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ADELAIDE TEST: Australia v India Dec 9-13 2014

chigurh

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Wades keeping looked good in the ODI's. I can't remember too many if any blemishes?

He's done enough to be next in line, and judging by the rate of knots Hads is deteriorating at, that won't be too long off.

But Neville, Dunk, Paine from grade cricket > Haddin at present
 

WaznTheGreat

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Your entire argument is blatantly stupid.

If we have a keeper who takes all his opportunities, then the opponents will score less runs than if we have a keeper who drops chances and misses stumpings which allows opponents to score more runs.

And if there's less runs required to score, than a keeper who can bat is less of a requirement.

Thus, a better keeper is more important than a shit keeper who can bat marginally better.

You can try, but you will never win this argument.

I've already won the argument,Wade will be selected when Haddin goes.
 

undertaker

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Players like Warner and Gayle are successful at Test level because their technique is good enough, Warner is all power and plays his shots with conviction but his technique is good enough.

You get a guy like Maxwell who is an eye player, has little footwork but excels in the shorter format on flat pitches made for the purpose of exciting the fans with big sixes. He failed at Test level, quite miserably too. The same with Finch but not to that extent, I feel he could be successful at Test level if he gets his head over the ball a bit more instead of hitting every ball in the air.

And add to that, in the shorter forms, the boundary ropes brought metres in from the fence. He wouldn't be hitting many 'big' sixes on the old horizontal boundaries at the WACA, old vertical boundaries at Adelaide Oval and MCG back in the '90s without the ropes. Have a look at how long that WACA boundary used to be before the ground configuration in 2002. Easily 100m minimum. I'd love to see Maxwell hit a 'real' six like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQh3qxRcY4

Not so much the introduction of ropes as much as how far in the ropes have been brought in (since they replaced the boundary fence in 2001/02) is what is my biggest beef with modern cricket these days. It's clearly been done so more 4s and 6s are hit, but with bats more powerful than they were back in the '90s and 90+% of pitches around the world barely offering much for the bowlers, that's enough of an advantage for nuffies like Maxwell
 
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WaznTheGreat

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Your entire argument is blatantly stupid.

If we have a keeper who takes all his opportunities, then the opponents will score less runs than if we have a keeper who drops chances and misses stumpings which allows opponents to score more runs.

And if there's less runs required to score, than a keeper who can bat is less of a requirement.

Thus, a better keeper is more important than a shit keeper who can bat marginally better.

You can try, but you will never win this argument.


My entire argument centred around the fact that Wade being selected as a specialist batsmen at number 6 would be a better option than a mediocre all-rounder batting at number 6 like Marsh.


Put Neville as keeper if ya want,don't care,put Wade number 6.pick both the pricks.
 

JJ

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And add to that, in the shorter forms, the boundary ropes brought metres in from the fence. He wouldn't be hitting many 'big' sixes on the old horizontal boundaries at the WACA, old vertical boundaries at Adelaide Oval and MCG back in the '90s without the ropes. Have a look at how long that WACA boundary used to be before the ground configuration in 2002. Easily 100m minimum. I'd love to see Maxwell hit a 'real' six like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLQh3qxRcY4

Not so much the introduction of ropes as much as how far in the ropes have been brought in (since they replaced the boundary fence in 2001/02) is what is my biggest beef with modern cricket these days. It's clearly been done so more 4s and 6s are hit, but with bats more powerful than they were back in the '90s and 90+% of pitches around the world barely offering much for the bowlers, that's enough of an advantage for nuffies like Maxwell

Lance Cairns' 6 6's at the MCG, Viv Richards... and give the big show a bat like their's too...

Vertical boundaries eh, new innovation?
 

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Chris Rogers is a pretty decent player not given a regular shot till late 30's, rather than at his peak. I wish a few more around Aus cricket had his particular skill set but were a good ten years younger. Maybe Silk will prove to be that player. The way Rogers is going though he seems unlikely to last beyond the summer
 

Hutty1986

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Chris Rogers is a pretty decent player not given a regular shot till late 30's, rather than at his peak. I wish a few more around Aus cricket had his particular skill set but were a good ten years younger. Maybe Silk will prove to be that player. The way Rogers is going though he seems unlikely to last beyond the summer

Nic Maddinson has a heap of talent too
 

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