft with at least one offensive lineman capable of stepping in early. Decker has a ton of experience -- he could have entered the draft last year and landed late in Round 1 -- and could be your Week 1 starter at left tackle in Indy. Conklin is another option if Decker went off the board first.

19.) Buffalo Bills
*Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
Will there be a tandem under more pressure to see improvement out a defense than the Ryan brothers in Buffalo? It's probably not close. Allen is a get at this slot ; he's a versatile D-lineman with the frame to win with quickness on occasion but also push the pocket from the interior. The Bills are going to need to re-tool on the D-line even beyond the draft, and Allen would be a solid addition.

20.) New York Jets
*Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
By now, everyone knows that Smith suffered a knee injury in the Fiesta Bowl, and there's at least the possibility he won't play football in 2016. That said, I'm not exaggerating on the kid's behalf when I say he was arguably the best player in this entire draft. This front office will assess the risk, but they also have showed they like to take the best player available, and Smith is an absolute monster if he's back -- a Pro Bowl-caliber talent even if he loses half a step. It's a fluid situation, but it's mock 1.0 and I want to reflect his talent level.

21.) Washington Redskins
**Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
Alexander has legit man-to-man coverage ability, but he needs technical work and is going to show some rough edges during his rookie year. But all cornerbacks do, and Alexander has a ton of upside. He's just a hair over 5-foot-10, so he's not a jump-ball winner, but he's powerful, and will make plays in coverage and attacking the line of scrimmage.

22.) Houston Texans
Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota St.
If you saw Wentz throwing it around in the SEC or Pac-12, you'd think he looked like a big-time QB prospect. At 6-foot-6 and nearly 235 pounds, he has a big arm, serious mobility and shows a willingness to be patient, move in the pocket, and keep his eyes down the field as things move around him. This is a guy who could be in the top-10 mix after the Senior Bowl and combine. Houston might end up thrilled if he's around this late.

23.) Minnesota Vikings
Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
The Vikings are moving indoors and Teddy Bridgewater has a chance to really take off. Do the Vikings want to pay Mike Wallace another $11.5 million to be a part of it? They have Stefon Diggs, but Doctson gives them another weapon, a guy who can stretch the field, win after the catch, and a reliable set of hands.

24.) Cincinnati Bengals
*Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
A.J. Green is locked up for a while, but both Mohamed Sanu and Marvin Jones are free agents, so the Bengals could be looking to add another weapon in the passing game to go with Green and Tyler Eifert. Fuller is a dynamo on the deep ball, and can make a cornerback look slow when the ball is in the air. He can be a weapon after the catch as well. The knock: needs more consistency with the hands. But he can help this team.

25.) Pittsburgh Steelers
*Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
The Steelers have been a mess on the back end for much of the season, and could add multiple cornerbacks in the draft. (Remember they will get back Senquez Golson, however.) Fuller comes from a line of NFL players (his brother is a cornerback for the Bears) and has tremendous talent. He missed much of 2015 after trying to play through a cartilage injury in his knee, but should be in great shape for the draft process.
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26.) Seattle Seahawks
*Eli Apple, CB, Ohio St.
The next two guys to come off the board would also be worth considering, because age is now a concern on the interior of that defensive line, but a long, physical cornerback who is a fearless tackler is a great fit for Pete Carroll. Yes, the secondary is a strength in Seattle, but it's impossible to have too many corners who can play, and one injury changes the depth equation in a heartbeat.

27.) Green Bay Packers
*Austin Johnson, DT, Penn St.
Other guys got more of the attention on the defensive line for the Nittany Lions, but Johnson is the top prospect. Green Bay heads into an offseason where B.J. Raji will become an unrestricted free agent and turns 30 this summer. Some youthful talent on the interior of the line would be a good thing, and Johnson fits the bill.

28.) Kansas City Chiefs
*Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
Clark is a powerful defensive tackle who can hold the point against a double team and keep linebackers roaming free, but will also flash some explosiveness and make plays in the backfield on his own -- and he can just out-muscle blockers one on one. The Chiefs could use more help for Dontari Poe, who happens to be entering the last year of his current deal in 2016.

29.) Denver Broncos
*Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio St.
There's a good chance the Broncos will evolve into a team that truly wants to win with the run game in 2016, and while they do have some options on the roster, Elliott isn't just a great fit, he's also the best player on the board at this point. He has vision, runs behind his pads, can turn a small crease into a big gain, catches the ball with ease, and is one of the best blocking tailbacks I've ever seen.

