ADELAIDE TEST: Australia v India Dec 9-13 2014

[madunit]

I reckon we can add another 100 to the total, which might be enough to give us a first innings lead, if our bowlers rip in.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

I would to remind all of you who are banging on about Matthew Wade and his exceptional batting talent, that after 47 ODIs where he has predominantly batted in the top six he has an average of TWENTY-TWO.

Oh yes, pick this man for his batting skill.

This is a Test cricket thread,what does his ODI average have to do with anything? First class cricket average(of which i mentioned) is relevant to Test cricket,ODI form is irrelevant.

 

[The Charlatan]

Siddle has struggled with the bat for a while though and you don't want to be relying on blokes like Johnson and Harris with the bat.

Ah well, just have to wait and see. I think our bowlers will be pumped up so 400 could be plenty.

Johnson tends to bat better when the innings counts on him. Sits on cruise control when the innings is already set and nearly almost throws his wicket away.

 

[TheParraboy]

Warner is a rare talent. If you told me he was going to become a regular Test player when burst out on the T20 scene those years ago, I'd have laughed you out of the room.

His transformation into a mainstay of the Test team has been great to watch, not to mention his climbing average.

If Maxwell can just learn from Warner and improve his batting. ie Get rid of the idiotic shots and play the bad or loose balls accordingly, He'd lock a spot at no 5 or 6 (even no4) for the next 10 years. He does have the talent and potent to be anything, but he is just screwing it big time

 

[Twatface Magee]

Derp,you do realise i have been saying that Matt Wade is the best of the keeper batsmen despite the fact that Peter Neville has a better first class a batting average right? anyone who watches Wade play can see that he is a more talented dynamic stroke player and a good example of stats not always telling the whole story.

You still clearlyhave never watched a game of Sheffield shield. I'm sure you have never seen Nevill bat or keep.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Your point is not a bad one, but at the end of the day do you have many options?

As per the lists above, it's not a vintage era for Australian batsmen at present - Smith and Warner have recently emerged as very good, Haddin and possibly Clarke past their best (and Clarke a champ at home, ordinary away)...

The players that have occupied the other spots - Doolan, Khawaja, Cowan, Rogers, Hughes, Quiney, Marsh(s), Bailey etc etc just are not terribly good players...

M Marsh has at least looked solid in a few tests, and has promise...

Who would you suggest?

I wish i had the answers,the only thing that i do know is that picking a bowling all-rounder to bat at number 6 when you have the very limited Chris Rogers,Overrated Shane Watson,Injured Clarke and Haddin on his last legs in the same batting lineup than its not a good idea.

 

[Twatface Magee]

This is a Test cricket thread,what does his ODI average have to do with anything? First class cricket average(of which i mentioned) is relevant to Test cricket,ODI form is irrelevant.

No, ODI form is not "irrelevant".
A batsman has the same ability whether it's a Test or an ODI.
Of course when picking a Test team you would look more at their test form than their ODI form but to call ODIs irrelevant is crazy talk.

 

[umina panther]

If Maxwell can just learn from Warner and improve his batting. ie Get rid of the idiotic shots and play the bad or loose balls accordingly, He'd lock a spot at no 5 or 6 (even no4) for the next 10 years. He does have the talent and potent to be anything, but he is just screwing it big time

Hahahahahaha that will do me

 

[WaznTheGreat]

You still clearlyhave never watched a game of Sheffield shield. I'm sure you have never seen Nevill bat or keep.

You have clearly never watched Matt Wade bat if you think Peter Neville is a better batsmen.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

No, ODI form is not "irrelevant".
A batsman has the same ability whether it's a Test or an ODI.
Of course when picking a Test team you would look more at their test form than their ODI form but to call ODIs irrelevant is crazy talk.

Yeah that's why Michael Bevan is one of the greatest ODI players ever and yet one of the most ordinary Test players ever at the same time,you have no idea.

 

[JJ]

If Maxwell can just learn from Warner and improve his batting. ie Get rid of the idiotic shots and play the bad or loose balls accordingly, He'd lock a spot at no 5 or 6 (even no4) for the next 10 years. He does have the talent and potent to be anything, but he is just screwing it big time

Well, he is the Big Show...

 

[The Charlatan]

You have clearly never watched Matt Wade bat if you think Peter Neville is a better batsmen.

Neville is significantly better keeper though, and he can bat when he wants to (FC average of 41.)

Agree with Madunit, pick the 6 best batsmen, the best keeper, and the 4 best bowlers.

f**k this all rounder fetish we have. We will never find our own Kallis.

 

[TheParraboy]

Neville is significantly better keeper though, and he can bat when he wants to (FC average of 41.)

Agree with Madunit, pick the 6 best batsmen, the best keeper, and the 4 best bowlers.

f**k this all rounder fetish we have. We will never find our own Kallis.

impossible

 

[JJ]

Neville is significantly better keeper though, and he can bat when he wants to.

Agree with Madunit, pick the 6 best batsmen, the best keeper, and the 4 best bowlers.

f**k this all rounder fetish we have. We will never find our own Kallis.

Kallis very much started as a batsman anyway, but Aust has been hunting for a great all-rounder since Miller - great ones just don't come around often...

I am a fan, but Kallis was remarkable - most of the very good allrounders in recent times (Flintoff, Cairns, Oram perhaps) have been so injury prone it's not funny... and while Kallis wasn't in Flintoff and Cairns' class as a bowler, he was good as a 4th or 5th option, and an undoubtedly great batsman...

Watson really has never delivered in tests, and to be honest I think his talent has been hugely overrated.

Johnson is the one, imo, he could develop into a Davidson/Lindwall type at #7 or 8

 

[umina panther]

We are in the middle of a test match and you guys are talking about plodders Smarsh, Wade and No Show

 

[Twatface Magee]

Neville is significantly better keeper though, and he can bat when he wants to (FC average of 41.)

Agree with Madunit, pick the 6 best batsmen, the best keeper, and the 4 best bowlers.

f**k this all rounder fetish we have. We will never find our own Kallis.

This.
Overall Nevill is the far better player of the 2.

 

[ek999]

Got to talk about something for the next 35 minutes

 

[TheParraboy]

Bumble - hahahaha

 

[Twatface Magee]

Hahahaha Bumble

 

[TheParraboy]

We are in the middle of a test match and you guys are talking about plodders Smarsh, Wade and No Show

Balances out with Kallis talk