Round 5 v Canberra

[Girds89]

I didn't get involved in the Sorenson second row argument but I want him in the middle not because I think he'd be a bad second rower but because he really compliments the middle rotation and adds inpact in his own way. We have Martin and Hoskings who should be starting second rowers, salmon who does short stints well and garner who needs time under a good coach but has potential.

Never have had an issue with soro playing middle.. agree with most of that.

But he should be spending 50% of time at training between back row and middle.

We lack the depth on the edges this year and there's a very good chance with origin and injuries that he will need to play a lot of time there this year..

With Smith and eiso as very good middles too we have coverage at prop but definitely not as much on the edge.

I think it would just be good to see him play a bit of both. I think he showed more in 60 mins last night than garner has in years. By no means was he brilliant... but there was a few glimpses there of what he can do..

Martin left
Hosking right

Luke
Soro
Spencer
Salmon/Peachy

Bench for me. With soro to spend time on an edge depending on game situation/teams that we are versing.. just need to be flexible with it.

 

[Iamback]

Never have had an issue with soro playing middle.. agree with most of that.

But he should be spending 50% of time at training between back row and middle.

We lack the depth on the edges this year and there's a very good chance with origin and injuries that he will need to play a lot of time there this year..

With Smith and eiso as very good middles too we have coverage at prop but definitely not as much on the edge.

I think it would just be good to see him play a bit of both. I think he showed more in 60 mins last night than garner has in years. By no means was he brilliant... but there was a few glimpses there of what he can do..

Martin left
Hosking right

Luke
Soro
Spencer
Salmon/Peachy

Bench for me. With soro to spend time on an edge depending on game situation/teams that we are versing.. just need to be flexible with it.

We need Luke and Spencer coming on in the 1st half, Sorro playing edge allows that to happen

 

[WestyLife]

For me with have too many like for like players. Martin and Hoskings are the exact same style

As long as Eisenhuth isn't coming in then it allows you to mix up the bench

Martin and Hoskings aren't identical. Martin is more brute force to Hoskings line running and skill. A lot of cross over between them but you get the point I'm sure.

 

[WestyLife]

Never have had an issue with soro playing middle.. agree with most of that.

But he should be spending 50% of time at training between back row and middle.

We lack the depth on the edges this year and there's a very good chance with origin and injuries that he will need to play a lot of time there this year..

With Smith and eiso as very good middles too we have coverage at prop but definitely not as much on the edge.

I think it would just be good to see him play a bit of both. I think he showed more in 60 mins last night than garner has in years. By no means was he brilliant... but there was a few glimpses there of what he can do..

Martin left
Hosking right

Luke
Soro
Spencer
Salmon/Peachy

Bench for me. With soro to spend time on an edge depending on game situation/teams that we are versing.. just need to be flexible with it.

That sounds reasonable. I'm a big believer in having the squad be adaptable especially with how the hia rules are now. If Sorenson is prepared to play middle and edge it's zero downside and all upside.

 

[Panther Pete]

Things I liked about last nights game in no particular order…
- Jaeman scoring right on full time to get us to 50 because f#*k you Ricky!!!!
- Lindsay Smith having a blinder getting thru a mountain of work including saving a try with his effort.
- Moses Leota in full on beast mode!!
- Turuva‘s energy throughout the whole game, looks like he has been playing NRL for 10 years.
- Zac Hoskings looks like he has secured himself a place in first grade.

And things I didn’t like so much…..
- Although he scored a good try it looks to me like Chrichton already has his head at the Dogs. Not only has he been poor this year he has been a liability at times. If Taylan May was to come back into the side now (I know he is gone for the season) it should be Chrichton making way for him.
- And finally I know it’s easy for us to dump on Mitch Kenny but it’s pretty clear he just isn’t NRL standard. IMO unless we come up with a better dummy half we aren’t a chance of winning another comp.

 

[age.s]

Just on Critta, he's had loads of games like that in his career. Ordinary and/or invisible for long periods, but pops up for a massive play with a sublime piece of skill. He's done plenty of things like that in our biggest moments and while I'd like to see more out of him generally, the odds of him cracking a w3/4 finals game open remain pretty high. I wouldn't even consider getting rid of him this year.

 

[WestyLife]

Things I liked about last nights game in no particular order…
- Jaeman scoring right on full time to get us to 50 because f#*k you Ricky!!!!
- Lindsay Smith having a blinder getting thru a mountain of work including saving a try with his effort.
- Moses Leota in full on beast mode!!
- Turuva‘s energy throughout the whole game, looks like he has been playing NRL for 10 years.
- Zac Hoskings looks like he has secured himself a place in first grade.

And things I didn’t like so much…..
- Although he scored a good try it looks to me like Chrichton already has his head at the Dogs. Not only has he been poor this year he has been a liability at times. If Taylan May was to come back into the side now (I know he is gone for the season) it should be Chrichton making way for him.
- And finally I know it’s easy for us to dump on Mitch Kenny but it’s pretty clear he just isn’t NRL standard. IMO unless we come up with a better dummy half we aren’t a chance of winning another comp.