30.) Arizona Cardinals
*Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
The Cardinals could use another pass-rusher, and Floyd has the explosiveness to be a special one. He has a lean frame, but he can get tackles off balance and is the kind of edge defender that can get quarterbacks to speed up their internal clock. I'd like to see him play a little more physical, but on a good team that is trying to protect leads, Floyd can help.

31.) Carolina Panthers
*Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma St.
For a physical freak who has improved in each year at Oklahoma State, this slot may look WAY too low in a couple of months. Ogbah is an awesome size/quickness combination and can also play a power game and push blockers backward. He's also shown he can play in space a little bit. He's be a great get this far down the board.
 

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With Kap likely to stay now it would be flat out dumb for us to take a QB with so many other needs.

I like the idea of getting Treadwell, especially if Boldin is still there to mentor him, just not convinced he's a top 10 player.

I really wouldn't mind us trading down and if Treadwell isn't still there I would have no problem grabbing Doctson if we insist on taking a WR. Different type of player but has the potential to be just as good in the long run IMO.

Of course it could all change once free agency hits.
 

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My latest & last mock draft for a while

Round 1

1. Tennessee (3-13) - Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
2. Cleveland (3-13) - Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
3. San Diego (4-12) - Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
4. Dallas (4-12) - Jared Goff, QB, California
5. Jacksonville (5-11) - Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
6. Baltimore (5-11) - Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
7. San Francisco (5-11) - Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
8. Miami (5-11) - Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
9. Tampa Bay (6-10) - Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
10. New York Giants (6-10) - Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
11. Chicago (6-10) - Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
12. New Orleans (7-9) - Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
13. Philadelphia (7-9) - DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
14. Oakland (7-9) - Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
15. St. Louis (7-9) - Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
16. Detroit (7-9) - Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
17. Atlanta (8-8) - Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
18. Indianapolis (8-8) - Ezekiel Elliot, RB, Ohio State
19. Buffalo (8-8) - Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Ole Miss
20. New York Jets (10-6) - Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
21. Washington (9-7) - Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
22. Houston (9-7) - Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
23. Minnesota (11-5) - Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
24. Cincinnati (12-4) - Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama
25. Pittsburgh (10-6) - Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
26. Seattle (10-6) - Jerald Hawkins, OT, LSU
27. Green Bay (10-6) - Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
28. Kansas City (11-5) - A'Shawn Robinson, DT/DE, Alabama
29. New England (12-4) - (Pick Forfeited for Deflategate)
30. Arizona (13-3) - Jonathan Allen, DE, Alabama
31. Denver (12-4) - Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
32. Carolina (15-1) - Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana

Round 2

1. Cleveland (3-13) - Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
2. Tennessee (3-13) - Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
3. Dallas (4-12) - Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State
4. San Diego (4-12) - Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
5. Baltimore (5-11) - Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky
6. San Francisco (5-11) - Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
7. Miami (5-11) - Su'a Cravens, OLB, USC
8. Jacksonville (5-11) - Sheldon Day, DT/DE, Notre Dame
9. New York Giants (6-10) - Jonathan Bullard, DT/DE, Florida
10. Chicago (6-10) - O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
11. Tampa Bay (6-10) - Vonn Bell, S, Ohio State
12. St. Louis (from Philadelphia) (7-9) - Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska
13. Oakland (7-9) - Shon Coleman, OT, Auburn
14. St. Louis (7-9) - Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
15. Detroit (7-9) - Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
16. New Orleans (7-9) - Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
17. Indianapolis (8-8) - Denver Kirkland, G/T, Arkansas
18. Buffalo (8-8) - Germain Ifedi, OT, Texas A&M
19. Atlanta (8-8) - Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh
20. New York Jets (10-6) - Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
21. Houston (9-7) - Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
22. Washington (9-7) - Jeremy Cash, S, Duke
23. Minnesota (11-5) - Scooby Wright, LB, Arizona
24. Cincinnati (12-4) - Will Fuller, WR, Notre Dame
25. Seattle (10-6) - Adolphus Washington, DT, Ohio State
26. Green Bay (10-6) - Joshua Perry, LB, Ohio State
27. Pittsburgh (10-6) - William Jackson, CB, Houston
28. Kansas City (11-5) - Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State
29. New England (12-4) - Leonte Caroo, WR, Rutgers
30. Arizona (13-3) - Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
31. Denver (12-4) - Carl Nassib, DE, Penn State
32. Carolina (15-1) - Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma

Round 3

1. Tennessee (3-13) - Yannick Ngakoue, OLB, Maryland
2. Cleveland (3-13) - Bronson Kaufusi, DE, BYU
3. San Diego (4-12) - Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
4. Dallas (4-12) - Devontae Booker, RB, Utah
5. San Francisco (5-11) - Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech
6. Miami (5-11) - Sebastian Tretola, G, Arkansas
7. Jacksonville (5-11) - Jayron Kearse, S, Clemson
8. Baltimore (5-11) - Spencer Drango, OT, Baylor
9. Chicago (6-10) - Le'Raven Clark, OT, Texas Tech
10. Tampa Bay (6-10) - Zack Sanchez, CB, Oklahoma
11. New York Giants (6-10) - Alex Collins, RB, Arkansas
12. Oakland (7-9) - Darian Thompson, S, Boise State
13. St. Louis (7-9) - Keanu Neal, S, Florida
14. Philadelphia (from Detroit) (7-9) - Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin
15. New Orleans (7-9) - James Bradberry, CB, Samford
16. Philadelphia (7-9) - Vadal Alexander, G/OT, LSU
17. Buffalo (8-8) - Pharoh Cooper, WR, South Carolina
18. Atlanta (8-8) - Chris Jones, DT/DE, Mississippi State
19. Indianapolis (8-8) - Hassan Ridgeway, DT, Texas
20. New York Jets (10-6) - Kentrell Brothers, LB, Missouri
21. Washington (9-7) - Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State
22. Houston (9-7) - Max Tuerk, C, USC
23. Minnesota (11-5) - Joshua Garnett, G, Stanford
24. Cincinnati (12-4) - Tyvis Powell, S, Ohio State
25. Green Bay (10-6) - Paul Perkins, RB, UCLA
26. Pittsburgh (10-6) - Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
27. Seattle (10-6) - Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State
28. Kansas City (11-5) - Tyler Matakevich, LB, Temple
29. New England (12-4) - C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame
30. Arizona (13-3) - Tyler Johnstone, OT, Oregon
31. Denver (12-4) - Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech
32. Carolina (15-1) - Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
 
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Curious, who do you see as the Browns QB if they're not taking a QB at 2?

Don't think the 49ers take a CB in the 2nd round. They've already got enough young guys in the secondary (that's close to all they have) who are slowly developing. Either we take the best available CB first round as an immediate upgrade or we take a shot with someone in later rounds.

Latest reports have O.J Howard returning and not entering the drafts
 

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I read they want a vet rather than another rookie qb so that's what I went with for now, obviously depends on who is available in FA and if anyone wants to sign there.

Haven't heard that about Howard but he would be crazy to not declare his stock will likely never be much higher than it is right now & he is consistently under-utilised at bama, that likely wouldn't change next year either
 

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Don't think the Steelers will take a QB at all. Jones will be back for his final year, bring Gradkowski back on the minimum and a couple UDFA camp arms.
 

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I read they want a vet rather than another rookie qb so that's what I went with for now, obviously depends on who is available in FA and if anyone wants to sign there.

Haven't heard that about Howard but he would be crazy to not declare his stock will likely never be much higher than it is right now & he is consistently under-utilised at bama, that likely wouldn't change next year either

Hadn't heard the Browns say that. Interesting. Looking at who's available they'll have slim pickings to choose from. Maybe a new home for Bradford?

Jonathan Allen as well if this report is true...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...plans-to-stay-at-bama-will-oj-howard-join-him
 

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We(The Raiders) need to address the secondary first and foremost...

But how we do it really depends on free agency... I'd say we will resign at least one of our tackles.... Probably Donald Penn.... But will have to see how it plays out.

We will once again have the most cap space in the league... But whether the blue chip free agents want to come to the Raiders is another thing... Hopefully they see a promising young team on the verge of contention and jump on board.
 

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I read they want a vet rather than another rookie qb so that's what I went with for now, obviously depends on who is available in FA and if anyone wants to sign there.

Haven't heard that about Howard but he would be crazy to not declare his stock will likely never be much higher than it is right now & he is consistently under-utilised at bama, that likely wouldn't change next year either

I'd put a large some of money on them selecting Goff at 2.
Plus Tenn might take Bosa.

I would assume they go Goff and then a WR or Ezekiel (if he isn't taken) with their other first round pick.
 

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Hue Jackson has come out and said that if there's a QB who fits their system they have to go get him in the draft.

So you could almost lock in a QB for the Browns on draft day unless the QB's in question really fail to impress.
 