Yeah critta looks done. Heart just isn't on it looking at that intercept and the missed tackle playing for a penalty among other things.

 

[Girds89]

A week in reserves or a rocket.

He's a good player but what he's dished up this year hasn't been up to panthers standard or his.

Maybe yeo needs to have a sit down with him.

We are a better team with him in it no doubt but he needs to be invested and having a crack.. half a dozen runs for 70m when the other backs are busting there guts out and are out on their feet isn't good enough.

To top it all off his defence has been avg this year.

Here's hoping a rocket during the week gets him firing

 

[Hamstring awareness]

A note to all posters. It is Hosking not Hoskings.

 

[The Realist]

I know we just racked up 50 points and I shouldn't be complaining, but...

FMD Critta has been ordinary this year. Tonight he had a bad missed tackle early leading to a line break. Multiple penalties (and sin-binning). An error rucking it out of our own half. And didn't look interesting in doing any work with ball in hand.

Last week was the same. Just 5 runs, 2 penalties against. Add in that terrible intercept attempt against Brisbane that lead to a try.

Really bad signs IMO.

His head hasn't been right since getting back from the World Cup. He has looked distracted, frustrated and unfocused. Pushing silly plays and ill-discipline are the results.

I know we won easily but had he done the same against the Storm at 12-6, that sort of play and attitude would have lost us the match. As you pointed out, it is not an isolated incident either. Every game this year he has done something silly that was just not in his game at all last year.

 

[Iamback]

Martin and Hoskings aren't identical. Martin is more brute force to Hoskings line running and skill. A lot of cross over between them but you get the point I'm sure.

I mean neither are very fast or have footwork etc.

Blade said the plan was to give Luke 2 stints. Given Kenny is going to play middle minutes.

Moving Sorensen allows Spencer and Luke on in the 1st half. It also means Hosking is on at the end instead of Salmon for the last 30 mins

 

[soc123_au]

It was a fun game, especially the 2nd half. I have always loved the Peach and was very happy to see him bag a try, but if he is our big hope for cracking open the better defences it's a worry.

Hosking, what can I say, this bloke looks the goods.

Soro is a middle, but it's good to know he can do a job on the edge if required, I'm against a permanent switch. No point weakining the middle for a tiny gain on the edge (Over Garner) I'd be exploring Marto or Hosking switching to the left. If Sorro needs to fill in there mid game because of injury then we are fine.

WGDP ending the Raiders season scoring the 50 is going to be hard to top for moment of the season. It was poetic.

Looking forward to next week and seeing if we can keep up the momentum against Manly.

My kingdom for a hooker. Kenny aint it.

 

[Goonji]

Ma

Peach can cover hooker, but only if Soni Luke is our starting hooker. Which seems extremely unlikely.

Maybe start the game with Peachy

 

[WestyLife]

A note to all posters. It is Hosking not Hoskings.

My phone keeps changing it. It also changes love to live for some reason LOL.

 

[Bred not Bought]

- And finally I know it’s easy for us to dump on Mitch Kenny but it’s pretty clear he just isn’t NRL standard. IMO unless we come up with a better dummy half we aren’t a chance of winning another comp.

His pass leading up to the Cleary try was woeful.
He had 1 run for 0 metres. We can't have a hooker that doesn't run the ball or pass properly. We can get away with it against the deadbeats but not the top sides.

 

[Chins get the wins]

His pass leading up to the Cleary try was woeful.
He had 1 run for 0 metres. We can't have a hooker that doesn't run the ball or pass properly. We can get away with it against the deadbeats but not the top sides.

Straight facts. Anyone who can't see this doesn't know the game

 

[Bred not Bought]

Martin can play on the left he’s filled in there for kiks plenty of times I’d be backing him to figure it out pretty quickly. Hosking at this stage has to be in the side as Ennis said last night he had really shut the door on the other options.

His 2nd game as a starter was on the left in 2019. He had a great game and scored a try on the left. I wouldn't be moving Hosking.

Match Highlights: Panthers v Sea Eagles

Penrith host Manly during round 12 of the 2019 NRL Telstra Premiership

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[Chins get the wins]

Martin is really a middle. Nothing he does well is backrow play. He's just an animal who loves contact

 

[GongPanther]

I know we just racked up 50 points and I shouldn't be complaining, but...

FMD Critta has been ordinary this year. Tonight he had a bad missed tackle early leading to a line break. Multiple penalties (and sin-binning). An error rucking it out of our own half. And didn't look interesting in doing any work with ball in hand.

Last week was the same. Just 5 runs, 2 penalties against. Add in that terrible intercept attempt against Brisbane that lead to a try.

Really bad signs IMO.

He has won football Lotto, and he can't get his mind off the big moola. I'm sure he'll snap out of it sooner than later.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

I was with you until you said average defence. He had a bad read in the first game going for the hero intercept (which none of us complained about in October 21) but outside of that his defence has been outstanding. Against the Rabbits in particular he was very strong against a very good left edge attack.