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I really REALLY hope the Packers don't go DT... Yeah ours aren't great, but we are probably losing our second best edge rusher (Peppers) and we desperately need to get our best one (Matthews) back there. ILB, and TE surely have to be the focus. It isn't Packer style, but I would love them to move up for Jack - we need another playmaker for the defence to go to the next level. A nose tackle, no matter how good, isn't that.
 

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I'd put a large some of money on them selecting Goff at 2.
Plus Tenn might take Bosa.

I would assume they go Goff and then a WR or Ezekiel (if he isn't taken) with their other first round pick.

If say that marvin jones will get offered heaps by hue. Given the Browns also have josh Gordon to come back. For a developing qb those two would be good enough. Though I would prefer the bengals keep jones and sanu can leave
 

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And I HATE that Seattle is drafting ahead of us. Very similar drafting philosophies, but they do it better now.
 

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That's craziness imo..... You pick the best player on your board...

If there's no value at the top of the first at the QB position you either draft the best player available or trade down to a spot where there is value for a QB.

I haven't seen much of this years QB class... But no one so far has screamed top 5 pick...

Reaching for a QB is what gets you in trouble.... Sometimes it's better to look later in the draft for a kid who can sit behind a veteran and learn his craft.

Another thing is it looks likely they are going to lose Joe Thomas.... I don't know how keen I'd be throwing a rookie out there behind a new LT... Would be better to bring in a vet.
 

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That's craziness imo..... You pick the best player on your board...

If there's no value at the top of the first at the QB position you either draft the best player available or trade down to a spot where there is value for a QB.

I haven't seen much of this years QB class... But no one so far has screamed top 5 pick...

Reaching for a QB is what gets you in trouble.... Sometimes it's better to look later in the draft for a kid who can sit behind a veteran and learn his craft.

Another thing is it looks likely they are going to lose Joe Thomas.... I don't know how keen I'd be throwing a rookie out there behind a new LT... Would be better to bring in a vet.

TBH I'm not convinced there's a QB in the draft who is top 10 talent let alone top 5. A lot of value QB's in later rounds who have the potential to be just as good if not better than those projected to be taken higher.

None of them are ready to step straight into the NFL either. Will be rough for whoever lands in Cleveland.
 

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TBH I'm not convinced there's a QB in the draft who is top 10 talent let alone top 5. A lot of value QB's in later rounds who have the potential to be just as good if not better than those projected to be taken higher.

None of them are ready to step straight into the NFL either. Will be rough for whoever lands in Cleveland.
If I'm Cleveland.... I make a play for Bradford in free agency.

And then draft a kid like that cook kid from michigan state or cardelle jones from ohio if they fall in to the 2nd or 3rd round.

Then sit them....
 

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I think it's the smarter way to go. There are some quality CB's, and linemen (more D than O, but some strong O) in this draft, genuine top talent who are ready for the NFL. Turning them down for a project QB who is going to struggle initially. It's not something I'd be comfortable with.

Cook, Wentz, Goff, Lynch, Hackenberg could all potentially be as good as each other in a couple of seasons depending on coaching and system. There's even guys a little further back who could be Wilson like smokies in the right situation.

Wentz now seems to have overtaken Lynch as the 2nd favourite QB of a lot of people, even having some talking about him as a possible top 10 pick.

The QB prospects this year have a lot to gain and lose leading up to the draft. Should be interesting.
 

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OJ Howard confirms he is returning to Alabama, mistake imo

Also Connor Cook declined a senior bowl invite not a smart decision at all, disappointing.
 

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That's craziness imo..... You pick the best player on your board...

If there's no value at the top of the first at the QB position you either draft the best player available or trade down to a spot where there is value for a QB.

I haven't seen much of this years QB class... But no one so far has screamed top 5 pick...

Reaching for a QB is what gets you in trouble.... Sometimes it's better to look later in the draft for a kid who can sit behind a veteran and learn his craft.

Another thing is it looks likely they are going to lose Joe Thomas.... I don't know how keen I'd be throwing a rookie out there behind a new LT... Would be better to bring in a vet.

I agree but the consensus around there is top 10 QB and most mocks have Goff there too.
I dunno who you put in there at free agent, maybe Foles who'd be cheap but I think they want Goff.
If Kaep was leaving San Fran he's an option but I don't see that happening now.

I seen a mock this morning with Cowboys taken Wentz at 4 totally ridiculous, Goff is at least an immediate starter... I actually don't see any of the others as first round quality imo.
 

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Saw that mock too and thought WTF?

Although I would be happy for the 9ers to take Myles Jack.

Interesting to see the Titans playing the "we'll trade down" card. I don't see it happening tbh.
 
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